October 2, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: If you share Sebastian Gorka tweets you surrender your privilege to question the legitimacy of sources. Typical closed minded response - shoot the messenger. Who gives a crap about Gorka one way or another. It's the doctor in the video. Gorka is only the person who posted the video. The EMB doesn't have the capacity for us to upload videos, otherwise, we would be able to bypass the tweet.
October 2, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Procus said: Typical closed minded response - shoot the messenger. Who gives a crap about Gorka one way or another. It's the doctor in the video. Gorka is only the person who posted the video. The EMB doesn't have the capacity for us to upload videos, otherwise, we would be able to bypass the tweet. I have no idea who the doctor is and neither do you. You only share the opinion because it aligns with your preferred narrative. Meanwhile you ignore or downplay the testimony - communicated either direct or through behaviors - of the vast majority of doctors, especially those in the sphere of epidemiology and virology. You ignore that billions have been vaccinated worldwide without the widespread number of side effects these anti-vaxxers are claiming. But sure, let's overstate the musings of one outlier doctor shared by Sebastian freaking Gorka.
October 2, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: But sure, let's overstate the musings of one outlier doctor shared by Sebastian freaking Gorka. To every data set there are outliers. It’s up to the analysts to determine if it needs further research. Point on antibodies seems like a good idea. Could use more research on how long those exposed to COVID compares to vaccine. That said it is costly and problematic to collect all those samples.
October 2, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: To every data set there are outliers. It’s up to the analysts to determine if it needs further research. Point on antibodies seems like a good idea. Could use more research on how long those exposed to COVID compares to vaccine. That said it is costly and problematic to collect all those samples. She makes an assertion that those tests aren't being done, yet as time has worn on we've started to see that very bit of data. People ARE getting tested. We are starting to develop a clearer picture of how long natural and vaccination induced antibodies exist in the body. It's still somewhat murky, but she's putting forth an assertion intended to imply a coverup of some sort. I cannot say for sure, but I'd wager Covid and the antibodies are getting studied and scrutinized more than any other viral infection in the history of mankind. For her to intimate that there's some sort of nefarious thing going on is incredibly irresponsible. And anyone sharing this just looks foolish, because outliers are not what you build a case around. Outliers are what anti-science quacks have always chased after.
October 2, 20214 yr 43 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I have no idea who the doctor is and neither do you. You only share the opinion because it aligns with your preferred narrative. Meanwhile you ignore or downplay the testimony - communicated either direct or through behaviors - of the vast majority of doctors, especially those in the sphere of epidemiology and virology. You ignore that billions have been vaccinated worldwide without the widespread number of side effects these anti-vaxxers are claiming. But sure, let's overstate the musings of one outlier doctor shared by Sebastian freaking Gorka. Just a total coincidence all the links he shares are from sites and people that make prison planet look centrist and sane. Nothing to read into there. Also love that the guy who has been kicking and screaming about monoclonal antibodies not being discussed enough is now all of sudden raging against big pharma making money off of a pill aimed at accomplishing the same thing. The cognitive dissonance is strong with him.
October 2, 20214 yr 32 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Just a total coincidence all the links he shares are from sites and people that make prison planet look centrist and sane. Nothing to read into there. Also love that the guy who has been kicking and screaming about monoclonal antibodies not being discussed enough is now all of sudden raging against big pharma making money off of a pill aimed at accomplishing the same thing. The cognitive dissonance is strong with him. But he's not an antivaxer though.
October 2, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I have no idea who the doctor is and neither do you. You only share the opinion because it aligns with your preferred narrative. Meanwhile you ignore or downplay the testimony - communicated either direct or through behaviors - of the vast majority of doctors, especially those in the sphere of epidemiology and virology. You ignore that billions have been vaccinated worldwide without the widespread number of side effects these anti-vaxxers are claiming. But sure, let's overstate the musings of one outlier doctor shared by Sebastian freaking Gorka. Not "overstating", but am sharing. I have personal experience with manipulation of Covid related data early on in the lockdowns. There were financial incentives for hospitals to classify causes of death as being from Covid, even if that was not the case. When something like this happens, you'd have to be blind not to question the data being generated on this. And forget about the doctor in the video and the Gorka tweet - the first part of the post you responded to really is much more important.
October 2, 20214 yr Here's the post again sans the tweet: 4 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Committing mass ritual suicide out of a sense of loyalty to an incompetent reality game show host. This is America. It's not Trump - you forget that he was heavily pushing vaccine development and supporting vaccines. One of the biggest factors in the push back is that this crisis is perceived as a means for exercise of more government control over our lives and restriction of our freedoms. People do not trust the government or Big Pharm nor the data regarding infection rates, recovery, and vaccine reaction. There is also a lack of trust regarding outright dismissal of the efficacy of cheap, readily available drugs like Ivermectin (used quite effectively in parts of India) and HCQ while pushing for newly developed meds that of course will be patented and very expensive.
