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EMB Blog: Once AGAIN. Politics to CVON!!!!!

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13 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  Kemp came in and looked at least serviceable.  I guess the rubber band in his arm was wound all the way up.  McMahon was always a slug.  

Mcmahon was a stud at BYU and had his monents in the pros and i think if he plays that whole season maybe thsy win one more game and get ousted in the playoffs. As good as that eagles d was it wasnt as good as bears 85 D and the eagles didnt have sweetness. They had keith byars heath sherman and james joseph😞

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4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Right now as a white person isnt the time to bring up whatabouts. Its time to listen. Riots are the language of the unheard. I dont agree with violence or riots but i try to understand where its coming from and listen. I wonder how many people after Kap knelt that are now saying racism is bad and we need to talk about it were saying the same back then. Were you if not it toon violence and riots for a lot of people to hear to listen. Sad but true😞

I bet Kaep changed literally 0 minds.

People who were racist feel more hatred because of it. It was divisive.

People who were reasonable, non-racist but didn't like the divisive tactic are still not racist,  or maybe have become angered over this.  Because,  again,  it was divisive. So that can actually generate hate. Counterproductive. 

And people on the other extreme who are so crazy liberal that they love being put down by a black person because we owe them for our country's history,  still  obviously aren't racist either. 

Which group changed its mind? I think none.

 

Honestly,  I think this Floyd thing opened a ton of eyes. This could be a real catalyst if people act smart.  Which means no riots and keep kaepernick out of the spotlight. 

This is a big moment.  It really is. Really just about every other police killing black man on video has had another side to the story that excused police completely or to some extent but not this one.  This one is baaaad. This is a true eye opener. 

This is the most unified I have seen people for this cause. There is major momentum like i have not seen.  This I feel can really generate change but the rioters need to stop making distractions.  It won't be long before something completely different steals headlines.  The time needs to be used wisely. 

42 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Ive never agreed with the anthem kneeling.  Many of these guys are millionaires, many of them have huge platforms, they dont need to go to their place of work and send political messages and attract attention to themselves during the national anthem.  It's counter to the standards literally every normal person is held to every day and it's counter to the idea of teamwork and comeraderie. 

No one wants to do this. People knelt because police brutality was a problem that wasn't, and isn't, being addressed. 

Instead of complaining about kneeling for an object, people could have asked local governments for police accountability. But they didn't and would rather argue about protests. So protests continue, more people get hurt and nothing changes.

12 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Yeah, this is pretty much exactly what I'm talking about. If you don't want dialogue, then that's your motive and I'm not going to argue with that. I think dialogue is the most important thing we need right now. Not silence from one side. 

I think there will be plenty of time for dialogue. White people had their chance at dialogue and have for 1000s if years. I think now is the time to listen and support and understand within reasonable limits.

There was a guy during the riots whose business was burned down and a reporter asked him about it and he said something to the effect if, let it burn its just a building, justice is more important.

He has every right to be angry and play the victim and call for justice or vengeance and instead he just listened he heard and tried to understand.

Hes a better man than me.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Honestly,  I think this Floyd thing opened a ton of eyes. This could be a real catalyst if people act smart.  Which means no riots and keep kaepernick out of the spotlight. 

This is a big moment.  It really is. Really just about every other police killing black man on video has had another side to the story that excused police completely or to some extent but not this one.  This one is baaaad. This is a true eye opener. 

This is the most unified I have seen people for this cause. There is major momentum like i have not seen.  This I feel can really generate change but the rioters need to stop making distractions.  It won't be long before something completely different steals headlines.  The time needs to be used wisely. 

Yeah, there has not been one person in support of the cop that did this, and rightfully so. I can't remember a more momentous incident that wasn't even divisive or open to debate. They have this guy dead to rights on camera. It's not a verbal account, it's not someone saying what happened, the entire world saw this. I don't think now is the time for anyone to stray away from the incident at hand and try to be opportunistic with what happened. They need to make an example out of this.    

Just now, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Yeah, there has not been one person in support of the cop that did this, and rightfully so. I can't remember a more momentous incident that wasn't even divisive or open to debate. They have this guy dead to rights on camera. It's not a verbal account, it's not someone saying what happened, the entire world saw this. I don't think now is the time for anyone to stray away from the incident at hand and try to be opportunistic with what happened. They need to make an example out of this.    

Yep

36 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Wrong

Lol I got a great laugh at the demolish them in debates part:roll:

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I bet Kaep changed literally 0 minds.

People who were racist feel more hatred because of it. It was divisive.

People who were reasonable, non-racist but didn't like the divisive tactic are still not racist,  or maybe have become angered over this.  Because,  again,  it was divisive. So that can actually generate hate. Counterproductive. 

And people on the other extreme who are so crazy liberal that they love being put down by a black person because we owe them for our country's history,  still  obviously aren't racist either. 

Which group changed its mind? I think none.

