1 hour ago, mr_irie1 said:

A correction issued on Thursday notes that the correct number is 63,000 between August 2020 and October 2021, which means Mandavilli exaggerated the number of child hospitalizations by 837,000 cases. Approximately 500 American children have eventually died from the disease. The exaggeration was included in a report on the debate surrounding whether and how to vaccinate children.

Let's be fair here and agree that there has all sorts of exaggeration and taking stats out of context all over the place with regard to COVID. 

10 hours ago, mr_irie1 said:

https://www.yahoo.com/now/york-times-retracts-massive-exaggeration-163906675.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGixroEHga8jcv2ZMeyRCn-GPNjfSyntpnDFIIIyeagn5gtcrl6O4w_qdqMOSZUP7GgQ6zEOKqqJKtA4bj3T0Wsx5qFA7rVSv6-vl6fVXvlAy-u5zLyUQmedzlsDgL2IM_NPUxQ3GJP4P5CMkYXEHW-xCgH6Y34vGoqVnl6kqN6a&_guc_consent_skip=1633873278

 

New York Times Retracts Massive Exaggeration of Children Hospitalized by COVID-19

Isaac Schorr

Fri, October 8, 2021, 6:39 PM·2 min read

 

 

In an article published by New York Times reporter Apoorva Mandavilli on Wednesday, Times readers were told that "nearly 900,000 children have been hospitalized with COVID-19 since the pandemic began.”

A correction issued on Thursday notes that the correct number is 63,000 between August 2020 and October 2021, which means Mandavilli exaggerated the number of child hospitalizations by 837,000 cases. Approximately 500 American children have eventually died from the disease. The exaggeration was included in a report on the debate surrounding whether and how to vaccinate children.

Mandavilli has been a controversial figure at the Times for her ideologically-colored pandemic coverage. In May, she tweeted that "Someday we will stop talking about the lab leak theory and maybe even admit its racist roots. But alas, that day is not today.” She later deleted the tweet but not before adding "a theory can have racist roots and still gather reasonable supporters along the way. Doesn’t make the roots any less racist or the theory any more convincing, though.”

The theory has not yet been disproved. To the contrary, it has picked up a number of prominent supporters in the scientific community, including former Times reporters Nicholas Wade and Donald McNeil. McNeil was the lead coronavirus reporter at the publication prior to his being fired and smeared by the Times for uttering a racial epithet in the context of discussing its moral valence and grace on an educational trip several years ago.

The correction is notable as the nature of the threat that coronavirus poses to children figures heavily in the continued and often partisan debates over vaccine and mask mandates in schools.

While Republicans such as Florida governor Ron DeSantis maintain that such decisions should be left up to parents, President Joe Biden and American Federation of Teachers head Randi Weingarten have advocated for mandates, insisting that they’re necessary to protect students and staff alike.

In many states and localities across the country, educators were among the first to have the opportunity to be vaccinated. The Food and Drug Administration is presently considering a proposal to authorize the Pfizer vaccine for children from the ages of 5-11, and is expected to meet to discuss the matter on October 26.

That's just dumb on so many levels. Odds of hospitalization for kids is roughly around 1 in 100, so for 900k hospitalizations to make sense, that would mean 90M infected kids which is impossible. Major math and logic fail by the NYT there. 

 

These did take years, you maroon. 

 

12 hours ago, Procus said:

At the end of the day, this is all about whether or not you want to cede control of your lives to unstable mental midgets like the ones who frequent this thread who constantly tell you what you can and can't do.

Anti mask/anti vax people are being controlled like sheep just as much as the loons on the left who are causing airlines to cancel flights, healthcare workers to lose their jobs, and the crap we see at the ports with cargo ships being lined up. People on both sides need to stop finger pointing and get the freaking vax and/or wear a mask while the other side stops destroying civil liberties and destroying our economy. All we are getting instead is digging in by both while the rest of us get screwed. 

4 hours ago, Procus said:

 

Good thing they’ve been working on a coronavirus vaccine for 50 years then!  We almost have it figured out. 

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

 

Anti mask/anti vax people are being controlled like sheep just as much as the loons on the left who are causing airlines to cancel flights, healthcare workers to lose their jobs, and the crap we see at the ports with cargo ships being lined up. People on both sides need to stop finger pointing and get the freaking vax and/or wear a mask while the other side stops destroying civil liberties and destroying our economy. All we are getting instead is digging in by both while the rest of us get screwed. 

If only we had a leader of the free world who didn’t divide the country for 4 years before this pandemic ever got here and then continue his divisiveness long after he was told to take his ball and go home.  

 

1 hour ago, DBW said:

If only we had a leader of the free world who didn’t divide the country for 4 years before this pandemic ever got here and then continue his divisiveness long after he was told to take his ball and go home.  

Started well before Orange Man though of course he took it to new dizzying heights.  In fact he was made possible very much in part because of the division already in place.

4 hours ago, Procus said:

 

Fun fact: There are no facts here. Just words with nothing to back it up.

