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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nobody is panicking. I’m just alone, once again, questioning these draft picks. Traded out if one first rounder(yet many ready to judge this team regardless). But Jergens has sone legit question marks to ponder here. He wasn’t my first choice. We’ll see how he looks against pros on the PS. Problems with your feet is serious. Still learning to snap if you only got drafted to play C in the NFL is a problem. We could use him to play G first. But he doesn’t have much strength for that position. Just bringing up what I’d consider to be the obvious. Some  reason nobody else here seems at all concerned with any of that.

Maybe he turns out to be another Dickerson except on the right side,is that so bad???? Kelce is crazy about him as his replacement

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5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nobody is panicking. I’m just alone, once again, questioning these draft picks. Traded out if one first rounder(yet many ready to judge this team regardless). But Jergens has sone legit question marks to ponder here. He wasn’t my first choice. We’ll see how he looks against pros on the PS. Problems with your feet is serious. Still learning to snap if you only got drafted to play C in the NFL is a problem. We could use him to play G first. But he doesn’t have much strength for that position. Just bringing up what I’d consider to be the obvious. Some  reason nobody else here seems at all concerned with any of that.

BTW he's out there praciting,so whatever the injury it's not keeping him off the field

Trying out Harrar at TE also

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23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OH so he simply MUST remain in that shell,labelled and boxed in? Please. Like college kids have nothing more to learn? I'll use him on a 3rd and long pass rush all day

I don’t want to label him as can’t do it …so much. But it is clearly a concern that Georgia took him off the field on those downs. There were better looking pass rush options that normally we would have gone for first. I hope he can evolve that part of his game. I don’t think he was drafted that high on his pass rush however. I think we moved up early in the first round to get a run stopper. That’s not the norm for us in any way, shape or form. Going heavy after LB is not our norm either. All for a DC that everyone expects to be short term. A NT and pass rush LBs was the offseason plan. I’ll judge on how it pays off. A bit skeptical. I had other thoughts but will let it play out to see it implemented to fully judge.

28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t want to label him as can’t do it …so much. But it is clearly a concern that Georgia took him off the field on those downs. There were better looking pass rush options that normally we would have gone for first. I hope he can evolve that part of his game. I don’t think he was drafted that high on his pass rush however. I think we moved up early in the first round to get a run stopper. That’s not the norm for us in any way, shape or form. Going heavy after LB is not our norm either. All for a DC that everyone expects to be short term. A NT and pass rush LBs was the offseason plan. I’ll judge on how it pays off. A bit skeptical. I had other thoughts but will let it play out to see it implemented to fully judge.

Lots of run stuffers in that draft. No need to move for one,but this kid is far and away a better athlete than the rest and I suspect we got him to teach him new things. Don't care he came off on 3rd downs in college. Pros are a whole different animal and it would be tough for me to assume we moved up and gave up draft assets for a 2 down guy in round 1

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t want to label him as can’t do it …so much. But it is clearly a concern that Georgia took him off the field on those downs. There were better looking pass rush options that normally we would have gone for first. I hope he can evolve that part of his game. I don’t think he was drafted that high on his pass rush however. I think we moved up early in the first round to get a run stopper. That’s not the norm for us in any way, shape or form. Going heavy after LB is not our norm either. All for a DC that everyone expects to be short term. A NT and pass rush LBs was the offseason plan. I’ll judge on how it pays off. A bit skeptical. I had other thoughts but will let it play out to see it implemented to fully judge.

Ham, Georgia had like 7 D-Lineman that could all start. So, what they did was spread out the snaps so all could play and be fresh. Seems a no brainer that Davis played mainly on run downs as he was best at it. I am not sure if he will be OK with rushing the passer or not, but I would not assume he cannot do it just because Georgia did not use him as such. Heck, how many D-Players got drafted from that team?

40 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t want to label him as can’t do it …so much. But it is clearly a concern that Georgia took him off the field on those downs. There were better looking pass rush options that normally we would have gone for first. I hope he can evolve that part of his game. I don’t think he was drafted that high on his pass rush however. I think we moved up early in the first round to get a run stopper. That’s not the norm for us in any way, shape or form. Going heavy after LB is not our norm either. All for a DC that everyone expects to be short term. A NT and pass rush LBs was the offseason plan. I’ll judge on how it pays off. A bit skeptical. I had other thoughts but will let it play out to see it implemented to fully judge.