 

Honestly,  I think this Floyd thing opened a ton of eyes. This could be a real catalyst if people act smart.  Which means no riots and keep kaepernick out of the spotlight. 

This is a big moment.  It really is. Really just about every other police killing black man on video has had another side to the story that excused police completely or to some extent but not this one.  This one is baaaad. This is a true eye opener. 

This is the most unified I have seen people for this cause. There is major momentum like i have not seen.  This I feel can really generate change but the rioters need to stop making distractions.  It won't be long before something completely different steals headlines.  The time needs to be used wisely. 

I took a public speaking class in college and our teacher used to tell us people already have made up about 99% of their mind on an issue before one even says a word. Its futile to try and change anothers mind, its not our job to change their mind but give them something to consider and think about changing their view.

Kap gave people a chance to think about something differently than how they previously had, it wasnt about the amount of peoples minds he could change it was about how many people he  could reach to give them an opportunity to think about something differently.

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If our O was any good.  Our D would have been the best ever.   Still one of the best ever.  Chicago had the advantage of a good running game to give their defense a rest.  We had garbage at RB, QB and OL.  But RB wasn’t as big of an issue as OL and QB.  

yup that OL was atrocious, the whole offense was pretty bad and had the offense even been able to generate even an inkling of offense that defense would have even been better.

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Hmmm why is Kap out of the league?  Teams don't want to touch him cause there are a lot more of us who agree with Brees. He was respectful and said his peace. Nothing wrong with that.

Kaepernick is out of the league because he sucks as QB and has only really shown he can play in some evolution of the pistol offense.  He thinks he is better at it than he is and apparently does not take coaching well.  He was benched before he optioned out of SF.  He could have accepted a back up role like Winston, Mariota, Dalton, Foley’s etc. but refused to consider such. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

By the way, I read something today about singer Halsey being half black/white. I never knew that. I guess she received criticism from the black community for never speaking out on issues to support her black heritage. 

She said she is white skinned and does not suffer from the same injustices based on her skin color and can not really fully understand those experiences that people have had to endure. 

Then she said she feels black though she has white skin and having white skin is something that she "came to terms with" and accepted as part of her. And was confused when she was younger whether she should like TLC or Brittany. 

Ummm... that is a completely racist statement to make. Why cant she like both? Why does she have to like one that she sees as the same race as her? Or choose the one with the same skin color? 

This is the type of racism that black people are raised with. Sorry... but its true. It goes both ways. They are racist too. 

No one will ever make big deal about her statement because white people wont complain about it. Its ok for her to say something racist as long as she is speaking as a (half) black woman. That is also a problem that needs to be addressed. But wont. Because we would be racist to bring that up and make a big deal of it. 

This again is another example of the worst kind of dialogue that is completely counterproductive to the cause of the peaceful protesters. Your posts do belong in CVON. They are complete trash that make it impossible to move forward with any meaningful discussion.

One thing that needs to change and probably never will is one race sticking up only for their race.  Blacks defending blacks and whites defending whites without knowing circumstances.  Blacks have to know when to call out their own and whites need to do the same.  Not all people are like this but it's an issue for me.

It makes me happy that there have been many white people at these protests standing up for what they believe in.

The people looting, stealing, damaging property are not protesters.  Those people are criminals and should be arrested.  I wouldn't care if they were shot dead either.  If I owned a store, I'd wait inside for them to break in and greet them with a surprise.

On 5/25/2020 at 8:21 AM, ManuManu said:

 

Duce also gets to run team meetings from time to time. 

 

On 5/25/2020 at 8:21 AM, ManuManu said:

 

Duce also gets to run team meetings from time to time. 

 

6 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I took a public speaking class in college and our teacher used to tell us people already have made up about 99% of their mind on an issue before one even says a word. Its futile to try and change anothers mind, its not our job to change their mind but give them something to consider and think about changing their view.

Kap gave people a chance to think about something differently than how they previously had, it wasnt about the amount of peoples minds he could change it was about how many people he  could reach to give them an opportunity to think about something differently.

He really really didn't.  More people debated the offensiveness of it than anyone taking about his supposed actual intent.  It was a stupid tactic at best for creating that debate as a major distraction right off the bat.  At worst,  it genuinely was offensive.  Either way,  it was extremely ineffective compared to almost anything else he possibly could have done. 

I finally got around to that Roy Halladay E60. What a tough watch. 

Give me a break

The riots and vandalism and stealing

Is all about thugs period

Stealing shoe clothes and phones 

Is what criminals do

There's a right way and wrong way

The peaceful protests will be heard louder than the violence 

The violence is just going to anger more people

Just now, ManuManu said:

I finally got around to that Roy Halladay E60. What a tough watch. 

