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The 2020 Corona Thread

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I don't think they require any sort of proof of the details that make you "high-risk" to schedule a booster shot, other than they'll take your word for it.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, toolg said:

I don't think they require any sort of proof of the details that make you "high-risk" to schedule a booster shot, other than they'll take your word for it.

 

 

They don't.  I've had the Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and 3 Pfizer boosters already and I'm not high risk.  I just want to give those within a 5 sqmi radius of me 5g reception.

1 hour ago, rambo said:

They don't.  I've had the Pfizer, Moderna, J&J and 3 Pfizer boosters already and I'm not high risk.  I just want to give those within a 5 sqmi radius of me 5g reception.

He's not lying.

Pretty sure he was a few rows in front of my at Phantom's game and my service was off the hook!!!!

It's guys like Joe Rogan who are a danger to the country.

Joe Rogan Thinks Biden Faked His COVID-19 Booster Shot on Live TV

https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-rogan-thinks-biden-faked-171338577.html

 Joe Rogan’s streak of terrible COVID-19 takes continued this week when he baselessly suggested the White House faked President Joe Biden’s booster shot on live TV out of fear that he could have dropped dead in the moment.

After Biden took questions from reporters while received his third dose of the Pfizer jab earlier this week, Rogan used his massively popular Spotify podcast to wonder aloud if it was a "real booster.”

When his guest, former CIA officer Mike Baker agreed, suggesting that it was merely "performance art,” Rogan dug deeper into his latest conspiracy theory.

"I don’t think they would take the chance,” the host said. "I think if they were going to give him a booster shot, the last thing they would do is give it to him live on television. What if he dies? What if he blacks out? What if he gets it and faints? Because people have had very bad reactions, like in the moment, for whatever reason.”

The Anti-Vaxx Movement Is Taking Over the Republican Party

 
Peter Wade
Thu, September 30, 2021, 10:02 AM
 
 
Virus Outbreak US - Credit: AP
 
Virus Outbreak US - Credit: AP

The anti-vaccine rhetoric pushed by Republican politicians is working. According to a new AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll, approximately six in 10 Republicans say they disapprove of President Biden’s Covid-19 vaccine mandates that require most workers to be vaccinated or submit to regular testing.

The poll, released Thursday, found that a very narrow majority of Americans, 51 percent, approve of Biden’s plan while 34 percent of respondents said they disapprove. Fourteen percent had no opinion.

Democrats, on the other hand, overwhelmingly favor Biden’s vaccine requirements, with three-quarters of them approving. Overall, approximately two-thirds of Americans said they are at least somewhat confident that the Covid-19 vaccines provide protection against infection. 

Many Republican politicians also oppose vaccine mandates, even officials who are themselves vaccinated, like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who has held events where he invited anti-vaxx activists to speak and stood by while they spread blatant lies about the vaccine.

"I don’t believe the federal government should have a say in me having to get the vaccine or lose my job or get tested,” an unvaccinated firefighter and Republican Emilio Rodriguez told the AP.

But for Democrats like Sarah Carver, the decision was relatively simple: "I believe Dr. Fauci,” she told the AP.

1 hour ago, toolg said:

I don't think they require any sort of proof of the details that make you "high-risk" to schedule a booster shot, other than they'll take your word for it.

 

 

Good to know. I might be feeling high risk in about 3-4 weeks.

39 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

The Anti-Vaxx Movement Is Taking Over the Republican Party

 
Peter Wade
Thu, September 30, 2021, 10:02 AM
 
 
Virus Outbreak US - Credit: AP
 
Virus Outbreak US - Credit: AP

The anti-vaccine rhetoric pushed by Republican politicians is working. According to a new AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll, approximately six in 10 Republicans say they disapprove of President Biden’s Covid-19 vaccine mandates that require most workers to be vaccinated or submit to regular testing.

The poll, released Thursday, found that a very narrow majority of Americans, 51 percent, approve of Biden’s plan while 34 percent of respondents said they disapprove. Fourteen percent had no opinion.

Democrats, on the other hand, overwhelmingly favor Biden’s vaccine requirements, with three-quarters of them approving. Overall, approximately two-thirds of Americans said they are at least somewhat confident that the Covid-19 vaccines provide protection against infection. 

Many Republican politicians also oppose vaccine mandates, even officials who are themselves vaccinated, like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, who has held events where he invited anti-vaxx activists to speak and stood by while they spread blatant lies about the vaccine.

"I don’t believe the federal government should have a say in me having to get the vaccine or lose my job or get tested,” an unvaccinated firefighter and Republican Emilio Rodriguez told the AP.

