2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

yup. I figure it won't be until school is back in session that you see a return to the workforce for many. there are a lot of moms that work in the restaurant service industry, and a lot of those moms are deciding they can hold off until their kids are back to school.

Bartenders are making bank if there is no one to share tips with.  I always tip 20% unless the service is really crappy then maybe 15%.  Heck I tipped over 20 for a lot of them just because they're busting their ass so hard they deserve it.

Just now, Paul852 said:

Oh I know. I wanted to drawl it out into a joke how we found a secret to Paco where knocking on his foot required Paco to give you an hour of his time.

Thanks killjoy.

my bad. I do not get jokes this early in the morning. 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Or paco just uses his giant foot in place of a door to further confuse these biden appointed vaccine missionaries

my first thought was Paco's foot in someone's a$$ while he listened to whatever they were selling. figured it was a kink.

6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

They’re going to be wearing spacesuits and just barge into your house like that scene towards the end of E.T.

Were those govt folk really that bad?  All they did was give him free healthcare that he didn’t ask for

1 minute ago, rambo said:

Bartenders are making bank if there is no one to share tips with.  I always tip 20% unless the service is really crappy then maybe 15%.  Heck I tipped over 20 for a lot of them just because they're busting their ass so hard they deserve it.

tip suggestions seem to be going up now too. 20% seems like the baseline. my default was same as you, almost always tipped 20% unless the service was pretty terrible. (plus it's easy to calculate 20% lol)

throughout the pandemic I went higher, even tipping on takeout, because these guys were dying. but I don't want to keep tipping like 30% lol

2 minutes ago, paco said:

Were those govt folk really that bad?  All they did was give him free healthcare that he didn’t ask for

E.T. said "oooouch"

7 minutes ago, paco said:

Were those govt folk really that bad?  All they did was give him free healthcare that he didn’t ask for

Of course he got free healthcare. He was an illegal alien.

I wonder if Maher has any regrets giving this moron a far bigger platform than he ever deserved:

 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I wonder if Maher has any regrets giving this moron a far bigger platform than he ever deserved:

 

Oh come on. JFC these people.

3 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Oh come on. JFC these people.

My gut reaction when I first watched them on Maher was that they were a couple of anti-vax morons. I backed off some of that after rewatching the interview because I thought maybe I was rushing to judgement and being too harsh. Turns out I should've stayed with my hunch. Shame on Bill for not properly vetting them.

4 hours ago, Paul852 said:

Of course he got free healthcare. He was an illegal alien.

And you know it was socialized health care paid by taxpayers because it nearly killed him

 

 

2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

yup. I figure it won't be until school is back in session that you see a return to the workforce for many. there are a lot of moms that work in the restaurant service industry, and a lot of those moms are deciding they can hold off until their kids are back to school.

Maybe some jobs will come back but, grocery retail will continue to struggle. People are sick and tired of being run into the ground and still have to kiss the ass of the customers whole they continue to treat everyone like sheet. It's not worth the stress and the way you are treated in grocery retail anymore. 

 

 

51 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Maybe some jobs will come back but, grocery retail will continue to struggle. People are sick and tired of being run into the ground and still have to kiss the ass of the customers whole they continue to treat everyone like sheet. It's not worth the stress and the way you are treated in grocery retail anymore. 

 

The policies surrounding what workers have to put up with from customers needs to change. 

6 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

The policies surrounding what workers have to put up with from customers needs to change. 

Agreed, and where I work it's a small chain and corporate never backs us up when we get absolutely trashed by customers. Grocery retail just doenst pay enough to deal with it anymore. 

8 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

The policies surrounding what workers have to put up with from customers needs to change. 

I agree. I hate the "Customer is always right” concept. And I say that as a customer. I’ve seen store workers get verbal abuse that was clearly over the line. 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Agreed, and where I work it's a small chain and corporate never backs us up when we get absolutely trashed by customers. Grocery retail just doenst pay enough to deal with it anymore. 

I’ll come to your store one day and follow you around all day holding a sign saying:

Bwestbrook36 is the man!!

3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I wonder if Maher has any regrets giving this moron a far bigger platform than he ever deserved:

 

I mean, I think the logic of what he's saying is basically true: If a variant breaks through, natural selection will allow that variant to become more widespread and further mutate into something that is increasingly virulent. However, the implied conclusion that "these vaccines are doing more harm than good" is fundamentally moronic.

