August 24, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: Last one is a winner. 20 Of The Absolute Worst Excuses People Have For Not Getting The COVID Vaccine https://apple.news/A5_CTuICrSYOa5YTRBnlEbg Hard to argue with this.
August 24, 20214 yr 27 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: Last one is a winner. That's the first time I heard of the potato trick.
August 24, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: https://www.wired.com/story/would-it-be-fair-to-treat-vaccinated-covid-patients-first/ Would It Be Fair to Treat Vaccinated Covid Patients First? Last week, Texas health care policymakers discussed taking vaccination status into account for Covid triage. It’s a larger conversation ethicists are bracing for. This should be a huge non-issue. If the experimental vaccines work so well, there shouldn't be a need to ration resources between the vaxxed and unvaxxed since there will be so few vaccinated patients to take care of. Unless, of course, the vaccines were rushed and shoddy.
August 24, 20214 yr 52 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Hard to argue with this. that truck driver is a much better troll than the ones we're stuck with on this board.
August 24, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: You make the rest of us Republicans look bad. He makes the human race look bad.
August 24, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: This should be a huge non-issue. If the experimental vaccines work so well, there shouldn't be a need to ration resources between the vaxxed and unvaxxed since there will be so few vaccinated patients to take care of. Unless, of course, the vaccines were rushed and shoddy. If you actually read the article, that's addressed. Only the vast majority of people who end up requiring hospitalization are unvaccinated, so the discussion of whether triaging should involve a consideration of vaccination status basically was a moot point. Quote In Texas, more than 12,800 people are in the hospital because of Covid-19, and between 93 and 98 percent of them are unvaccinated. It’s tempting to blame this wave not on the virus but on the people who didn’t get their shots. "This has been bubbling up—this anger, this frustration, this fear, this worry. Every day, we’re seeing the ascent of the curve. Now it’s the steepest it’s ever been,” Fine says. "So I and the other leaders of the task force, we decided, you know, these numbers are not looking good. These questions are coming up.” The bottom line to these numbers is that if more people were vaccinated, we might still be seeing high case counts but hospitals would contain a fraction of the serious cases they're dealing with now. THIS is why EVERYBODY should get vaccinated, even if your weird flex is "my immune system is better than yours".
August 24, 20214 yr These Docs and nurses are burning, if not already burnt out! https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/75-doctors-from-multiple-south-florida-hospitals-staged-a-walkout-to-protest-a-surge-in-unvaccinated-covid-19-patients/ar-AANFZos?ocid=entnewsntp&li=BBnb7Kz I hope people wake up real soon and we won't go through another dark winter.
August 24, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: THIS is why EVERYBODY should get vaccinated, even if your weird flex is "my immune system is better than yours". I don't get it. Vaccines work because your immune system fights it off. So yeah, it's even better if you have a good immune system. Then the shot is a piece of cake for you. Nothing to worry about. Get the vax so we can get past this dangerous phase of the virus. Wouldn't you rather take a controlled amount of virus, that won't get you sick? That's going to protect against reinfection? Rather than take your chances catching it in the wild, unvaccinated? What's the hang up?
August 24, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, toolg said: I don't get it. Vaccines work because your immune system fights it off. So yeah, it's even better if you have a good immune system. Then the shot is a piece of cake for you. Nothing to worry about. Get the vax so we can get past this dangerous phase of the virus. Wouldn't you rather take a controlled amount of virus, that won't get you sick? That's going to protect against reinfection? Rather than take your chances catching it in the wild, unvaccinated? What's the hang up? Misinformation.
August 24, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, toolg said: I don't get it. Vaccines work because your immune system fights it off. So yeah, it's even better if you have a good immune system. Then the shot is a piece of cake for you. Nothing to worry about. Get the vax so we can get past this dangerous phase of the virus. Wouldn't you rather take a controlled amount of virus, that won't get you sick? That's going to protect against reinfection? Rather than take your chances catching it in the wild, unvaccinated? What's the hang up? People are dumb. Dumb may mean they are just literally stupid, or they're allowing their hubris to override reason. Or they're so committed to this idea that COVID is political that if they get the shot it's somehow "being owned by the libs". Which are all dumb reasons. Getting the vaccine is like giving your immune system a battle plan for defeating the virus. Yeah, it may figure it out on its own, but it will take an extra few days and by then you may have a severe case and end up in the hospital - WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING.
August 24, 20214 yr https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html A nice list of vaccinations that have helped the US completely beat some diseases. Some, like Measles, the unvaccinated keep catching overseas and bringing home and causing hotspots, but thankfully, MOST people are vaccinated. We no longer have huge polio wards. When I was in the military, you got extra vaccinations, and then even more if you went overseas, which I did. You have been getting these since you were a child. They don't cause autism. They prevent disease with VERY FEW ill effects.
