2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

The metric system is so logical, it's wild to me that America hasn't adopted it. But, we also mix and match when we like up here. Often we use lbs and feet/inches when describing people's height/weight (but on our official ID it's in centimetres and kilograms). 

I agree about the Metric system, and I have a lot of friends in the Hamilton, Toronto area as well as some in Vaqncouver, PE and Montreal.   I used to spend a decent amount of time in Canada each year. Been as far north as Flower Pot Isle and the grey bruce Peninsula. I like it up there, but man your mosquitos and black flys are horrible in the summer. 

And not thrilled with your fuel prices either.

I used to ship friends all kinds of stuff you cant getthere, for instance, one freind love Trix cereal... LOL I would ship a case at a time. Lots of times they come to the US just to shop. 

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

You don't know sarcasm though..........

No I know, I was agreeing, not sure who called him a pillar at first, my point was it doesnt matter. 

13 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Announcing it during the post World Series + not waiting to see legal process play out = he f’ed up big time. Guessing they found out what he was on or his BAC level.

Yes.

Hey I wonder what's going on in the blog toda...

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

It was sarcasm....one of his pals and fella troll morons defended him this morning by calling him a "pillar" of the blog on a message board....of all things.  

yeah I knew that, I was just offering it doesn't matter if he built the freaking MB, a bad take is still a bad take. 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

I agree about the Metric system, and I have a lot of friends in the Hamilton, Toronto area as well as some in Vaqncouver, PE and Montreal.   I used to spend a decent amount of time in Canada each year. Been as far north as Flower Pot Isle and the grey bruce Peninsula. I like it up there, but man your mosquitos and black flys are horrible in the summer. 

And not thrilled with your fuel prices either.

I used to ship friends all kinds of stuff you cant getthere, for instance, one freind love Trix cereal... LOL I would ship a case at a time. Lots of times they come to the US just to shop. 

No I know, I was agreeing, not sure who called him a pillar at first, my point was it doesnt matter. 

Haha as an avid camper, yeah, they can be. We even have songs about them, preserved by our government for cultural heritage, no less:

 

13 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

Crazy how quickly life can change.  

One second this guy is a young, star athlete and millionaire.  In the blink of an eye all that is gone.  Such a waste.

I was thinking about it more from the perspective of the victim of the accident.  One second, driving home with her dog.   We don't need to get into what happens next.

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

As an outsider....I think the 2nd amendment is incredibly stupid in modern society. It made sense 200 years ago, but times change. 

This is where we disagree.  The 2nd amendment is a freedom, one you do not have and should any tyrannical government or other country actually invade your country, you would wish you too were armed. However unlikely that may be, it is more unlikely to happen when the citizens are well armed. 

8 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I don't recall Rodgers' cadence being as whispery and monotone as it's been lately. I've just chalked it up to the NFL not caring much about weed anymore.

It could be both. 

I can't believe Ruggs is walking around right now. I guess the Corvette being low to the ground hitting a Rav4 had something to do with it, but i'm not a physicist 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

This is where we disagree.  The 2nd amendment is a freedom, one you do not have and should any tyrannical government or other country actually invade your country, you would wish you too were armed. However unlikely that may be, it is more unlikely to happen when the citizens are well armed. 

I mean, we have an army? So do you. If another country actually invaded, I'd leave it to the army to defend us. We also have alliances (as do you) with other countries that would also help with defending us. 

When was the last tyrannical government that needed to be overthrown by gun wielding citizens in western society? 

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

They'd sue the assaulter, and win. If they tried to drag the bar into that lawsuit, I don't think they'd be liable for anything (you only pay if you're found to be at least 1% liable). 

The bar's business is serving alcohol and getting people drunk. They owe a duty of care to everybody else to ensure their patrons aren't drinking and driving after getting drunk at their establishment. The person drinking and driving is of course ultimately responsible, no debate there. But in law, the bar is also partly responsible for him as soon as they agreed to serve him. 

They most assuredly would sue their employer if they were injured on the job my friend. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I was thinking about it more from the perspective of the victim of the accident.  One second, driving home with her dog.   We don't need to get into what happens next.

I don’t even wanna know why the girl had her dog in the car at 3:30 in the morning because I have a terrible feeling that she was coming home from the pet hospital with her dog. Because I have been in that position before where I had to take my dog late in the night because something was going on. the pet hospital is the only vet open and got out like 4 o’clock in the morning and drove home with him in the car

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Haha as an avid camper, yeah, they can be. We even have songs about them, preserved by our government for cultural heritage, no less:

 

yeah it didn't matter if I had a head net on or not... just brutal. The locals would have misquitos bitting their face and never flinch. LOL

Beautiful area.   Friends go to Algonquin  every year for a month. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I can't believe Ruggs is walking around right now. I guess the Corvette being low to the ground hitting a Rav4 had something to do with it, but i'm not a physicist 

Yep; if the reports are true, decelerating from 156 to 124 would cause the nose of his car to dip under the rear of the Rav4. Usually if there's a trailer hitch, youll see no damage to an SUV while the low profile car's hood looks like an accordion. At that speed though, forget about it. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I can't believe Ruggs is walking around right now. I guess the Corvette being low to the ground hitting a Rav4 had something to do with it, but i'm not a physicist 

Where’s mcmahonsheadband he’s the professor frink of the board. 

