3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I get the feeling that the Eagles are really doing their homework on trade down option WRs.  

Meaning trade down so they don't get any of them?

Caplan just said it's unlikely even Hammler lasts to 53.

6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I didn’t say everyone. Give it one preseason game. As long AB stays quiet, I’m fine committing to a minimal investment 

It’s starting to feel like if the Eagles want to get even one of the top 5 receivers, they’ll have to trade up to get one. Then again that’s how teams that are in front of us get good value in trading down, by putting out misinformation. Kinda like all the chatter about Washington taking a QB with their pick when we all know damn well that isn’t happening. 

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I get the feeling that the Eagles are really doing their homework on trade down option WRs.  

Absolutely, although I think they have done their homework on really all of the top WRs... in this draft, they are in such a bad position in terms of being boxed into having to do something, and everyone knows it.  I'm sure Howie and team hate it, and normally like to go into the draft with positional flexibility, but for various reasons that didn't happen here.

Everyone knows they need to take one of the WRs high, so they are especially vulnerable to other snaking and maneuvering by other teams, and therefore need a very thorough and well thought out plan to respond to a wider range of scenarios.

Great explanation on the negative value oil futures on CNBC. Most of the immediate futures were bought months ago so these are very limited sales.   Texas Railroad Commission (yes, they govern Texas oil production) has proposed a twenty percentage reduction in production around the country. Says a lot about what is happening with the economy with that sort of reduction.  

But on an up note, the State Liquor Stores are open for pickup if you can get through. 

1 minute ago, QuinnWR4 said:

It’s starting to feel like if the Eagles want to get even one of the top 5 receivers, they’ll have to trade up to get one. Then again that’s how teams that are in front of us get good value in trading down, by putting out misinformation. Kinda like all the chatter about Washington taking a QB with their pick when we all know damn well that isn’t happening. 

Doesn't it seem like that every year, though?  The position you may want, you hear about how "everyone will be gone" and every pick at that position is unlikely to last, etc....

While there are many good WRs in this draft, I think it is also likely that several of the teams ahead of the Eagles that want to add a top WR in the draft will decide to take a different position in round 1 because they like the talent at WR they believe will be available in early to mid round 2.  In some cases, the player at another position is substantially better than alternatives on day 2, and so they may prefer to get a WR they like in the second or even third round.

No team is in worse shape at WR than the Eagles... they are truly desperate.  For some teams, adding that offensive lineman or defensive lineman that is a difference maker would have far more impact for them.  For some, an impact LB, S or CB would have more impact.... and there are a few teams that would benefit far more by adding a dynamic running back threat, of which there are a couple like Swift and Taylor.

Wouldn't surprise me if Washington took a QB. They don't exactly have any studs on the roster. Haskins blows and making a dumb pic would be a Washington thing to do.

I don't think it will happen, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Greetings Blog!  This is Kasanova King.  Ace Nova is my new username.  Been meaning to update it for years now so figured this is as good as a time as any.  Welcome everyone. Glad to be here! 

3 minutes ago, JSEagle said:

Haskins blows

He has played 7 games.  How do you know this?

I’m enjoying the speed of the new board. So far it’s at least 2-3x as fast as the old board.  

2 minutes ago, JSEagle said:

Wouldn't surprise me if Washington took a QB. They don't exactly have any studs on the roster. Haskins blows and making a dumb pic would be a Washington thing to do.

I don't think it will happen, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I thought it was hilarious when Rivera brought Newton's backup with him to WAS instead of Newton.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Greetings Blog!  This is Kasanova King.  Ace Nova is my new username.  Been meaning to update it for years now so figured this is as good as a time as any.  Welcome everyone. Glad to be here! 

Piss off, drunk.

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2 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

He has played 7 games.  How do you know this?

By watching him in college and the pros. 

Seemed to do just fine against us, though 😫

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Who are you?

Eagle Plague

1 minute ago, JSEagle said:

Wouldn't surprise me if Washington took a QB. They don't exactly have any studs on the roster. Haskins blows and making a dumb pic would be a Washington thing to do.

I don't think it will happen, but it wouldn't surprise me.

That would shock me.  I don't think Rivera will want to hitch his wagon to Tua, with the risk associated with that, when there is a prospect like Chase Young available.  Chase Young is a rare (at least once in 5, maybe once in 10 year) prospect at a premium position, that can be the cornerstone of a defense.  We know defense is Rivera's expertise -- he wants teams to be strong defensively and be able to run the ball.  He has an existing strong pass rusher in Kerrigan and several good interior defensive players.  Young can be a cornerstone player to build on that looks like he may require double teams all the time like he did in college (where he still compiled 16 sacks in a shorter season).

If he rolls with Haskins, he gets a pass for this year, and gains credibility and trust with the owner who by all accounts drafted Haskins.  He already traded for his former QB as an insurance policy for this year.  Since you don't have a Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck type prospect there at QB, or even a RGIII for that matter, why take that kind of risk?  Take the cornerstone, game changing edge defender.  If Tua had never been hurt, there would be a conversation, but personally I don't think there is any questions about what the Redskins will do.  They are not trading the pick or taking a QB, they are taking Young... if Haskins bombs, and Kyle Allen isn't good enough, they enter the market next year for a QB.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I still haven't gotten my Stimulus check.  Is it because I had an outstanding library book fee from the 1980's?

 

 

 

I have not received mine either. When i log on to check it says status unavailable still. Can’t call the IRS cause no one is there. 

40 minutes ago, Gator 12 said:

Is everyone bringing their post count and likes and such over? I'm debating just starting fresh, new name, new me.