August 24, 20214 yr So now that the FDA has approved the Pfizer vaccine, that opens the to door to issue Mandates. That seems to be the only (and best) way to get those who are hesitant to get vaccinated
August 24, 20214 yr 29 minutes ago, DiPros said: These Docs and nurses are burning, if not already burnt out! https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/75-doctors-from-multiple-south-florida-hospitals-staged-a-walkout-to-protest-a-surge-in-unvaccinated-covid-19-patients/ar-AANFZos?ocid=entnewsntp&li=BBnb7Kz I hope people wake up real soon and we won't go through another dark winter. I'm surprised the Floriduh Governor hasn't threatened them for their walk out yet.
August 24, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: As far as tracking is concerned. This is the site I usually refer too. It shows % of test that are positive. The daily cases can continue to rise if the tests rise. But does the % positive rise? That's the key. Back when cases started to plummet, this graph started fall first. It now shows a leveling off in recent days...which is important. Hopefully it's a trend and indication that the a downward curve is coming. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states Positivity Rate trend is important, I agree. Good signs the nation is leveling off, but I think it's even more important to look at your local rates. In some places the positivity rate is still growing, like around Philly metro.
August 24, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, toolg said: Positivity Rate trend is important, I agree. Good signs the nation is leveling off, but I think it's even more important to look at your local rates. In some places the positivity rate is still growing, like around Philly metro. been watching the hospitalization rates here in Bucks. last week we were in the high 20s, now we're at 44 hospitalized. GET VACCINATED OR BOBEPH WILL SHOVE A SHAKEN UP CAN OF WHITE CLAW UP YOUR CHIMP-HOLE AND POP IT OPEN!
August 24, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: You will also see a spike as colleges have opened back up Some of that f-ing kids still don't think they need to get vaxx'd. I keep trying to convince my "too busy" daughter to get it done. Maybe I should tell her not to get it done and then she will. In florida, cases are dropping for all age groups except for one... the under 18 group. Delta is tearing through schools down there and in other states. Do everything you can to convince her to get it before it's too late.
August 24, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: You make the rest of us Republicans look bad. Meh, I don't want a vaccine that was rushed through virtually every normal process to be produced in record time, that the experts are already saying wears off after 6 months, all so I don't catch a disease that is highly unlikely to make someone in my age/weight group seriously ill. You sound like a whiny ****.
August 24, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: been watching the hospitalization rates here in Bucks. last week we were in the high 20s, now we're at 44 hospitalized. GET VACCINATED OR BOBEPH WILL SHOVE A SHAKEN UP CAN OF WHITE CLAW UP YOUR CHIMP-HOLE AND POP IT OPEN! 44 people? Not to bad out of 629,000 people. My guess is most of them are in the far southern reaches around Philly.
August 24, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If you actually read the article, that's addressed. Only the vast majority of people who end up requiring hospitalization are unvaccinated, so the discussion of whether triaging should involve a consideration of vaccination status basically was a moot point. The bottom line to these numbers is that if more people were vaccinated, we might still be seeing high case counts but hospitals would contain a fraction of the serious cases they're dealing with now. THIS is why EVERYBODY should get vaccinated, even if your weird flex is "my immune system is better than yours". I skimmed the headline.
August 24, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: You will also see a spike as colleges have opened back up Some of that f-ing kids still don't think they need to get vaxx'd. I keep trying to convince my "too busy" daughter to get it done. Maybe I should tell her not to get it done and then she will. LOL! Seriously though, I think colleges should start setting up their own vaccination clinics. If you could just walk-in between classes, take the shot, then go about your day, easy-peasy. Make it as convenient as possible.
August 24, 20214 yr Just now, toolg said: LOL! Seriously though, I think colleges should start setting up their own vaccination clinics. If you could just walk-in between classes, take the shot, then go about your day, easy-peasy. Make it as convenient as possible. Ours announced they are required them to stay in the dorms or attend in-person classes. That's probably part of the reason why our vax rates have plateaued a few weeks back after having dropped steadily up until that point.
August 24, 20214 yr Just now, rambo said: 44 people? Not to bad out of 629,000 people. My guess is most of them are in the far southern reaches around Philly. Not sure, but that's where most of the population and cases have been historically so it's probably true. 44 isn't bad if that's where it stays, the concern is that the trend is sharply upward matching early surges from previous periods of high hospitalizations. And when you see states like Florida exceeding previous highs and Texas flirting with them, it's a concern. Our previous high is in the 175 range. During that time the whole county was down to 20 ICU beds available. ICU availability is holding steady though, which hopefully is an indication that while some are getting hospitalized most aren't so severe that it requires ventilation and time in the ICU. Hopefully our vaccination rates help keep this number steady, but there's a lot of MAGA morons who think this is all a hoax or that the vaccine is somehow more dangerous. On the plus side, the case growth is much slower than previous waves. It's definitely trending up, but it's a much slower climb compared to the surge over the winter. Given Delta's quicker case growth in other areas, I have to attribute this to the vaccines without knowing more.
August 24, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Ours announced they are required them to stay in the dorms or attend in-person classes. That's probably part of the reason why our vax rates have plateaued a few weeks back after having dropped steadily up until that point. It has to be mandatory to live in a dorm. COVID virus will tear through a place like that, making the whole building ill.
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