8 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I’ll come to your store one day and follow you around all day holding a sign saying:

Bwestbrook36 is the man!!

🥰🥰 You will always have my heart joe!! Lol 

42 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

I mean, I think the logic of what he's saying is basically true: If a variant breaks through, natural selection will allow that variant to become more widespread and further mutate into something that is increasingly virulent. However, the implied conclusion that "these vaccines are doing more harm than good" is fundamentally moronic.

He completely ignores that the current dominant variants emerged prior to vaccination campaigns getting under way and that the key to stopping the emergence of new more dangerous variants is to reduce community spread, which vaccines are, of course, by far the best and most efficient way of doing so. He's also previously said that taking these vaccines is like playing Russian Roulette. 

Insane crackpot pot who needs to be de-platformed asap.

22 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He completely ignores that the current dominant variants emerged prior to vaccination campaigns getting under way and that the key to stopping the emergence of new more dangerous variants is to reduce community spread, which vaccines are, of course, by far the best and most efficient way of doing so. He's also previously said that taking these vaccines is like playing Russian Roulette. 

Insane crackpot pot who needs to be de-platformed asap.

Agreed. I'm just saying that I think it's ok to recognize that there are some complicating factors here and that breakthrough cases do raise additional obstacles, but the sheer fact that this guy chose Tucker f***ing Carlson to disseminate this message shows exactly where his affinities lie...

20 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Agreed. I'm just saying that I think it's ok to recognize that there are some complicating factors here and that breakthrough cases do raise additional obstacles, but the sheer fact that this guy chose Tucker f***ing Carlson to disseminate this message shows exactly where his affinities lie...

Not sure what is meant by a complicating factor in this context. Delta would be running rampant regardless of whether vaccines existed or not. His notion that vaccines are the reason why it's becoming more widespread is blatantly false. Aside from the obvious origin of the variant being a country where the percentage of fully vaccinated is still at only 5%, even if we look at the data domestically, the correlation between states where delta is now predominant and states with lagging vaccination rates, paints a pretty clear picture of whether vaccines are actually contributing to the spread.

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Not sure what is meant by a complicating factor in this context. Delta would be running rampant regardless of whether vaccines existed or not. His notion that vaccines are the reason why it's becoming more widespread is blatantly false. Aside from the obvious origin of the variant being a country where the percentage of fully vaccinated is still at only 5%, even if we look at the data domestically, the correlation between states where delta is now predominant and states with lagging vaccination rates paints a pretty clear picture of whether vaccines are actually contributing to the spread.

 

I took it to mean that if a variant, really any variant, but in this case Delta, is able to infect and sicken vaccinated people, then that particular kind of variant will continue to spread through vaccinated populations. Obviously, having a large population of unvaccinated people makes this worse, but as the virus is reproduced in vaccinated people, presumably with some level of mutation that makes it highly infective, you are going to get a greater prevalence of variants that can effectively break through. Essentially, you have a virus that is becoming increasingly adapted to infecting vaccinated populations, thereby putting vaccinated people at higher risk for contracting COVID. It seems like basic evolutionary biology to me.

27 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

I took it to mean that if a variant, really any variant, but in this case Delta, is able to infect and sicken vaccinated people, then that particular kind of variant will continue to spread through vaccinated people. As the virus is reproduced in vaccinated people, presumably with some level of mutation that makes it highly infective, you are going to get a greater prevalence of variants that can effectively break through. Essentially, you have a virus that is becoming increasingly adapted to infecting vaccinated populations, thereby putting vaccinated people at higher risk for contracting COVID. It seems like basic evolutionary biology to me.

This is where it falls apart. Selective pressure for infectivity increases with each transmission from one host to another regardless of whether either host is vaccinated. And transmission rates among the unvaccinated populations absolutely dwarf those of vaccinated populations. That delta can be spread, albeit seldomly, from one vaccinated person to another does not in and of itself increase the likelihood of giving rise to a mutation associated with higher infectivity or virulence. 

What is true, is that delta, gamma, or any future variant that can evade vaccine induced immunity, will have a better chance of becoming predominant in populations with very high rates of vaccination (though mostly among the unvaccinated.) But this does not mean the chances are any higher for its evolution to select for more contagious variants, because the number of aggregate transmissions in those populations is still an order of magnitude lower than those very same variants being spread in unvaccinated populations.