July 21, 20214 yr 32 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: I know much is being made about so called breakthrough cases but isn't it true that it takes time for the antibodies to work against the virus and during that time if you are tested you can still test positive so really everyone that is vaccinated could be technically a breakthrough case? With the original strain, vaccines provided a significant level of sterilizing immunity. Meaning your total immune response (not just antibodies) would stop viral replication in its tracks and you would be highly unlikely to test positive if sampled. With delta, there still is sterilizing immunity in many cases, but not as much/often. Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of real world data on it though, so at best we can only speculate as to the mechanisms and causes of breakthrough infections based on limited data/studies.
July 21, 20214 yr I thought this was an informative read about our misinformed peers. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/07/20/1016912079/the-life-cycle-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-lie
July 21, 20214 yr 52 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: I know much is being made about so called breakthrough cases but isn't it true that it takes time for the antibodies to work against the virus and during that time if you are tested you can still test positive so really everyone that is vaccinated could be technically a breakthrough case? Also, and not to play too much into the hands of your anxiety, but if (and it's a big IF due to the lack of data thus far) this delta variant is truly 2.5x more transmissible than the original virus, we're now looking at a herd immunity threshold of about 85-90% instead of 65-70%. No, this doesn't mean we are doomed, but it does mean the timeline of this bug being totally squashed does get pushed out a bit further.
July 21, 20214 yr The more people who catch it and spread it, the more variants, the longer it drags on. GO TALK TO YOUR F****ING DOCTORS, YOU DIP STICKS.
July 21, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Also, and not to play too much into the hands of your anxiety, but if (and it's a big IF due to the lack of data thus far) this delta variant is truly 2.5x more transmissible than the original virus, we're now looking at a herd immunity threshold of about 85-90% instead of 65-70%. No, this doesn't mean we are doomed, but it does mean the timeline of this bug being totally squashed does get pushed out a bit further. That is impossible unless you are counting previously infected
July 21, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: That is impossible unless you are counting previously infected Immunity conferred either by vaccination or infection. It does not necessarily mean 90% of people would need to be vaccinated since some portion of the unvaccinated would have some level of natural immunity. And to be clear, it's going to be very regional and seasonal as we've seen before. Lots of ebs and flows throughout the year and the country.
July 21, 20214 yr What Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't know about HIPAA is, well, a lot https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-hipaa/index.html She really is a clueless nitwit.
July 21, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Immunity conferred either by vaccination or infection. It does not necessarily mean 90% of people would need to be vaccinated since some portion of the unvaccinated would have some level of natural immunity. And to be clear, it's going to be very regional and seasonal as we've seen before. Lots of ebs and flows throughout the year and the country. I would assume our areas are pretty safe but over 600 new cases here today
July 21, 20214 yr Just now, Toastrel said: What Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't know about HIPAA is, well, a lot https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/21/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-hipaa/index.html She really is a clueless nitwit. What an idiot but more may be coming next year and she is going to be on important committees in a few years
July 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: What an idiot but more may be coming next year and she is going to be on important committees in a few years She won't be re-elected.
July 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: She won't be re-elected. Why not? her district must be crazy if they elected her
July 21, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: This is one of the reasons the real full lockdowns in places like France, Spain, and the UK were troublesome. People weren't even allowed out of the house at all other than to buy food. Yeah, fortunately I have a gym in my house. I would go crazy if I couldn't get that workout in.
July 21, 20214 yr Indonesian Covid-positive man disguises himself as wife on Citilink flight in order to fly https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/indonesia-citilink-niqab-man-covid-intl-hnk/index.html Caught in mid-flight when he came out of the bathroom in men's clothing. Ignorant POS. I did not know there were Trump supporters in Indonesia.
July 21, 20214 yr On 1/28/2021 at 10:58 PM, EaglesRocker97 said: I am starting to think that COVID is most likely just going to become an endemic disease.
July 21, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Delta definitely increased the chances of this, at least in the interim.
July 21, 20214 yr The FDA may not fully approve a COVID-19 vaccine until January. Here’s why https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-fda-may-not-fully-approve-a-covid-19-vaccine-until-january-heres-why-11626877261 I like articles that give insight into such processes.
July 21, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, downundermike said: Way to take a quote, skip parts of it so it is totally out of context. uhhhh, its exactly what you quoted. Zero skipping around Quote Biden, in response to a last-minute question from Fox News reporter Peter Doocy, said President Donald Trump's repeated misstatements and dismissal of the coronavirus have eroded American confidence in government, which could spell trouble for a vaccine rollout. "Why do we think, God willing, when we get a vaccine — that is good, works — why do we think the public is gonna line up to be willing to take the injection?" Biden asked. "We've lost so much confidence, the American people, in what's said [by the Trump administration]." "This president has said so many things that are untrue, that are just wrong."
July 21, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, paco said: uhhhh, its exactly what you quoted. Zero skipping around The rest of the quote "We've lost so much confidence, the American people, in what's said [by the Trump administration]." "This president has said so many things that are untrue, that are just wrong."
July 21, 20214 yr Trump is largely to blame for people not getting the vaccine. Through his pushing of snake oil drugs, attacking doctors/scientists and downplaying of COVID from the beginning he owns a good chunk of the unvaccinated population. All you need to do is take a look at where the surges are happening and listen to people on their death bed: "I thought it was a hoax". To point the finger at anyone else through yet another stupid cartoon is asinine.
July 21, 20214 yr Sad that it is to late. They should have all been on board and promoting the vaccine from the get go. 8 minutes ago, NOTW said: @Kz! there it is, go get vaccinated, Ron DeSantis said so.
July 21, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, NOTW said: Getting worried about all those voters you're losing, eh buddy?
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