September 21, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, Kz! said: Michigan breakthrough cases as of 9/16: 25K cases 1,043 hospitalizations 330 deaths hey dip$***, stop posting nominal figures. they don't mean anything without context. edit: and also stop posting numbers without sources. in Michigan 5.1 million are fully vaccinated. this translates to less than 7 per 100k deaths. there's been 1,300 total deaths since June 1, so let's just be generous and say all 330 deaths amongst vaccinated are from this timeframe and 970 deaths are among the unvaccinated. even with this very generous back of the napkin analysis, which ignores that the high risk population overlaps with the vaccinated population quite a bit, you're almost 3x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. deeper analysis that actually takes into account vaccination rates among different age groups and the ages of the deaths reported shows that you're at least 7x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. so again, you don't have to keep showing how stupid you are. we know man. we know.
September 21, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: hey dip$***, stop posting nominal figures. they don't mean anything without context. edit: and also stop posting numbers without sources. in Michigan 5.1 million are fully vaccinated. this translates to less than 7 per 100k deaths. there's been 1,300 total deaths since June 1, so let's just be generous and say all 330 deaths amongst vaccinated are from this timeframe and 970 deaths are among the unvaccinated. even with this very generous back of the napkin analysis, which ignores that the high risk population overlaps with the vaccinated population quite a bit, you're almost 3x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. deeper analysis that actually takes into account vaccination rates among different age groups and the ages of the deaths reported shows that you're at least 7x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. so again, you don't have to keep showing how stupid you are. we know man. we know. You typed all of that you already KNOW it will make no difference to it.
September 21, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: hey dip$***, stop posting nominal figures. they don't mean anything without context. edit: and also stop posting numbers without sources. in Michigan 5.1 million are fully vaccinated. this translates to less than 7 per 100k deaths. there's been 1,300 total deaths since June 1, so let's just be generous and say all 330 deaths amongst vaccinated are from this timeframe and 970 deaths are among the unvaccinated. even with this very generous back of the napkin analysis, which ignores that the high risk population overlaps with the vaccinated population quite a bit, you're almost 3x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. deeper analysis that actually takes into account vaccination rates among different age groups and the ages of the deaths reported shows that you're at least 7x more likely to die if you're unvaccinated. so again, you don't have to keep showing how stupid you are. we know man. we know. Raw data is still valuable. These numbers come directly from those state's health departments. The sheer number of breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths is pretty eye-opening. Just proves that everyone should still be careful, regardless of vaccination status.
September 21, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm
September 21, 20214 yr Just now, Kz! said: Raw data is still valuable. These numbers come directly from those state's health departments. The sheer number of breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths is pretty eye-opening. Just proves that everyone should still be careful, regardless of vaccination status. Very true. Be safe out there, everyone. I would put the # of masks you should wear at a MINIMUM of two.
September 21, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Kz! said: Illinois: https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine-breakthrough because you're a troll posting incomplete information and specifically cut it off at the percentages that make you look like a total moron. total deaths to COVID in Illinois are 25k. 9k since Jan 1. so during the "vaccine era" there have been about 20x more deaths among unvaccinated than vaccinated. if we generously shorten that timeframe to when most high risk individuals (who still make up most of the deaths) who are getting vaccinated DID get vaccinated, we're looking at about 5,000 deaths among the unvaccinated vs 432 among vaccinated with comparable populations in each (around when the state was 50/50, and the high risk population was about 70% vaccinated) YOU ARE STILL A MORON. can't wait for you to invoke riot kitchen like it means something 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Raw data is still valuable. These numbers come directly from those state's health departments. The sheer number of breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths is pretty eye-opening. Just proves that everyone should still be careful, regardless of vaccination status. No, it isn't. Not without context. You fall for the base rate fallacy because you want to. You are a moron with a stupid narrative looking for any evidence to support it and ignoring or rejecting any evidence that does not. Congrats, you've attained peak useful idiot status.