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The group initially started promoting Marik's discredited sepsis treatment protocol as a treatment for COVID-19, and in April 2020 it circulated press releases promoting vitamin C, heparin, hydroxychloroquine and other drugs, before pivoting to ivermectin promotion in October 2020.

Oh. Well, there you go. They sound like they have a great track record.

Wowx4

Albert, the social media pilot, is perfectly free to go start his own airline with only unvaccinated pilots in a country of his choosing. 

Libs must be really good at these hoaxes to even get Putin to be in on it:

Russian Rocket Facility Suspends Tests To Save Oxygen For COVID Patients

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-rocket-tests-oxygen-covid/31502211.html

lmfao they had to disable audience score for this one. Incredible.   

Looks like ACIP has a meeting scheduled for Nov 2-3, so the earliest Walensky could weigh in would be the 4th I'd imagine. Then with the new vials being shipped out, my guess is no shots for my kids until a couple weeks later.

Can I refuse the COVID-19 vaccine if my employer requires it?

https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/can-i-refuse-the-covid-19-vaccine-if-my-employer-requires-it/

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The only two reasons someone can refuse the shot are if they have a qualifying underlying health condition or deeply held religious beliefs.

However, even those reasons won’t be easy to prove, according to West Virginia employment attorney Richard Walters.

"We’ve seen a little of both come through with some of the employers I represent. One of the underlying health conditions I’ve seen was an individual that received the first shot had an adverse reaction, so her doctor recommended that she not get the second shot. So, she has a doctor backing her up,” Walters said.

If you are trying to get an exemption based on religious beliefs, you can’t just say it. You have to prove you’ve sustained these beliefs consistently.

"For those individuals that are trying to get the deeply held religious [exemption], because of the manner in which the vaccines were developed, what they are starting to find out is the COVID-19 is not the only thing developed in that manner,” Walters said. The attorney said things like ibuprofen and Tylenol would also be in violation of such religious beliefs.

 

On 10/9/2021 at 6:38 PM, Procus said:

He never said that; the quote is bogus.

Phrases like "un-American" were not uttered by founding fathers, not appearing in print until after Rush's death.

"Undercover" was not used at all until the mid-1800s, and didn't come to be defined in the modern sense until the mid-1900s. 

On 10/10/2021 at 9:21 AM, Procus said:

At the end of the day, this is all about whether or not you want to cede control of your lives to unstable mental midgets like the ones who frequent this thread who constantly tell you what you can and can't do.

Yeah, it's all about "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!" not actual science.

That's it.

That is the whole basis for this movement against COVID vaccines. This perception that if you take the vaccine, you're "giving in" to what someone else wants to do.

There's no rational basis. It's purely emotion-driven nonsense that most people grow out of. 

I wouldn't accept it from my teenager. I sure as hell am not buying it from somebody on the internet who claims he has lots of buddies prescribing Ivermectin to congress. 

 

Study saying COVID-19 vaccines cause heart inflammation that was hyped by anti-vaxxers, withdrawn due to miscalculation

https://news.yahoo.com/study-saying-covid-19-vaccines-171043375.html

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By their calculations, the risk of myocarditis was 1 in 1,000 or 0.1%.

However, the numbers used by the study were wrong. The authors largely underestimated the amount of vaccines delivered, giving a number 25 times smaller than the actual amount.

They initially said that the number of vaccines delivered was 32,379 - when it was actually 854,930.

Oh, only exaggerated 25 times the real rate.

I wonder why Kz! & the Dumbswine Band never post the retractions of their lies and misinformation?

13 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

 

Study saying COVID-19 vaccines cause heart inflammation that was hyped by anti-vaxxers, withdrawn due to miscalculation

https://news.yahoo.com/study-saying-covid-19-vaccines-171043375.html

Oh, only exaggerated 25 times the real rate.

I wonder why Kz! & the Dumbswine Band never post the retractions of their lies and misinformation?

Holy ish, the mess-up on those numbers is like NYTimes bad.  

Except a few idiots here used the retracted myocarditis study to bolster their anti-vax arguments while nobody used the retracted NYT article. But yeah, other than that minor detail, the situations are exactly the same.

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Yeah, it's all about "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!" not actual science.

That's it.

I'd argue it's about bodily autonomy. Either we have it or we don't. I'm vaccinated but I find these mandates and firing of people to be abhorrent. 

This will not end with Southwest Airlines - it will spread to other airlines.  Can only imagine the final costs and ramifications of all of this - but hey - that'll show those airline employees who don't want to be told that have to get vaxxed!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/10/business/southwest-cancellations/index.html

Southwest canceled more than 2,000 weekend flights and the disruption continues

By Ramishah Maruf, CNN Business

Updated 11:37 AM ET, Mon October 11, 2021

10 minutes ago, Dawkins 20 said:

I'd argue it's about bodily autonomy. Either we have it or we don't. I'm vaccinated but I find these mandates and firing of people to be abhorrent. 

You've never had bodily autonomy with your employer. You most likely have had a dress code, can't show up drunk, had to pass a drug test to be hired, etc. Explain to me how this is different...