Once we turned towards the committee…in real need….Gainwell did squat in Zona.

You preached that since Siposs hadn’t screwed up yet he was just fine….then he screwed up and cost us the trophy .

Preached that our running QB couldn’t win in the postseason….until he looked like the main way for us to win.

Preached the running game was all Oline instead of needing a quality runner. Yet in the SB without the quality runner the RB was pathetic.

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Once we turned towards the committee…in real need….Gainwell did squat in Zona.

The Eagles scored 28.1 points in the regular season.   35 per game in the playoffs. 

They lost a Superbowl where the other team scored 38... with missing a FG and refusing to score a TD at the end in order to waste time.

Between their only 2 punts they were gifted 7 points by Hurts. 

Their 7th round cheap RB had 75 yards on 15 carries.  

But yeah... the Eagles RBs were the reason for the loss.   Makes a lot of sense. 

Marshawn Lynch won a Superbowl.... only top RB to do it since " greatest show on turf"  ...  kinda had a decent QB and defense though.

But regardless... a whole generation of football... where the RB position hasn't been impactful towards team success.   At least having a top guy.

"But No Mas....CMC in SF"   ... congrats.  Team was already stacked and seems like Carolina did better without him? 

The Eagles have had the best team success since Howie has come back and completely changed the philosophy of avoiding the investment in the RBs.   

Shady McCoy.....zero playoff wins... Sign Murray to a disaster season.    Stop that BS... and it's miraculous that the team has had success.   Stick with it.  Keep winning.  

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The Eagles scored 28.1 points in the regular season.   35 per game in the playoffs. 

They lost a Superbowl where the other team scored 38... with missing a FG and refusing to score a TD at the end in order to waste time.

Between their only 2 punts they were gifted 7 points by Hurts. 

Their 7th round cheap RB had 75 yards on 15 carries.  

But yeah... the Eagles RBs were the reason for the loss.   Makes a lot of sense. 

Pachenko was better than Gainwell. You endlessly said how our Oline was the best…so it can’t be the Chiefs Oline was so much better. If we had a healthy Sanders rushing….Mahomes probably doesn’t have the opportunity to put up such points. But sure….use averages and big picture numbers to try to explain away exactly my point of…in the one real game we needed the RB to win….we didn’t have it…and lost. Oline was there. No Rb was.

You just can’t have the foresight to envision any other way to do things than copycatting. Sad. Very tough way to go about getting to the top is trying to do it somebody else way or path. We are getting things done by our own path. With that "Running QB” that you didn’t even think should be our starter one year ago today.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pachenko was better than Gainwell. You endlessly said how our Oline was the best…so it can’t be the Chiefs Oline was so much better. If we had a healthy Sanders rushing….Mahomes probably doesn’t have the opportunity to put up such points. But sure….use averages and big picture numbers to try to explain away exactly my point of…in the one real game we needed the RB to win….we didn’t have it…and lost. Oline was there. No Rb was.

If & healthy. Keywords as to another reason why it's not worth it to overpay for a RB. Hard for them to stay healthy all year. They take a lot of abuse. 

Not only did you not believe Hurts was a starter…but you insisted he couldn’t win in the postseason…because teams in the playoffs would magically figure out all the sudden that he runs.

Just now, EaglesTD123 said:

If & healthy. Keywords as to another reason why it's not worth it to overpay for a RB. Hard for them to stay healthy all year. They take a lot of abuse. 

Need two good ones. That’s what I’ve been saying.

Other than this philosophy of it’s all Oline and the Rb doesn’t matter. In the SB we saw exactly why the RB does matter. Had the best Oline but the RB faltered.

No Mas points to Pachenko being cheap. That is great for them. But Pachenko beat out the higher investment guys ahead of him(first and third rounder). Kid can play. We had a sixth round pick C show up really well for us. Should that mean we shouldn’t draft Oline high because Kelce is HOF?

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Need two good ones. That’s what I’ve been saying.

Yes, as long as you're not breaking the bank for them. 

Just now, EaglesTD123 said:

Yes, as long as you're not breaking the bank for them. 

Not all about breaking the bank for RBs. But then again if you have the cap room you can afford to spend much more than we have been spending at the position. To me it’s do whatever you need to get the job done. RBs are the cheapest position to spend on. You know other than P and long snapper. But even a cheap position like P….you still need competition and get that job done.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pachenko was better than Gainwell. You endlessly said how our Oline was the best…so it can’t be the Chiefs Oline was so much better. If we had a healthy Sanders rushing….Mahomes probably doesn’t have the opportunity to put up such points. But sure….use averages and big picture numbers to try to explain away exactly my point of…in the one real game we needed the RB to win….we didn’t have it…and lost. Oline was there. No Rb was.

Right..the 7th round committee RB had a decent SB... not one for the ages like you make it seem.  15 carries 75 yards.

37 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right..the 7th round committee RB had a decent SB... not one for the ages like you make it seem.  15 carries 75 yards.

There was no committee. Unless you are using any backup getting reps in the loosest possible terms to try and combine that for committee. Clyde Edwards-Helaire was the starter to begin the season. Went for 300 yards and 3 TDs last season. Pacheco took over half way through the season. Went for 850 and 5 TDs. That’s not a committee. That’s a young guy taking over the job from the established vet. 

