September 30, 20215 yr Just now, lynched1 said: Aren't nurses the ones getting the kick backs from big pharma? No clue. Maybe. Is that what they’re saying on facebook?
September 30, 20215 yr Email I got today from the Mass Board of Medicine I'ma narc on some homeopaths so hard.
September 30, 20215 yr 27 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Are you trying to imply they aren't? You think the level of credentials and licensing are even in the same universe? You think their level of pay isn't indicative of their expertise? How many bad takes can you possibly have in one thread, dude? You damn right I'm implying that in many respects - and I have no doubt that despite the back and forth on this thread that @DEagle7 agrees with this statement. People are usually better at their assigned repetitive tasks than others. In most cases, you would want a phlebotomist to draw blood over a doctor, and a phlebotomist is not even a nurse. You need an ultrasound performed? You don't want the doctor doing it in most cases - you want the nurse who's performing a dozen ultrasounds every day doing that. And this crosses across industry lines. In the legal field, there are certain aspects of law practice that you absolutely want a paralegal to perform over an attorney. And on top of that, there are some really **** doctors out there - horrible doctors, and some excellent nurses.
September 30, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: You damn right I'm implying that in many respects - and I have no doubt that despite the back and forth on this thread that @DEagle7 agrees with this statement. People are usually better at their assigned repetitive tasks than others. In most cases, you would want a phlebotomist to draw blood over a doctor, and a phlebotomist is not even a nurse. You need an ultrasound performed? You don't want the doctor doing it in most cases - you want the nurse who's performing a dozen ultrasounds every day doing that. And this crosses across industry lines. In the legal field, there are certain aspects of law practice that you absolutely want a paralegal to perform over an attorney. And on top of that, there are some really **** doctors out there - horrible doctors, and some excellent nurses. And if you'd want someone giving advice on/dictating hospital wide policy on an infectious disease you'd want... You're so close to getting there. I believe in you.
September 30, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Procus said: You damn right I'm implying that in many respects - and I have no doubt that despite the back and forth on this thread that @DEagle7 agrees with this statement. People are usually better at their assigned repetitive tasks than others. In most cases, you would want a phlebotomist to draw blood over a doctor, and a phlebotomist is not even a nurse. You need an ultrasound performed? You don't want the doctor doing it in most cases - you want the nurse who's performing a dozen ultrasounds every day doing that. And this crosses across industry lines. In the legal field, there are certain aspects of law practice that you absolutely want a paralegal to perform over an attorney. And on top of that, there are some really **** doctors out there - horrible doctors, and some excellent nurses. Generally speaking, doctors are far more proficient at practicing medicine than nurses are. That's, like, the reason why they're doctors. It's really not a difficult concept. Are there some bad doctors? Of course. Are there some excellent nurses? Of course. Should you ever imply doctors and nurses are equally proficient at practicing medicine? No. No, you should not, unless you never want to be taken seriously by anyone not suffering from life long brain damage.
September 30, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: And if you'd want someone giving advice on/dictating hospital wide policy on an infectious disease you'd want... You're so close to getting there. I believe in you. Hardly. I'd want the best doctors to lead the charge there. Although if there were some hot shot nurses on staff, damn right I'd want them involved in the decision making process and find it hard to believe that you would not want their participation.
September 30, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Procus said: Hardly. I'd want the best doctors to lead the charge there. Although if there were some hot shot nurses on staff, damn right I'd want them involved in the decision making process and find it hard to believe that you would not want their participation. Why not just have someone dress up in a naughty nurse costume and then have that person formulate treatment plans?
September 30, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Why not just have someone dress up in a naughty nurse costume and then have that person formulate treatment plans? You mean like this nurse?
September 30, 20215 yr 12 minutes ago, Procus said: Hardly. I'd want the best doctors to lead the charge there. Although if there were some hot shot nurses on staff, damn right I'd want them involved in the decision making process and find it hard to believe that you would not want their participation. OK good. So maybe when it comes to the decision to get vaccinated, take certain medications, wear masks etc you should listen tooooooo.... (Almost there)
September 30, 20215 yr 41 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: OK good. So maybe when it comes to the decision to get vaccinated, take certain medications, wear masks etc you should listen tooooooo.... (Almost there) And what makes you think I haven't been vaccinated? You have no clue about my vaccination status, and I won't be sharing it on these public boards with any of you. It's my own private business and none of your business unless I choose to let you know.
September 30, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Go tell that to the population of Gibraltar where they have 100% vaccination and soaring Covid.
September 30, 20215 yr On 9/28/2021 at 1:38 PM, vikas83 said: This thread...brutal. At this point we should just start denying care to unvaccinated.
September 30, 20215 yr 7 hours ago, Procus said: Go tell that to the population of Gibraltar where they have 100% vaccination and soaring Covid. 119% vaccinated? Gibraltar emerges as the world champion in giving COVID-19 shots British territory reported zero COVID-19 deaths since February 28 https://gulfnews.com/world/119-vaccinated-gibraltar-emerges-as-the-world-champion-in-giving-covid-19-shots-1.1632935418159 Fully vaccinated and zero deaths doesn't sound horrible to me. Clearly we measure success differently.