But for Democrats like Sarah Carver, the decision was relatively simple: "I believe Dr. Fauci,” she told the AP.

I mean, it's pretty simple really. It's smart vs. stupid. Has been for quite a while.

4 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

Joe Rogan Thinks Biden Faked His COVID-19 Booster Shot on Live TV

 

Couldn't say for sure, but I would think this has something to do with why someone would think Biden faked getting the shot.

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Portugal: the world’s vaccination flagbearer

https://www.portugalresident.com/portugal-the-worlds-vaccination-flagbearer/

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Putting a small selection of vaccine-resisters (around 3% of the population) and children under 12 to one side, the 85% figure is considered the maximum amount possible.

Portugal is forming into a real-world answer to a worldwide hypothetical question: how effective is the vaccine against Covid-19? Most other nations argue a rise in cases, hospitalizations and deaths are due to a semi-vaccinated population. In Portugal, however, there are no places left to hide and the initial signs are promising.

The death rate is currently nine times below the United States average and half that of the European Union.

Death rate 9 times lower than the US.

 

The US is sucking at COVID because of selfish a-holes.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/us/us-covid-deaths-700k.html

 

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The recent virus deaths are distinct from those in previous chapters of the pandemic, an analysis by The New York Times shows. People who died in the last three and a half months were concentrated in the South, a region that has lagged in vaccinations; many of the deaths were reported in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana and Arkansas. And those who died were younger: In August, every age group under 55 had its highest death toll of the pandemic.

 

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Harold Proctor, the coroner in Floyd County, Ga., said his office was handling twice the number of deaths compared with this time last year. At this point in the pandemic, he said, some families are so accustomed to hearing and reading about Covid-19 that they have a sense that deaths from the virus are commonplace.

"It does seem like they have more accepted that people will die of Covid now,” Mr. Proctor said.

Rather than take a vaccine that billions around the world have taken, and have proven to be safe and effective, we'll just accept COVID deaths to own the libs.

Committing mass ritual suicide out of a sense of loyalty to an incompetent reality game show host. This is America.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Committing mass ritual suicide out of a sense of loyalty to an incompetent reality game show host. This is America.

It's not Trump - you forget that he was heavily pushing vaccine development and supporting vaccines.  One of the biggest factors in the push back is that this crisis is perceived as a means for exercise of more government control over our lives and restriction of our freedoms.  People do not trust the government or Big Pharm nor the data regarding infection rates, recovery, and vaccine reaction.  There is also a lack of trust regarding outright dismissal of the efficacy of cheap, readily available drugs like Ivermectin (used quite effectively in parts of India) and HCQ while pushing for newly developed meds that of course will be patented and very expensive.

As for the accuracy of the data we are being given, here's a doctor's take:

 

If you share Sebastian Gorka tweets you surrender your privilege to question the legitimacy of sources. 

6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

If you share Sebastian Gorka tweets you surrender your privilege to question the legitimacy of sources. 

Typical closed minded response - shoot the messenger.  Who gives a crap about Gorka one way or another.  It's the doctor in the video.  Gorka is only the person who posted the video.  The EMB doesn't have the capacity for us to upload videos, otherwise, we would be able to bypass the tweet.

 

2 hours ago, Procus said:

Typical closed minded response - shoot the messenger.  Who gives a crap about Gorka one way or another.  It's the doctor in the video.  Gorka is only the person who posted the video.  The EMB doesn't have the capacity for us to upload videos, otherwise, we would be able to bypass the tweet.

 

I have no idea who the doctor is and neither do you. You only share the opinion because it aligns with your preferred narrative.

Meanwhile you ignore or downplay the testimony - communicated either direct or through behaviors - of the vast majority of doctors, especially those in the sphere of epidemiology and virology. 

You ignore that billions have been vaccinated worldwide without the widespread number of side effects these anti-vaxxers are claiming.

But sure, let's overstate the musings of one outlier doctor shared by Sebastian freaking Gorka.

11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

But sure, let's overstate the musings of one outlier doctor shared by Sebastian freaking Gorka.

To every data set there are outliers.  It’s up to the analysts to determine if it needs further research.  Point on antibodies seems like a good idea.  Could use more research on how long those exposed to COVID compares to vaccine.  That said it is costly and problematic to collect all those samples.

7 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

To every data set there are outliers.  It’s up to the analysts to determine if it needs further research.  Point on antibodies seems like a good idea.  Could use more research on how long those exposed to COVID compares to vaccine.  That said it is costly and problematic to collect all those samples.

She makes an assertion that those tests aren't being done, yet as time has worn on we've started to see that very bit of data. 