8 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

As an outsider....I think the 2nd amendment is incredibly stupid in modern society. It made sense 200 years ago, but times change. 

 

No, times don't change.  It is needed today and will be needed in the future as much as it was 200 years ago.  It's there for the people to keep the government in check from overstepping their bounds. 

20 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Any chance Claypool is available for a trade this off-season?  I've heard grumblings that he's not happy.  If so what would fair compensation be?

Les Claypool wants to leave Primus? 

4 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

A list I found on the world wide web...

1. Derek Stingley Jr., LSU
2. Kaiir Elam, Florida
3. Andrew Booth Jr., Clemson
4. Roger McCreary, Auburn
5. Trent McDuffie, Washington
6. Ahmad Gardner, Cincinnati
7. Mykael Wright, Oregon
8. Noah Daniels, TCU
9. Tiawan Mullen, Indiana
10a. Josh Jobe, Alabama
10b. Derion Kendrick, Georgia

Must be one helluva big spider.

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

yeah it didn't matter if I had a head net on or not... just brutal. The locals would have misquitos bitting their face and never flinch. LOL

Beautiful area.   Friends go to Algonquin  every year for a month. 

Lol, eventually you just....get used to them. Some people I think develop immunity to the bites. Skeeters aren't even the worst really, its the black flies when they start biting early spring, there's just so many and they crawl everywhere. Late season horse and deer flies suck more than skeeters too. 

Rodgers getting immunized 

10 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

As an outsider....I think the 2nd amendment is incredibly stupid in modern society. It made sense 200 years ago, but times change. 

As an insider, I think not having the right to bear arms is incredibly stupid.

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

I mean, we have an army? So do you. If another country actually invaded, I'd leave it to the army to defend us. We also have alliances (as do you) with other countries that would also help with defending us. 

When was the last tyrannical government that needed to be overthrown by gun wielding citizens in western society? 

And If that army fails?, when they actually put boots on the ground, dont underestimate what armed civilians protecting their home lands can do, Vietnam showed us that. 

 

I am not sure, I know ours was just a scant 245 years ago.  And most societies collapse before they hit 500 years. 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

No, times don't change.  It is needed today and will be needed in the future as much as it was 200 years ago.  It's there for the people to keep the government in check from overstepping their bounds. 

Oh ya? Did Thomas Jefferson post the first blog on the internet back in the day? 

34 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

The 2nd amendment was not written so the people could use guns to hunt. It was written as a means to give the people an ability to resist tyranny should the government forget they are for the people by the people.......  Lets not forget the intent, it still stands.  The comma between a well regulated militia and the last part the right of the people to bear arms indicates it is two different thoughts included in that statement. A well regulated malitia and the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. 

 

 

 

 

Every person has the responsibility to drink responsibly. Just like gun ownership. 

Historically, reading the amendment separately from the militia and the right to bear arms individually is a recent development in case law.   That said, since you put it in an historical perspective and I like to discuss history, let’s do so.   When the British marched on Concord, the purpose was to seize a cache of arms in the town.  The colonialists were in the habit of storing the town powder and weapons in Powderhouses as gunpowder was volatile and not to be stored in homes. Those colonists had lost grandparents in King Phillip’s War and weren’t that removed from the French and Indian War, twenty four years prior.  While the British viewed the weaponry as a threat to armed rebellion, the colonists viewed these as weapons of protection.  Such protection most often in the form of local militia, like the Minutemen.  Pistols at the time were seen as relatively unreliable weapons.  The majority were rifles and some small cannon.  Those same founding fathers and their progeny would continue to face hostilities with the native populations for the next 100 years.  Not a threat in everyday life today, nor does your town have a militia or form a posse.

Each of the thirteen colonies had versions of the 2nd amendment in their fledgling state constitutions.  The second amendment as proposed by Madison stated:  

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.”

Undoubtedly, the founding fathers considered the right to just rebellion against a tyrannical government as part of the decision to protect armament in an amendment as well as protection from natives.  But ownership of guns was limited by economics and the nature of such arms was much different from the arms available today as is the differences for people deciding to arm.

Read in context, people have the right to bear arms so as to act as a well regulated militia, might be the more accurate portrayal of what they meant with some recognition that especially westward, so protection might more realistically be individual. 

I couldn't resist posting this Shailene Woodley quote: