May 12, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, vikas83 said: This. A million times this. They also didn't want people hoarding masks when healthcare workers couldn't get them at the beginning. I will say that, at this point, the CDC in particular is losing credibility by being way too cautious. No reason for people to wear masks outside, based on what we know at this point. And vaccinated folks should really be pretty much free. The day I don't have a drawer in our china cabinet dedicated to masks for a family of four will be a glorious day. Can't wait to put them in storage. Baseball and softball season have been no masks for the kids. Most parents haven't been wearing them either. Bleachers are closed so everybody is distanced in their folding chairs.
May 12, 20215 yr The CDC has consistently understated the impact of vaccines and done an all-around terrible job of dangling the carrot over the past few months.
May 12, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: The CDC has consistently understated the impact of vaccines and done an all-around terrible job of dangling the carrot over the past few months. Its been a constant stream of mix messaging. Take the vaccine it works! But you still have to wear masks and avoid indoor gatherings even if your vaccinated because reasons! The real reason is that there isn't enough data to know whether a vaccinated person can be an a symptomatic spreader. They think its still possible that someone could be vaccinated, contract covid, spread covid, then be covid free a few weeks later never knowing they had it at all because the vaccine fought it off. How likely such a scenario it, they don't know.
May 12, 20215 yr Just now, Gannan said: Its been a constant stream of mix messaging. Take the vaccine it works! But you still have to wear masks and avoid indoor gatherings even if your vaccinated because reasons! The real reason is that there isn't enough data to know whether a vaccinated person can be an a symptomatic spreader. They think its still possible that someone could be vaccinated, contract covid, spread covid, then be covid free a few weeks later never knowing they had it at all because the vaccine fought it off. How likely such a scenario it, they don't know. they're not politicians. they're scientists and researchers paid to game out all possibilities and who do their level best not to bias towards what they may intuitively think is right, because that can confound good research. that approach works well when you're conducting research. but "people" need firmer answers from their leadership, so qualified answers are not going to play well with the public. this is a case where putting out firm guidance as informed as possible with a small blanket qualification that "this is still developing science, and while this is our best guidance based on current understanding this may change as we learn more" would have been much better.
May 12, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said: Got 2nd shot and asked for an empty vial, but he said they have to destroy them. Why?
May 12, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, mikemack8 said: Why? So I can put bacteriostatic water in it and inject my anti vax Dad with it. Really just to have one as a dumb collector item.
May 12, 20215 yr Rare fungal infections that destroy eyeballs and kill are on the rise in India People with diabetes are particularly vulnerable to the aggressive fungus. https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/05/rare-flesh-eating-black-fungus-rides-covids-coattails-in-india/ No. An eyeball eating fungus. No. Hell no!!!
May 12, 20215 yr 17 minutes ago, Gannan said: Its been a constant stream of mix messaging. Take the vaccine it works! But you still have to wear masks and avoid indoor gatherings even if your vaccinated because reasons! The real reason is that there isn't enough data to know whether a vaccinated person can be an a symptomatic spreader. They think its still possible that someone could be vaccinated, contract covid, spread covid, then be covid free a few weeks later never knowing they had it at all because the vaccine fought it off. How likely such a scenario it, they don't know. We have a rough idea, and it's highly unlikely. But they buried the lede and instead erred on the side of thinking Americans can read between the lines (if they can read at all.) Spoiler alert: they can't.
May 12, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Filed under "Vaccines Aren't That Effective" Cue the response, "bUt 99.75 iZn'T 100!!!1!" The Cleveland Clinic on Tuesday released a study showing that 99.75% of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 between Jan. 1 and April 13 were not fully vaccinated, according to data provided to Axios https://www.axios.com/study-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-unvaccinated-7ed34f63-fd1d-437c-b4b7-0c1dd3600a15.html 3 New york yankees that were fully vaccinated now have covid
May 12, 20215 yr We've had the same issues here as well. Politicians will say how important it is to get vaccinated so we can end the pandemic and return to a normal way of life, and then the next day the same politicians will preach about how we couldn't possibly lift restrictions any time soon and that vaccinated people still need to wear masks/distance/the whole 9 yards. Then they wonder why there's vaccine hesitancy.
