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The 2020 Corona Thread

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2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

C'mon dude.  People get sick from all sorts of things.  He could easily have gotten a staph infection somehow and then contracted a mild case of COVID due to his need to go to medical facilities.  The 1st article was lazy.  Clarification on this topic is quite useful these days given all of the mis information all around us.

 

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Secondary Infection

A secondary infection means that you get an infection unrelated to the first problem you had. In this case, it means someone with COVID-19 gets infected with something else.

A review of several studies done so far on hospitalized COVID-19 patients found that secondary infection is a possible -- but not common -- complication. Sometimes, a person fighting off, ­or recovering from, a virus gets infected by bacteria. Strep and staph are common culprits. This can be serious enough to raise the risk of death.

 

Honestly, who knows what came first.

 
 
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Just now, Paul852 said:

 

Honestly, who knows what came first.

 

 

Works for me.  No doubt COVID is often the initial problem causing other issues that lead to death.  At the same time there are plenty of other scenarios whereby a person dies from another cause while they have COVID at the same time.  Those are two pretty different situations.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Is this a self portrait you drew on the morning of November 4th? 

I don't miss the Orange Man despite what your perception of me might be.  

5 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

 

Honestly, who knows what came first.

 

 

Had to be the egg, right?

About 20-40% of people (including children) are carriers of staph on their skin without an active infection. This is usually not a problem until there's a major breach in the epidermis and/or the immune system becomes weakened. 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

About 20-40% of people (including children) are carriers of staph on their skin without an active infection. This is usually not a problem until there's a major breach in the epidermis or the immune system becomes weakened. 

Yeah, I was assuming in this child's case it was probably a little more than a boil. 

yeah, i will definitely click on that link .... 

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

yeah, i will definitely click on that link .... 

Posted the main chart.  Its an apple news story, but goes to Bloomberg

1 minute ago, rambo said:

Yeah, I was assuming in this child's case it was probably a little more than a boil. 

Like Paul said, staph is commonly seen as a secondary infection. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Like Paul said, staph is commonly seen as a secondary infection. 

"look man, unless you have a picture of COVID killing him we'll just never know." -Basically Every COVID Denier.

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

"look man, unless you have a picture of COVID killing him we'll just never know." -Basically Every COVID Denier.

I heard on Facebook that people have been dying in car crashes and then they test them for covid, and if it comes back positive, then they list it as a covid death. You just can't trust these numbers, man.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

I heard on Facebook that people have been dying in car crashes and then they test them for covid, and if it comes back positive, then they list it as a covid death. You just can't trust these numbers, man.

I heard they died of blunt force trauma, not the car crash. Why do you hate cars? Because you're for the green new deal? I KNEW YOU HATED CAPITALISM

Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

I heard they died of blunt force trauma, not the car crash. Why do you hate cars? Because you're for the green new deal? I KNEW YOU HATED CAPITALISM

I know, right? We should totally ban cars and water.

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

"look man, unless you have a picture of COVID killing him we'll just never know." -Basically Every COVID Denier.

Do we have any in here?  EagleVA flat earth comes to mind.  Anyone else?

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Do we have any in here?  EagleVA flat earth comes to mind.  Anyone else?

Denier is probably a strong word. There's plenty here who think it's "overstated" and believe most who died "with Covid" would have died anyway.

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Do we have any in here?  EagleVA flat earth comes to mind.  Anyone else?

You and Omega are definitely on it.

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

You and Omega are definitely on it.

I was one of the first ones in here to take it seriously, you dope.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

I was one of the first ones in here to take it seriously, you dope.

Sure. Now you’re in here asking people how to use Google.

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Denier is probably a strong word. There's plenty here who think it's "overstated" and believe most who died "with Covid" would have died anyway.

Yeah, that's fair and you'd expect quite a range of nuanced thought given the novelty of the disease and the range of varying statistics and measurement strategies.  With one or two exceptions I'd think everyone in here recognizes the severity of the situation in any case though we will no doubt debate the details.

4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Sure. Now you’re in here asking people how to use Google.

And telling people to wear bubbles.

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Sure. Now you’re in here asking people how to use Google.

fyp

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

And telling people to wear bubbles.

That was soooo yesterday

Dr Philly has never denied the effectiveness of masks, he was just "asking questions."

Are we really back to this discussion from a year ago ??  If you have a heart attack while driving, and die in a car accident, sure, the blunt force trauma is listed as your cause of death, but the heart attack is what killed you.  Same with Covid in conjunction with other conditions.

Secondary bacterial infections in the setting of an bad viral illness are relatively common. Viruses can severely reduce your body's innate immune response and lead to lung, kidney, blood, skin, brain bacterial infections etc, so it's a pretty common complication in the ICU setting. 

Now sitting around the hospital surrounded by sick people it's also pretty common to catch a nosocomial virus.  But given that this kid caught COVID at home that seems unlikely in this case. 

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