People ARE getting tested. We are starting to develop a clearer picture of how long natural and vaccination induced antibodies exist in the body. It's still somewhat murky, but she's putting forth an assertion intended to imply a coverup of some sort.

I cannot say for sure, but I'd wager Covid and the antibodies are getting studied and scrutinized more than any other viral infection in the history of mankind. For her to intimate that there's some sort of nefarious thing going on is incredibly irresponsible. 

And anyone sharing this just looks foolish, because outliers are not what you build a case around.

Outliers are what anti-science quacks have always chased after. 

43 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I have no idea who the doctor is and neither do you. You only share the opinion because it aligns with your preferred narrative.

Meanwhile you ignore or downplay the testimony - communicated either direct or through behaviors - of the vast majority of doctors, especially those in the sphere of epidemiology and virology. 

You ignore that billions have been vaccinated worldwide without the widespread number of side effects these anti-vaxxers are claiming.

But sure, let's overstate the musings of one outlier doctor shared by Sebastian freaking Gorka.

Just a total coincidence all the links he shares are from sites and people that make prison planet look centrist and sane. Nothing to read into there. 

Also love that the guy who has been kicking and screaming about monoclonal antibodies not being discussed enough is now all of sudden raging against big pharma making money off of a pill aimed at accomplishing the same thing.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with him. 

32 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Just a total coincidence all the links he shares are from sites and people that make prison planet look centrist and sane. Nothing to read into there. 

Also love that the guy who has been kicking and screaming about monoclonal antibodies not being discussed enough is now all of sudden raging against big pharma making money off of a pill aimed at accomplishing the same thing.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with him. 

But he's not an antivaxer though.

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I have no idea who the doctor is and neither do you. You only share the opinion because it aligns with your preferred narrative.

Meanwhile you ignore or downplay the testimony - communicated either direct or through behaviors - of the vast majority of doctors, especially those in the sphere of epidemiology and virology. 

You ignore that billions have been vaccinated worldwide without the widespread number of side effects these anti-vaxxers are claiming.

But sure, let's overstate the musings of one outlier doctor shared by Sebastian freaking Gorka.

Not "overstating", but am sharing.  I have personal experience with manipulation of Covid related data early on in the lockdowns.  There were financial incentives for hospitals to classify causes of death as being from Covid, even if that was not the case.   When something like this happens, you'd have to be blind not to question the data being generated on this.

And forget about the doctor in the video and the Gorka tweet - the first part of the post you responded to really is much more important.

Here's the post again sans the tweet:

4 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Committing mass ritual suicide out of a sense of loyalty to an incompetent reality game show host. This is America.

It's not Trump - you forget that he was heavily pushing vaccine development and supporting vaccines.  One of the biggest factors in the push back is that this crisis is perceived as a means for exercise of more government control over our lives and restriction of our freedoms.  People do not trust the government or Big Pharm nor the data regarding infection rates, recovery, and vaccine reaction.  There is also a lack of trust regarding outright dismissal of the efficacy of cheap, readily available drugs like Ivermectin (used quite effectively in parts of India) and HCQ while pushing for newly developed meds that of course will be patented and very expensive.

11 minutes ago, Procus said:

Here's the post again sans the tweet:

It's not Trump - you forget that he was heavily pushing vaccine development and supporting vaccines.  One of the biggest factors in the push back is that this crisis is perceived as a means for exercise of more government control over our lives and restriction of our freedoms.  People do not trust the government or Big Pharm nor the data regarding infection rates, recovery, and vaccine reaction.  There is also a lack of trust regarding outright dismissal of the efficacy of cheap, readily available drugs like Ivermectin (used quite effectively in parts of India) and HCQ while pushing for newly developed meds that of course will be patented and very expensive.

Yea so a president who downplayed the severity of the pandemic for 9 months straight, enough to make it part of his followers' identity, would clearly have nothing to do with a majority of them being hesitant to be vaccinated. Must just be some weird coincidence.

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1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

cannot say for sure, but I'd wager Covid and the antibodies are getting studied and scrutinized more than any other viral infection in the history of mankind. For her to intimate that there's some sort of nefarious thing going on is incredibly irresponsible. 

Over the millions who have been infected, how many have actually been tested  ?     10%, 50%, just seems we’re leaving a lot of data out there.  Yes there are plenty of reports out there, but nothing on the scale it could be.  As far as her adding to all the chatter conspiracy theories, yeah she keep her mouth shut.  Here’s most recent article I could find.  Seems to contradict others I read.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/09/07/1033677208/new-studies-find-evidence-of-superhuman-immunity-to-covid-19-in-some-individuals

 

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