October 2, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, Procus said: Here's the post again sans the tweet: It's not Trump - you forget that he was heavily pushing vaccine development and supporting vaccines. One of the biggest factors in the push back is that this crisis is perceived as a means for exercise of more government control over our lives and restriction of our freedoms. People do not trust the government or Big Pharm nor the data regarding infection rates, recovery, and vaccine reaction. There is also a lack of trust regarding outright dismissal of the efficacy of cheap, readily available drugs like Ivermectin (used quite effectively in parts of India) and HCQ while pushing for newly developed meds that of course will be patented and very expensive. Yea so a president who downplayed the severity of the pandemic for 9 months straight, enough to make it part of his followers' identity, would clearly have nothing to do with a majority of them being hesitant to be vaccinated. Must just be some weird coincidence.
October 2, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: cannot say for sure, but I'd wager Covid and the antibodies are getting studied and scrutinized more than any other viral infection in the history of mankind. For her to intimate that there's some sort of nefarious thing going on is incredibly irresponsible. Over the millions who have been infected, how many have actually been tested ? 10%, 50%, just seems we’re leaving a lot of data out there. Yes there are plenty of reports out there, but nothing on the scale it could be. As far as her adding to all the chatter conspiracy theories, yeah she keep her mouth shut. Here’s most recent article I could find. Seems to contradict others I read. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/09/07/1033677208/new-studies-find-evidence-of-superhuman-immunity-to-covid-19-in-some-individuals
October 3, 20214 yr Notice the disclaimer that Twitter felt obligated to attach to this tweet. Twitter also forbids sharing the tweet on twitter and it may delete the tweet, hence the screenshot. I also gave link is to the actual obit. Good morning everybody, and Go Eagles! https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331
October 3, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: On point: Almost as bad as Many Saints of Newark 😄
October 3, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: Almost as bad as Many Saints of Newark 😄 I enjoyed both. One of the two shows set a loftier standard to meet than the other though.
October 3, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: Notice the disclaimer that Twitter felt obligated to attach to this tweet. Twitter also forbids sharing the tweet on twitter and it may delete the tweet, hence the screenshot. I also gave link is to the actual obit. Good morning everybody, and Go Eagles! https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331 Other than needing the vaccine to be a classroom mom for her kids, I don’t see any reason she was mandated to get the vaccine. It wasn’t forced on her. She could have just let her kids go to school alone and turned her attention to other things until they came home. She made the choice. She knew the risks. She weighed the risks and chose to take the risk in order to continue to help hand out juice boxes and glue in the classroom. Unfortunately she’s one of the very very very rare cases that had a bad reaction.
October 3, 20214 yr PFIZER ADDS 2 MORE OUTSIDE FIRMS: Pfizer added two new outside lobbying firms last month as negotiations over drug pricing measures heated up in Washington, including TheGROUP DC, the lobbying shop that includes a former staffer to President Joe Biden and alumni of some of his top administration officials. Sudafi Henry, Biden’s former legislative affairs director from his time as vice president; Eriade Williams, a deputy chief of staff to former Rep. Robert Brady (D-Pa.); and Kwabena Nsiah, a former staffer for now-HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra and top aide to now-White House aide Cedric Richmond, will all lobby on general health care and manufacturing issues for the drugmaker. — Newly filed lobbying disclosures show Pfizer also retained Federal Health Policy Strategies at the start of September to lobby on drug pricing, a major proposed source of revenue for Democrats’ $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. On the contract are Cookab Hashemi, a former top House Democratic aide; Dan Elling, a former staff director for the House Ways and Means Health Subcommittee; and Colin Roskey, a former HHS official and ex-Senate Finance counsel. — The hires add to Pfizer’s already substantial bench of outside lobbying firms, which includes Subject Matter, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, Williams & Jensen, Empire Consulting Group, NVG, BGR Government Affairs, Ogilvy Government Relations, Lincoln Policy Group and about a dozen more, as the company and its industry fellows look to chip away at Democrats’ plans to have the government directly negotiate the prices for medicines — an effort that appears to have had success. (But it’s always nice to have a Plan B in the event your company’s rank and file don’t mount a convincing enough case. "Pfizer adds more lobbying help - POLITICO" https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-influence/2021/10/01/pfizer-adds-more-lobbying-help-797991
October 3, 20214 yr Shams Charania: Golden State’s Andrew Wiggins has been vaccinated and will be available for all games this season.
October 3, 20214 yr Data from England showing that 63% of Covid deaths are among fully vaxxed over past 7.5 months according to Sen. Johnson.
October 3, 20214 yr Show us the aggregate numbers. Johnson's a weasel, I want the actual data, not just cherry picked percentages over an arbitrary period of time intended to imply vaccines aren't incredibly protective against severe disease and death.
October 3, 20214 yr Vaccines work. https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-in-virginia/covid-19-cases-by-vaccination-status/
October 4, 20214 yr Curious. Since the pharmaceuticals have been granted immunity.... "who ya gonna call?" Ironic that the pharmaceuticals also have better immunity than the vaccinated. 😂
October 4, 20214 yr Let's ignore hospitalizations and deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated and focus only on cases now, sure. No cherry picking or lies by omission there.
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