40 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right..the 7th round committee RB had a decent SB... not one for the ages like you make it seem.  15 carries 75 yards.

What committee? I don’t think Pacheco’s performance was one for the ages either. But it was easily enough to be a difference in a three point game. Gainwell had 7 carries for 21 yards. That’s a paltry 3 yards per carry against a mediocre run defense. Obviously having the best Oline wasn’t enough to carry the rushing attack with a mediocre RB like Gainwell even against a D that was nothing even special against the run.

Pacheco went for over 5 yards a carry. It seems very obvious to me your theories aren’t adding up here on the Rb rushing situation front. We had the better D. We had the better Oline. Yet the better RB was more effective in the game. Can’t ask for a more obvious scenario that exactly played out our last game to prove your theories wrong on how to run the ball effectively. Best Oline didn’t provide the best Rb rushing. That’s even with having an advantage of our Oline going against a weaker run D than they had to face in ours. So obviously just played out in a scenario that cost us the Lombardi. Yet even fresh off that hindsight you still can’t see it.

Just like how your P theory backfired so devastatingly on you. All season you tried to use huge big picture stats to negate the importance of the job. Just stating how I didn’t matter because he hadn’t screwed up big. Just looking at whole season averages and total stats to just belittle the job down to it just amounting to a few less yards each P when compared league wide. But then in the big game…he choked. Low line drive short duck with no air time that wasn’t even directional. Returned down to our five yard line…by a guy that’s never even had a return before in his career.

All those while seasonstar numbers and averages really don’t mean squat in the end. Came down to one game. Pretty much the whole season was just about beating the Chiefs in the SB. Failed! Didn’t matter how much the rushing stats could be lifted romping on a terrible Giants run D. Just mattered about what happened in that one big game. Couldn’t get the punting job done …in the practically only game that mattered. Just any RB couldn’t get it done behind the best Oline …in that just one game that mattered.

Exactly why you bashed me for negativity on a 10-0 team. Seemed very obvious that what really mattered was how things went down in that one…maybe two big games at the end. Season stats and averages meant diddly. All that mattered in the end was what happened in the SB. That fabulously dominant team that was 10-0 had tons to complain about in their performance i the one game that mattered. What I was looking ahead towards the whole time.

It’s like somehow we flipped standards. 2021 the team needed some luck and injury to win the Lombardi. I got attacked and bashed because I realized this. I was the seemingly only optimistic one in 2021. Was proud of what that team accomplished. They weren’t winning it all without some serious luck from referees or starting QBs going down to injury. Many here hated and bashed me for understanding the position that squad was in. Saying how it wasn’t good enough to need luck to win the SB that season. But then we had a great opportunity to have a standard for last year’s squad to win it all. All the sudden the same fans that poo pooed the reality of the ceiling for the 2021 squad….they became complacent about a 2022 squad that had the great opportunity to go all the way. A scrappy 2021 squad that was just fighting to make the playoffs they slam and belittle by any means possible. But somehow they absolutely embrace a 2022 squad and season that the sky was the limit on for many things that just aren’t really what’s important. 10-0 wasn’t what was important. Putting up season long D stats wasn’t important. Scoring however many points a game wasn’t what was important. What was important was getting the job done. I got bashed for loving rooting for and embracing a team in 2021 that could only really achieve scrapping their way to actually making the playoffs. I was proud of that effort. They couldn’t beat that Bucs team in the postseason. But those guys achieved practically everything they were capable of. What did 10-0 really do for the 2022 squad? I always enjoy winning each Sunday. But that was the golden opportunity for the big parade. THE GOAL IS WIN THE SB. Is it not? They failed. Just wasn’t good enough. Whole season….whole time…was just coming down to two crucial games. NFC Championship  Game versus Niners. SB versus the best AFC team. Fairly predictably was the Chiefs. I’m disappointed. Maybe I’m the only one here that is. But it was there for the taking. Especially once Reddick took out Purdy. I honestly believe last season was our best and easiest opportunity to win it all…I’ve ever known. We should have earned a parade. 

But what I can’t do is just pat everybody on the back about starting 10-0 last year. Act like winning week three like we did was what was the most important. I think Hurts gets us to the SB with any record that was enough to qualify for the playoffs. We had an overall more talented team than KC. We didn’t lose because they were just too good. But brushing what happened in the SB under the rug of what weaknesses reared their head is the worst possible outcome here. Top rushing team couldn’t get production for the RB room when it mattered. Gotta wake up. There was no RB committee last season. Sanders is a playmaking RB. Definitely agree he benefitted from a great run blocking Oline. Chiefs weren’t some juggernaut run stopping team. The imagined ‘committee’ failed. No Sanders equaled 3 yards a carry …against the freaking Chiefs man. Once forced to turn towards the ‘committee’ Gainwell carried for only 3 yards a pop…21 freaking yards.

Gannon had a very talented D. But that SB performance wasn’t nearly good enough. Am I the only the fan here that sees things and understands it this way? Having a statistical top D during the regular season is all fine and dandy. But what truely matters is how they perform in the clutch big moments.