6 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I hope getting the J&J was not a mistake

Not getting vaccinated at all is the mistake. 99%+ of the people dying in the hospital right now are unvaccinated. That speaks volumes for all of the vaccines.

15 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Not getting vaccinated at all is the mistake. 99%+ of the people dying in the hospital right now are unvaccinated. That speaks volumes for all of the vaccines.

True and really that is the bottom line, from now until and long after we are all gone this virus in some form will be infecting people but as long is it not deadly for vaccinated then that is fine and it will have to be.

For maximum irony, the whiny little turdflakes complaining about mask wearing, are the ones dragging this pandemic out into year 2.

58 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I hope getting the J&J was not a mistake

With all the non-vaccinated, whatever their reasons, we’ll all need boosters at some time.

3 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

With all the non-vaccinated, whatever their reasons, we’ll all need boosters at some time.

Not a big deal, walk into CVS or wherever, get another shot, in the end it will be just another flu shot the smart people

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

 

 

 

This right here says it all.....

"I try to be very non-judgmental when I'm getting a new COVID patient that's unvaccinated, but I really just started asking them, 'Why haven't you gotten the vaccine?' And I'll just ask it point blank, in the least judgmental way possible," Cobia said. "And most of them, they're very honest, they give me answers. 'I talked to this person, I saw this thing on Facebook, I got this email, I saw this on the news,' you know, these are all the reasons that I didn't get vaccinated. And the one question that I always ask them is, did you make an appointment with your primary care doctor and ask them for their opinion on whether or not you should receive the vaccine? And so far, nobody has answered yes to that question."

You'd think rightees would be hammering the push for vaccination since the Delta Variant will start thinning out the herd of the base.

3 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said:

You'd think rightees would be hammering the push for vaccination since the Delta Variant will start thinning out the herd of the base.

Some Like Hannity are.

4 minutes ago, barho said:

This right here says it all.....

"I try to be very non-judgmental when I'm getting a new COVID patient that's unvaccinated, but I really just started asking them, 'Why haven't you gotten the vaccine?' And I'll just ask it point blank, in the least judgmental way possible," Cobia said. "And most of them, they're very honest, they give me answers. 'I talked to this person, I saw this thing on Facebook, I got this email, I saw this on the news,' you know, these are all the reasons that I didn't get vaccinated. And the one question that I always ask them is, did you make an appointment with your primary care doctor and ask them for their opinion on whether or not you should receive the vaccine? And so far, nobody has answered yes to that question."

Sorry but if you get medical advice from Facebook you deserve to die, good riddance, if that makes me a bad person ok

4 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Some Like Hannity are.

Nah. That was done because Rupert Murdoch is losing money from the stock market falling due to Delta.

13 minutes ago, barho said:

This right here says it all.....

"I try to be very non-judgmental when I'm getting a new COVID patient that's unvaccinated, but I really just started asking them, 'Why haven't you gotten the vaccine?' And I'll just ask it point blank, in the least judgmental way possible," Cobia said. "And most of them, they're very honest, they give me answers. 'I talked to this person, I saw this thing on Facebook, I got this email, I saw this on the news,' you know, these are all the reasons that I didn't get vaccinated. And the one question that I always ask them is, did you make an appointment with your primary care doctor and ask them for their opinion on whether or not you should receive the vaccine? And so far, nobody has answered yes to that question."

These people do not look for information, other than information that confirms what they already know for a fact.

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I hope getting the J&J was not a mistake

It's still better than not being vaccinated at all.  I think you may find yourself getting Pfizer or Moderna some day, though.

3 minutes ago, toolg said:

It's still better than not being vaccinated at all.  I think you may find yourself getting Pfizer or Moderna some day, though.

I think I will do my best to still avoid people.

I know much is being made about so called breakthrough cases but isn't it true that it takes time for the antibodies to work against the virus and during that time if you are tested you can still test positive so really everyone that is vaccinated could be technically a breakthrough case?

 

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Texas hospital reports its 1st case of lambda COVID-19 variant

HOUSTON -- A major Texas hospital system has reported its first case of the lambda COVID-19 variant, as the state reels from the rampant delta variant.

Houston Methodist Hospital, which operates eight hospitals in its network, said the first lambda case was confirmed Monday.

The lambda variant was first detected in Peru in December 2020, according to the World Health Organization and makes up 81% of COVID-19 cases sequenced in the country since April 2021, according to a June WHO report. Currently, WHO designates lambda as a "variant of interest."

Houston Methodist had a little over 100 COVID-19 patients across the hospital system last week. That number rose to 185 Monday, with a majority of those infected being unvaccinated, according to a statement released by the hospital Monday.

