3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Well, like I said, it's going to be more subjective this time around. The FDA isn't in the business of determining need for anything that's deemed subjective. Whether one person is willing to take a drug to ward off a cold, or someone else is only willing to take drugs that prevent more severe systemic disease is not something they take into consideration. They can only say a drug is proven to be effective and safe, and that's as far as they go. It's up to the rest of the chain (federal agencies like the ACIP/CDC, state and local departments of health, and even your primary doctor) to inform you of your personal risk and provide guidance on whether you should sign up for a booster.

Now if you were to be arguing that the FDA should prioritize a U12 EUA before approving boosters, or that ACIP should provide more age stratified guidance, then that's absolutely fair. But in case of the former, the FDA can only review data once it's been submitted by Pfizer or Moderna, and they can't file applications on their behalf. And in case of the latter, ACIP can't provide guidance for something that's not yet approved by the FDA. Cart before the horse.

Yeah, this is the one I really want right now.

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

How do you think it works, captain Hanson?

literally the first result of the google search, captain napoleon:

Quote

Herd immunity occurs when a large portion of a community (the herd) becomes immune to a disease, making the spread of disease from person to person unlikely. As a result, the whole community becomes protected — not just those who are immune.

 

9 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Yeah, this is the one I really want right now.

You and me both, dude. Every morning I wake up and check the latest articles hoping for some tidbits of info on how the trials are going and whether the FDA is poised let someone like Cody Meissner dominate the conversation with misguided notions at best, or deliberate and obstinate dissention at worst.

Just now, Kz! said:

literally the first result of the google search, captain napoleon:

 

Yeah exactly, and with delta the threshold is much higher now. Is it literally 100%? No. That's not what Toast was saying either. But it's close to 90% for an R0 of 5, or 95% for an R0 of 7, and possibly even higher if breakthroughs are as undercounted as you of all people are constantly implying, meaning you're basically either choosing to get vaccinated, or choosing to get covid.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah exactly, and with delta the threshold is much higher now. Is it literally 100%? 

Great, awesome way of saying I was right again, little dude. 

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Great, awesome way of saying I was right again, little dude. 

Toast never said it was 100%. Take the L... again.

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Toast never said it was 100%. Take the L... again.

He said there were two options, half man. Vaccine or virus. Get wrecked. Again. 

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

He said there were two options, half man. Vaccine or virus. Get wrecked. Again. 

He said crowd, not literally every single person. Take the L, Hanson fan.

Biden administration will require vaccination for nursing home staff 

 

13 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He said crowd, not literally every single person. Take the L, Hanson fan.

Yes, he said the crowd literally had two options, dinklage.   

2 hours ago, Paul852 said:

It's ok, bud. I'm here for you. Let's hit up that Train concert.

I saw Train open for Ben Folds Five a while back.  They were a good live band.  Better than I expected.

Please don't defend me to Kz! He's too stupid to understand. You could ask him what other options there are for herd immunity, but then he would just type more stupid.

 

Is that what you want?

10 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Yes, he said the crowd literally had two options, dinklage.   

You've been fed enough today, but I'll note this next time you refer to a group of people, so I can say you're suffering from dementia because your comment doesn't apply to literally every single person of that group, but instead only 95% of them. Thanks.

Just now, Shepard Wong said:

I saw Train open for Ben Folds Five a while back.  They were a good live band.  Better than I expected.

I like Ben Folds and Train. I'd have went to that concert.

I do not understand what is gained by arguing with KZ

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You've been fed enough today, but I'll note this next time you refer to a group of people, so I can say you're suffering from dementia because your comment doesn't apply to literally every single person of that group, but instead only 95% of them. Thanks.

I'm sure you will next time, little buddy. Until then pick up a dictionary so you don't look so ridiculous, would you?

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You've been fed enough today, but I'll note this next time you refer to a group of people, so I can say you're suffering from dementia because your comment doesn't apply to literally every single person of that group, but instead only 95% of them. Thanks.

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I do not understand what is gained by arguing with KZ

For wegottabelieve? He gets humility and a lower self-esteem. 

15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

I do not understand what is gained by arguing with KZ

There is nothing at all to be gained from replying to him.

Angry parent rips mask off Texas teacher, district superintendent says

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/08/18/angry-parent-rips-mask-off-texas-teacher-district-superintendent-says/

Because this is how the lynched and the kzs roll.

11 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Angry parent rips mask off Texas teacher, district superintendent says

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/08/18/angry-parent-rips-mask-off-texas-teacher-district-superintendent-says/

Because this is how the lynched and the kzs roll.

Yes, I totally assault people everyday, captain dementia. 

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah it's crazy to think trumpbots would be so vaccine hesitant. I'm not sure we'll ever figure out why.

Same reason minorities, and Phd's are, I guess, yet you all never call them out for it.

Just now, The_Omega said:

Same reason minorities, and Phd's are, I guess, yet you all never call them out for it.

If the cult leader of minorities, and PhDs, come across with similar horseshit accusations of the FDA being in the pocket of big pharma, then you bet your ass I'll call those cult leaders out for it too. 

4 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

Same reason minorities, and Phd's are, I guess, yet you all never call them out for it.

OMG, stop it. Don't you dare try to suggest most Phds are vaccine hesitant based on that survey.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

If the cult leader of minorities, and PhDs, come across with similar horseshit accusations of the FDA being in the pocket of big pharma, then you bet your ass I'll call those cult leaders out for it too. 

Oh yeah, money is no concern here at all.    It's becoming clearer every day that those in power realize that this pandemic is a threat to their power.  Why have we given them power?  To make decisions, because they know what they're doing.  Except they're just making it up as they go, because they don't know what they're doing.  If they did they wouldn't keep contradicting what they said the week before.  And if they don't know what they're doing, then why do we keep giving them power?  Because people like you blindly rush to the front lines to defend them.  What we have now is politicians demanding that doctors get vaccinated.  That's some serious science there.  Because who would know medical science better than politicians?  Certainly not doctors.  I'm pro vaccine.  I'll get the booster if they needed.  And I'll keep asking questions because questioning is far more important than your blind fealty.