May 12, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: 3 New york yankees that were fully vaccinated now have covid
May 12, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: 3 New york yankees that were fully vaccinated now have covid I’d be interested to know the timing of their vaccinations. I work with someone who was in line for their second shot when he got the email that he was positive from a test he took 3 days prior out of caution. Had he not gotten that email and stepped out of the line, he would have gotten his second shot and been "fully vaccinated” only to test positive a few days later and considered a breakthrough case. The timing is important here because we know that one shot only gives a certain level of protection, and even after the second shot you’re still a couple weeks away from the highest level of protection. They could have picked it up a couple days after their second dose when their protection levels were not 95%.
May 12, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Dawkins 20 said: We've had the same issues here as well. Politicians will say how important it is to get vaccinated so we can end the pandemic and return to a normal way of life, and then the next day the same politicians will preach about how we couldn't possibly lift restrictions any time soon and that vaccinated people still need to wear masks/distance/the whole 9 yards. Then they wonder why there's vaccine hesitancy. Need to hand out more stimmys based on being vaccinated. Like a week paid vacation with hookers and blow.
May 12, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, DBW said: I’d be interested to know the timing of their vaccinations. I work with someone who was in line for their second shot when he got the email that he was positive from a test he took 3 days prior out of caution. Had he not gotten that email and stepped out of the line, he would have gotten his second shot and been "fully vaccinated” only to test positive a few days later and considered a breakthrough case. The timing is important here because we know that one shot only gives a certain level of protection, and even after the second shot you’re still a couple weeks away from the highest level of protection. They could have picked it up a couple days after their second dose when their protection levels were not 95%. https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/05/yankees-covid-scare-everything-we-know-so-far-including-breakthrough-cases.html Which vaccine did they get? Staff from Montefiore Medical Center administered the one-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine to players, staff and coaches at Yankee Stadium on April 7. However, it’s possible the Yankees’ confirmed positives weren’t vaccinated that day and that they received different brand shots.
May 12, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, rambo said: Need to hand out more stimmys based on being vaccinated. Like a week paid vacation with hookers and blow. All joking aside, they 100% should've done this for the last stimulus.
May 12, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: All joking aside, they 100% should've done this for the last stimulus. Vax wasn't fully available to the public in most states at that point.
May 12, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, rambo said: Vax wasn't fully available to the public in most states at that point. Then postpone a portion of the stimulus amount, payable upon confirmation of vaccination. Don't want da gooberment tracking muh data in a rejustree? Fine, then no gooberment handout subsidized by the rest of us. Problem solved.
May 12, 20215 yr Sign of things to come https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210512003352320?section=national/national
May 12, 20215 yr 16 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: https://www.nj.com/yankees/2021/05/yankees-covid-scare-everything-we-know-so-far-including-breakthrough-cases.html Which vaccine did they get? Staff from Montefiore Medical Center administered the one-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine to players, staff and coaches at Yankee Stadium on April 7. However, it’s possible the Yankees’ confirmed positives weren’t vaccinated that day and that they received different brand shots. Well then - we know J&J has been a joke anyway so I’m not surprised if they had breakthroughs. But as it states they could have had other brands and the timing is unknown at this point.
May 12, 20215 yr https://www.npr.org/2021/05/11/995795457/4th-wave-of-covid-19-hospitalizations-hits-washington-state Washington is firmly in the top half of states for how many people are fully vaccinated and for its rate of new vaccinations. More than half of adults in the state have had at least one dose, and in the Seattle metro area that number rises to about 70%.
May 12, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Sign of things to come https://m-en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20210512003352320?section=national/national Definitely not clicking that link
May 12, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, DBW said: Definitely not clicking that link South Korea's daily new coronavirus cases rose back above 600 on Wednesday, with health authorities remaining on alert over a potential spike amid spreading variant cases. The country reported 635 more COVID-19 cases, including 613 local infections, raising the total caseload to 128,918, the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency (KDCA) said. Wednesday's figure jumped from 511 cases Tuesday, 463 Monday and 564 Sunday though it is lower than the 701 Saturday. The daily caseload usually spikes after weekends as more people get tested.
May 12, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, DBW said: Well then - we know J&J has been a joke anyway so I’m not surprised if they had breakthroughs. But as it states they could have had other brands and the timing is unknown at this point. well if it is a joke we have a big problem because millions have gotten that one, That is what I am getting
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