It was super insightful though. Like a ton of things i had no clue about. Like i respect him way more towards the end of his career for pitching with what he was dealing with and trying to give his everything to the Phillies. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He really really didn't.  More people debated the offensiveness of it than anyone taking about his supposed actual intent.  It was a stupid tactic at best for creating that debate as a major distraction right off the bat.  At worst,  it genuinely was offensive.  Either way,  it was extremely ineffective compared to almost anything else he possibly could have done. 

I disagree, i didnt find it offensive at all and the single act generated dialogue and was effective in the sense that other players like Malcolm jenkins and other players could continue that dialogue in different ways.

If it was so in effective no one would be talking about it, they wouldnt of had whole teams going out and kneeling together. If it was so in effective the president wouldnt have said anything against it.

Him kneeling was a big deal to a lot of people on both sides and all those in the middle.

My dad hates sports and football and thinks its a waste of time, and even he brought it up to me and asked me what i thought.

It got even the most casual observer involved in the conversation.

@HazletonEagle, you gone too far bro.  I really didn't want to bring this up but I can't hold my tongue any longer.

When you post a name like Halsey, you make an assumption that everyone reading here knows who that is.

If you have any guts at all, you will post a pic or 2 for those of us who don't follow the latest trends.

I'm sick and tired of feeling out of the loop in this blog with things like this.

 

Preferably shots taken from the back, please. 

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I disagree, i didnt find it offensive at all and the single act generated dialogue and was effective in the sense that other players like Malcolm jenkins and other players could continue that dialogue in different ways.

If it was so in effective no one would be talking about it, they wouldnt of had whole teams going out and kneeling together. If it was so in effective the president wouldnt have said anything against it.

Him kneeling was a big deal to a lot of people on both sides and all those in the middle.

My dad hates sports and football and thinks its a waste of time, and even he brought it up to me and asked me what i thought.

It got even the most casual observer involved in the conversation.

I heard someone say it the other day and it's probably very true.  When we look back 10-20 years from now, Kap will be looked at in a more positive light.  More people will recognize that he helped bring attention to a problem.  I never cared that he kneeled during the anthem.  To me it wasnt a big deal.  I knew what his intention was by doing so.

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I heard someone say it the other day and it's probably very true.  When we look back 10-20 years from now, Kap will be looked at in a more positive light.  More people will recognize that he helped bring attention to a problem.  I never cared that he kneeled during the anthem.  To me it wasnt a big deal.  I knew what his intention was by doing so.

Yup. I dont think anyone is going to mistake him for MLK or even Malcolm X, but he started a conversation that was minimized and as an indirect result here we are. 

29 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Kaepernick is out of the league because he sucks as QB and has only really shown he can play in some evolution of the pistol offense.  He thinks he is better at it than he is and apparently does not take coaching well.  He was benched before he optioned out of SF.  He could have accepted a back up role like Winston, Mariota, Dalton, Foley’s etc. but refused to consider such. 

I've said the whole time that Foles set the path for what Kaepernick should have done. Settle for a backup role since the demand for him getting a starting job at the time was non-existent. Get some snaps in preseason and maybe during the season if the starter gets hurt/benched. Show that you can still play by winning games and then cash in with another team for a starting gig. Exactly what Foles did. 

I'm of the belief that Kaepernick has never wanted to play football again. He wanted to be viewed as this oppressed symbol and he's cashed in significantly for it, all at the same time doing actual good stuff for the cause. That's fine, but don't try to pull the wool over people's eyes that you want to play again.  

Click on the tweet and read his entire thread. It’s worth it. 

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

Yes, but once you’ve done that you have a great tool, No one who uses spices seriously goes without one. Crush your spices in it, bloom them, and you’re a kitchen god,.

Marble or granite?  Any reason not to go stainless steel?  

22 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I heard someone say it the other day and it's probably very true.  When we look back 10-20 years from now, Kap will be looked at in a more positive light.  More people will recognize that he helped bring attention to a problem.  I never cared that he kneeled during the anthem.  To me it wasnt a big deal.  I knew what his intention was by doing so.

I really didn’t have a problem with him kneeling for what his cause was. It never offended me or did i think it did the flag. However i had issues with him wearing the Castro shirt and pig socks. I think one of the issues people had with him after he got cut in SF was him claiming the nfl solely didn’t give him another contract or job because of the kneeling. he had offers but he really thought he was better than what they were offering when his performance by the end of his SF tenure wasn’t very good. I believe the ravens were going to offer him and his GF posted something about the owner and ray Lewis being slave master  

(preference this with I haven’t seen him out there during there protests— tried to find some pictures but haven’t come across any)i think some people’s issue with kaepernick in the moment is he should be out there like we saw from jenkins, jaylen brown, trey young and a bunch of other athletes with the protestors. It is a nice gesture he set up to pay legal fees of protestors but he wanted to be the one to take charge of this movement And make a change then be out there with people fighting for what you brought to light 

 

Just saw Drew Brees completely pissed off 3/4's of his locker room.

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