I'm liking that we can throw different D looks at teams(34,43,52,wide 9) who will be forced to adjust,then we can switch it up again. Keeping teams off balance helps alot

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46 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lots of run stuffers in that draft. No need to move for one,but this kid is far and away a better athlete than the rest and I suspect we got him to teach him new things. Don't care he came off on 3rd downs in college. Pros are a whole different animal and it would be tough for me to assume we moved up and gave up draft assets for a 2 down guy in round 1

So it sounds like you’re with me here somewhat

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So it sounds like you’re with me here somewhat

Just posted a link.Noone is talking,it seems to me we will present a hybrid defense that we can change up as often as we need to. Should be interesting to see this new look

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I think having the run stuffer in the middle will allow Gannon to play two high S.

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1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Just posted a link.Noone is talking,it seems to me we will present a hybrid defense that we can change up as often as we need to. Should be interesting to see this new look

Sounds mostly 3-4 principle to me. NT and rush LBs….hmmmm….seems fairly obvious.

Like I was saying I think we’ll see more 5-2 looks also.

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The questions arise mostly with the Secondary. Nickle is everybodies Base D now. Harris hasn’t impressed me but at least he’s a grizzled vet that is versatile….at being mediocre, but whatever. Epps playing FS I’m good with. Need another guy back there to run two high S looks. Figuring maybe Gannon can use some hybrid DBs to mix in some ways. That’s the big question marks on the plans to me. Think Gowan maybe wins the other outside job. Then can use McPherson in some versatile hybrid roles.

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Seems the plan is leaning heavy on having a rush LB over an extra DB on the field according to our personnel moves.

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2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm liking that we can throw different D looks at teams(34,43,52,wide 9) who will be forced to adjust,then we can switch it up again. Keeping teams off balance helps alot

I’ve always heard the saying Jack-of-all-trades….but master at none. That would be my concern. I like guys playing fast without hesitation. They’re professionals so maybe we haven’t been asking enough of them. We’ll see.

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We start off with the Lions. Darn it. Week one is such a crap shoot. Rather have one if the more formidable opponents week one. Could really hurt to lose to the Lions. Never know what team will show up for us week one each season.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Trying out Harrar at TE also

We only keep 3 and already have like 5.... Not sure why we bother. I liked the three we had last year, although 1 was injured most of the year.....

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The draft pick we got is really talented pass catcher. Stoll really locked in that blocker role. Goedert clear cut starter. But you gotta prepare for injury. JJAW brings versatility in being a great ST/ emergency WR and TE. So he could find his way on the squad. He would actually dress on Gameday with all his jobs he can cover……if he actually makes the squad.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The draft pick we got is really talented pass catcher. Stoll really locked in that blocker role. Goedert clear cut starter. But you gotta prepare for injury. JJAW brings versatility in being a great ST/ emergency WR and TE. So he could find his way on the squad. He would actually dress on Gameday with all his jobs he can cover……if he actually makes the squad.

We need emergency WR's?? Jjaw had his shot,he either cuts it as a TE or I say goodbye

19 minutes ago, stine said:

We only keep 3 and already have like 5.... Not sure why we bother. I liked the three we had last year, although 1 was injured most of the year.....

Welp if you can improve #3 you do it. So #3 whomever that may be must not impress much

49 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think having the run stuffer in the middle will allow Gannon to play two high S.

S is our biggest weakness,be careful what you wish for

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sounds mostly 3-4 principle to me. NT and rush LBs….hmmmm….seems fairly obvious.

Like I was saying I think we’ll see more 5-2 looks also.

Depends who we play,we can game plan a 34 or 43 depending on the opponent

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He didn’t pass rush though

You get that trend? On third and long he came off the field.

No,I don't get that trend. NFL is a whole new game. The trend is getting guys that can play multiple roles and what they did in college has nothing to do with the fact they can be taught to play different roles and why we got "athletic" guys in, not "OH he's merely a run stuffer". AND LB's that also can play multiple roles if we want them to

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He can pass rush, he WANTS to pass rush, I HOPE we LET HIM pass rush(see a trend here?)

He is just a hard worker. The kind of guy you root for and just know he will improve.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He didn’t pass rush though

You get that trend? On third and long he came off the field.

What was the context of that?    I saw that a lot had to do with Georgia showing that their top recruits get playing time early in their careers rather than just playing the older guys.  

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