September 30, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Toastrel said: 119% vaccinated? Gibraltar emerges as the world champion in giving COVID-19 shots British territory reported zero COVID-19 deaths since February 28 https://gulfnews.com/world/119-vaccinated-gibraltar-emerges-as-the-world-champion-in-giving-covid-19-shots-1.1632935418159 Fully vaccinated and zero deaths doesn't sound horrible to me. Clearly we measure success differently. Funny how different news sources say different things: https://www.europereloaded.com/gibraltar-100-vaccinated-corona-incidence-is-going-through-the-roof/ Gibraltar: 100% vaccinated – Corona incidence is going through the roof REPORT24 Gibraltar was sold in the media as a prime example of how wonderfully "normal” life could be if only every citizen dutifully picked up his vaccination: on the small peninsula with fewer than 34,000 inhabitants, a vaccination rate of 100% was actually achieved. In the meantime, however, it has become suspiciously quiet around the oh-so-successful country. This is hardly surprising, because the incidence in Gibraltar has exploded: it is currently well over 400. Data from Gibraltar already raised serious questions at the beginning of the year when, just in time for the start of the vaccination campaign in January, the previously low corona death rate in the country began to rise massively. Fact checkers financed by the pharmaceutical industry tried to deny any connection between the deaths and the vaccination – but, as usual, they could not provide any counter-evidence: The conclusion was simply that a causal connection was not officially confirmed. Of course, that means nothing – so far, every serious side effect of the Covid vaccine has been downplayed unrestrainedly, until sooner or later an official warning had to be issued. And now the numbers from Gibraltar are fueling all doubts about the meaning and purpose of the corona vaccinations. Most recently, a 7-day incidence of a whopping 489.8 was recorded – and the number of cases continues to rise. There are hardly any serious cases; however, this is not surprising, after all, Covid-19 is not dangerous for the majority of the population. Officials attribute the explosion in the number of cases despite vaccination to the delta variant, i.e. the variant because of which every adult (and every child) in this country is supposed to be forced to receive the supposedly protective vaccination. Other countries with high vaccination rates also have high case numbers Gibraltar is anything but an isolated case . For example, Report24 reported on the Seychelles as early as May : Their vaccination rate is considered exemplary worldwide – to this day the Seychelles have one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. At the same time, however, they also have one of the highest incidences with values well over 500 . ************
September 30, 20215 yr And they're both wrong, since no country, as far as I'm aware, has vaccinated their entire population under the age of 18. Vaccinated 100% of eligible adults is not the same as 100% of the total population. And spare me the "kids don't get covid" nonsense we've seen from trumpbots during the past year and a half.
September 30, 20215 yr RIP. I don't wish this on anyone. https://www.survivethenews.com/former-notre-dame-professor-who-said-damn-the-unvaccinated-dies-two-weeks-after-receiving-3rd-covid-shot/ Former Notre Dame Professor Who Said, "Damn the Unvaccinated” Dies Two Weeks After Receiving 3rd Covid Shot BySurvive the News Sep 29, 2021 Orlando, Florida – A former Notre Dame professor who routinely attacked unvaccinated people as "selfish” passed away after she received her 3rd Covid vaccine. 67-year-old Karen Croake Heisler received her first Pfizer Covid jab on January 13, 2021. "Just got my first dose of the vaccine. Never been happier to be "old.” Now let’s get these vaccines rolling for everyone!” she said. On April 9, Heisler tweeted that she had zero side effects after receiving her second Pfizer jab. A week later, Heisler started to have complications and cursed the unvaccinated. Heisler said her cardiologist tried to admit her to the hospital but there are no rooms because of Covid. About two weeks after her third Covid jab, Karen Croake Heisler passed away. According to Heisler’s obituary, she died of "cancer-related complications” on September 19. https://twitter.com/jessica_smetana/status/1439747534579290112?s=20
September 30, 20215 yr Pope GOAT at it again, this time mandating everyone at the Vatican get vaccinated. Score another one for the good guys.
September 30, 20215 yr Here's the COVID statement from the site Procus just linked "Europe Reloaded" just in case anyone's curious WHO ARE WE & WHAT DO WE STAND FOR? COVID UPDATE: We support REAL science led by doctors and researchers such as Michael Yeadon, Wolfgang Wodarg, Sucharit Bhakdi, Dolores Cahill, Heiko Schoning, Andrew Kaufmann, &etc. We do not endorse liberty- and economy-destroying measures such as lockdowns, the wearing of masks, and the fear propaganda of the media based on lies about ‘cases’ and death rates. We oppose the Great Reset policy of the Davos crowd. We oppose the massive election fraud that has been proven to exist in the November US presidential election. We oppose forced vaccine policies and vaccine passports. We support natural health, support for our immune systems, and proven treatments such as HCQ and ivermectin. They also have articles on how billionaires are trying to depopulate the earth. Full EagleVA style "Funny how different sites say different things"
September 30, 20215 yr 16 hours ago, Procus said: Just found out that we lost a friend in her early 70's to Covid. She was fully vaccinated. RIP. Sorry for your loss, Procus.
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