I’m thinking about not doing it

27 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I didn’t say everyone. Give it one preseason game. As long AB stays quiet, I’m fine committing to a minimal investment 

He’s crazy. Give it time and he’ll do something again

 

2 minutes ago, John_C said:

That would shock me.  I don't think Rivera will want to hitch his wagon to Tua, with the risk associated with that, when there is a prospect like Chase Young available.  Chase Young is a rare (at least once in 5, maybe once in 10 year) prospect at a premium position, that can be the cornerstone of a defense.  We know defense is Rivera's expertise -- he wants teams to be strong defensively and be able to run the ball.  He has an existing strong pass rusher in Kerrigan and several good interior defensive players.  Young can be a cornerstone player to build on that looks like he may require double teams all the time like he did in college (where he still compiled 16 sacks in a shorter season).

If he rolls with Haskins, he gets a pass for this year, and gains credibility and trust with the owner who by all accounts drafted Haskins.  He already traded for his former QB as an insurance policy for this year.  Since you don't have a Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck type prospect there at QB, or even a RGIII for that matter, why take that kind of risk?  Take the cornerstone, game changing edge defender.  If Tua had never been hurt, there would be a conversation, but personally I don't think there is any questions about what the Redskins will do.  They are not trading the pick or taking a QB, they are taking Young... if Haskins bombs, and Kyle Allen isn't good enough, they enter the market next year for a QB.

You're right. I think Chase Young should be the pick. Washington has been largely a laughing stock for years now, so them taking another first round QB truly wouldn't surprise me.

If it were me, Young is a no brainer.

We need to realistically look at the needs of the team.

QB  I think they need a back up either in post May free agency or the draft

RB  Eagles need two for roster and at least three for TC

OT. They need a swing T and at least two for TC

G  Can upgrade back up position. Need at least three for TC

C. May actually be set here with four players that can play the position. Upgrade if BPA. Can wait a year.

TE Well positioned for TC but a real third TE would be nice

WR probably two for roster. They have ten but some really don’t belong even as TC fodder   Expect some upgrades  

DE Set here but BPA is always a possibility 

DT  Set here but BOA is always a possibility 

LB. They have five, three of which were UDFA. Need at least one upgrade as I see it.  Need three for TC

S  They have five, three on one year contracts. Three are SS.  I think they need two to make the team. Time to replace Jenkins with value level SS and McLeod with a FS.

CB. Seven bodies, Slay and Maddox.  A lot of one year contracts. Need someone to step up as a #2.  Really like a few late fourth round through sixth round choices this year. Could see no one brought in or a pick and maybe a lucky UDFA or late vet signing. Then again, maybe the off-season training finally delivers for Sydney. 

^ We absolutely need some help at DE. Graham is an old man. Barnett "sucks" (not really, but he still has some improvements to make). Sweat hasn't proven much. Our depth is a little lacking.

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

We need to realistically look at the needs of the team.

QB  I think they need a back up either in post May free agency or the draft

RB  Eagles need two for roster and at least three for TC

OT. They need a swing T and at least two for TC

G  Can upgrade back up position. Need at least three for TC

C. May actually be set here with four players that can play the position. Upgrade if BPA. Can wait a year.

TE Well positioned for TC but a real third TE would be nice

WR probably two for roster. They have ten but some really don’t belong even as TC fodder   Expect some upgrades  

DE Set here but BPA is always a possibility 

DT  Set here but BOA is always a possibility 

LB. They have five, three of which were UDFA. Need at least one upgrade as I see it.  Need three for TC

S  They have five, three on one year contracts. Three are SS.  I think they need two to make the team. Time to replace Jenkins with value level SS and McLeod with a FS.

CB. Seven bodies, Slay and Maddox.  A lot of one year contracts. Need someone to step up as a #2.  Really like a few late fourth round through sixth round choices this year. Could see no one brought in or a pick and maybe a lucky UDFA or late vet signing. Then again, maybe the off-season training finally delivers for Sydney. 

I'm not so sure they're set at DE, but I don't know what else their options are. I'm not flipping picks for Ngakoue and receiver is too much of a need right now. DE this season reminds me of CB going into last season. Everyone was optimistic because they just had a bunch of guys at CB that looked good as a whole and strength in numbers, but if you looked at them individually there were concerns. Graham is 32, Barnett has largely been a disappointment as a first rounder, Sweat showed flashes last year but is still a question, who knows about Miller, and who knows what role Avery will play. They need one of these guys to pop the same way they needed someone like Rasul, Mills, Darby, Sidney, or Maddox to assert themselves last season which didn't happen. 

3 minutes ago, JSEagle said:

^ We absolutely need some help at DE. Graham is an old man. Barnett "sucks" (not really, but he still has some improvements to make). Sweat hasn't proven much. Our depth is a little lacking.

I wouldn't be surprised if the draft plays out something like:

#21 -- WR

#53 -- DE or S

#103 -- G or WR

#127 -- CB or LB

#145/146 -- WR/LB

#168 -- RB

#190 -- OL/DL

34 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Meaning trade down so they don't get any of them?

Caplan just said it's unlikely even Hammler lasts to 53.

This is why you take the legit #1 in Higgins at 21 and then trade up for your speed guy in early round 2. Reagor or Hamler. Whichever you can snag. 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the draft plays out something like:

#21 -- WR

#53 -- DE or S

#103 -- G or WR

#127 -- CB or LB

#145/146 -- WR/LB

#168 -- RB

#190 -- OL/DL

Spot on.

 

What would shock you guys the most? For me it would be a LB in round 1. It just isn't going to happen.

Still think that's more likely than picking a WR in both the first and second.