Among those infections, about 85% have been diagnosed with the delta variant, hospital officials said.

"We're seeing an alarming spike in the number of COVID-19 cases across the Houston area, with the steepest increase happening over the weekend," Houston Methodist said. "The increased hospitalizations add stress to many of our hospitals that are nearing capacity."

Hospital president and CEO Dr. Marc Boom stressed it is "imperative" that the community "get vaccinated and decrease virus spread."

Despite the report of the lambda variant, experts at Houston Methodist say delta is still the primary concern in the U.S.

"The lambda is the dominant variant in Peru and Peru has had a very difficult time with COVID-19. It shares mutations in common with the alpha variants, the beta, the gamma, which is the dominant variant in Brazil," Dr. Wesley Long, medical director of Diagnostic Microbiology at Houston Methodist, told ABC News.

 

"I don't think there's sufficient evidence at this point that we should be more concerned about lambda than delta, I still think delta is the primary concern for us. There's a lot more evidence that we have that delta is much more contagious, the viral loads are much higher," he added.

The lambda variant "has been associated with substantive rates of community transmission in multiple countries, with rising prevalence over time concurrent with increased COVID-19 incidence," the WHO said in its June report. In June, the variant was detected in 29 countries.

The delta variant, which was first detected in India in December, now accounts for about 83% of all sequenced COVID-19 cases in the United States, Center for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said during a Senate hearing Tuesday. The WHO designates delta as a "variant of concern."

Long noted that Houston Methodist has seen its positivity rate increase and hospitalizations rise, but the situation on the ground is still "far below" the winter peak.

"[Infections are] on the increase. How many more cases are we going to get?" Long said. "We're going to need more folks to get vaccinated and folks who aren't vaccinated in particular to practice all the safe practices that we learned through the pandemic to help slow the spread of COVID. All those are critically important to keep this delta wave under control."

At the moment, 51% of Texas' state population aged 12 and up is fully vaccinated, according to state data.

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Lemme do my best @Joe Shades 73 impression.

Ahem,

"DOOM!!!"

That is all.

3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

 

Lemme do my best @Joe Shades 73 impression.

Ahem,

"DOOM!!!"

That is all.

Sure big time doom for the unvaxxed

3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

 

Lemme do my best @Joe Shades 73 impression.

Ahem,

"DOOM!!!"

That is all.

Guess I'll just keep working out and not being fat. That seems to be the safest bet at this point.

 

 

Really and which Americans are making such Demands? 

12 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Guess I'll just keep working out and not being fat. That seems to be the safest bet at this point

This is one of the reasons the real full lockdowns in places like France, Spain, and the UK were troublesome.  People weren't even allowed out of the house at all other than to buy food.

32 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I know much is being made about so called breakthrough cases but isn't it true that it takes time for the antibodies to work against the virus and during that time if you are tested you can still test positive so really everyone that is vaccinated could be technically a breakthrough case?

With the original strain, vaccines provided a significant level of sterilizing immunity. Meaning your total immune response (not just antibodies) would stop viral replication in its tracks and you would be highly unlikely to test positive if sampled. With delta, there still is sterilizing immunity in many cases, but not as much/often. Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of real world data on it though, so at best we can only speculate as to the mechanisms and causes of breakthrough infections based on limited data/studies.

I thought this was an informative read about our misinformed peers.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/07/20/1016912079/the-life-cycle-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-lie

52 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I know much is being made about so called breakthrough cases but isn't it true that it takes time for the antibodies to work against the virus and during that time if you are tested you can still test positive so really everyone that is vaccinated could be technically a breakthrough case?

Also, and not to play too much into the hands of your anxiety, but if (and it's a big IF due to the lack of data thus far) this delta variant is truly 2.5x more transmissible than the original virus, we're now looking at a herd immunity threshold of about 85-90% instead of 65-70%.

No, this doesn't mean we are doomed, but it does mean the timeline of this bug being totally squashed does get pushed out a bit further. 

The more people who catch it and spread it, the more variants, the longer it drags on.

 

GO TALK TO YOUR F****ING DOCTORS, YOU DIP STICKS.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Also, and not to play too much into the hands of your anxiety, but if (and it's a big IF due to the lack of data thus far) this delta variant is truly 2.5x more transmissible than the original virus, we're now looking at a herd immunity threshold of about 85-90% instead of 65-70%.

No, this doesn't mean we are doomed, but it does mean the timeline of this bug being totally squashed does get pushed out a bit further. 

That is impossible unless you are counting previously infected