September 21, 20214 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine-breakthrough because you're a troll posting incomplete information and specifically cut it off at the percentages that make you look like a total moron. total deaths to COVID in Illinois are 25k. 9k since Jan 1. so during the "vaccine era" there have been about 20x more deaths among unvaccinated than vaccinated. if we generously shorten that timeframe to when most high risk individuals (who still make up most of the deaths) who are getting vaccinated DID get vaccinated, we're looking at about 5,000 deaths among the unvaccinated vs 432 among vaccinated with comparable populations in each (around when the state was 50/50, and the high risk population was about 70% vaccinated) YOU ARE STILL A MORON. can't wait for you to invoke riot kitchen like it means something Busted
September 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine-breakthrough because you're a troll posting incomplete information and specifically cut it off at the percentages that make you look like a total moron. total deaths to COVID in Illinois are 25k. 9k since Jan 1. so during the "vaccine era" there have been about 20x more deaths among unvaccinated than vaccinated. if we generously shorten that timeframe to when most high risk individuals (who still make up most of the deaths) who are getting vaccinated DID get vaccinated, we're looking at about 5,000 deaths among the unvaccinated vs 432 among vaccinated with comparable populations in each (around when the state was 50/50, and the high risk population was about 70% vaccinated) YOU ARE STILL A MORON. can't wait for you to invoke riot kitchen like it means something Relax, Mr. Kitchen. No one is saying the vaccines aren't amazing. I'm just posting raw data to help keep my vaccinated cvon friends safe. Tens of thousands of vaccinated individuals are being infected on a daily basis and many thousands have died. Wash your hands.
September 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Relax, Mr. Kitchen. No one is saying the vaccines aren't amazing. I'm just posting raw data to help keep my vaccinated cvon friends safe. Tens of thousands of vaccinated individuals are being infected on a daily basis and many thousands have died. Wash your hands. Serious question. Are you personally cropping graphics to keep yourself from looking like an idiot or did those come from Prison Planet/Catturd?
September 21, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: No, it isn't. Not without context. You fall for the base rate fallacy because you want to. You are a moron with a stupid narrative looking for any evidence to support it and ignoring or rejecting any evidence that does not. Congrats, you've attained peak useful idiot status. Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree that raw data isn't important when discussing this subject.
September 21, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Very true. Be safe out there, everyone. I would put the # of masks you should wear at a MINIMUM of two. Three if you're attending a Hanson concert.
September 21, 20214 yr I was at a super spreader event Sunday - lots of disappointed maskless folks at the Link
September 21, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Serious question. Are you personally cropping graphics to keep yourself from looking like an idiot or did those come from Prison Planet/Catturd? Similar data out of Washington state. Almost all had symptoms, around 3 thousand were hospitalized. wow wow wow
September 21, 20214 yr Just now, Kz! said: Similar data out of Washington state. Almost all had symptoms, around 3 thousand were hospitalized. wow wow wow So it was Catturd?
September 21, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: I was at a super spreader event Sunday - lots of disappointed maskless folks at the Link Darwin award candidate right here, folks! 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: So it was Catturd? Oregon: Over 21,000 breakthrough cases 915 hospitalizations 172 deaths Source: https://www.oregon.gov/oha/covid19/Documents/DataReports/Breakthrough-Case-Report.pdf
September 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Darwin award candidate right here, folks! Oregon: Over 21,000 breakthrough cases 915 hospitalizations 172 deaths Source: https://www.oregon.gov/oha/covid19/Documents/DataReports/Breakthrough-Case-Report.pdf Yep, Catturd.
September 21, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: I was at a super spreader event Sunday - lots of disappointed maskless folks at the Link What was happening and why were the folks dissapointed ?? Not familiar with that venue.
September 21, 20214 yr Just now, downundermike said: What was happening and why were the folks dissapointed ?? Not familiar with that venue.
September 21, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Kz! said: Darwin award candidate right here, folks! Oregon: Over 21,000 breakthrough cases 915 hospitalizations 172 deaths Source: https://www.oregon.gov/oha/covid19/Documents/DataReports/Breakthrough-Case-Report.pdf Did you even read what is in the link ??
September 21, 20214 yr Just now, downundermike said: Did you even read what is in the link ?? Of course. I'm well versed on the subject. What would you like to know?
September 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, downundermike said: Did you even read what is in the link ?? Found your problem
September 21, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, downundermike said: Did you even read what is in the linc ?? FYP
September 21, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: Of course. I'm well versed on the subject. What would you like to know? Tell me, what does this say about risks of being unvaccinated?
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