8 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Maybe I'm a bit giddy over a division win, a bad win at that, but I'm starting to believe in this team.  

I believe Jalen has improved.  I believe he's growing as a passer.  He's making a few throws that are head turning.  There's room for improvement, for sure, but he's making that improvement.   He's leading the best running attack in the league, the best running attack that the league has seen in quite some time.  

Our defense is meh, but we seem to be able to limit the damage.

If we make the playoffs, we could make a little run.  There are NFC teams light years ahead of us, but I would not be surprised if this team could win a playoff game or two.

Hurts play has improved some, but I'm not sure if it's Hurts improving or it being a by-product of playing behind the hands down best O-Line in the NFL.

The clips that Baldy broke down showed a level of pass pro that is comical.

12 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

Like, the next Sam Darnold, or Josh Rosen or Haskins, or Daniel Jones.   Throw out what you have in order to hand the keys to one of those guys?    There are a lot of QBs drafted in the first round recently who have not done particularly well.

The Eagles are 7-7,  up from 4-11-1 last year.   I don't think that the defense is much better.   The offense, with Hurts, is better.  And the Eagles don't have to spend $30 M a year for the next few years.  and the Eagles are getting a first rounder. 

Stay the course,  spend mostly on defense, the defense improves.  Add some run parts like the Ravens have,  a FB,  a blocking TE.   The Eagles might be able, at some time, to sign a free agent QB, instead of having to trade for one. 
Next year, maybe a Free Agent Wide Receiver, who meets the needs the Eagles might have.  Look for one of those great RBs,  big and fast.   If there's a great one,  could use and early pick,  but a sufficient one could be found on day 3, probably. 

Eagles have a blocking TE in Stoll.  Could be upgraded to a blocking TE that can catch a bit better. 

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Hurts play has improved some, but I'm not sure if it's Hurts improving or it being a by-product of playing behind the hands down best O-Line in the NFL.

The clips that Baldy broke down showed a level of pass pro that is comical.

Yeah, absolutely true.  I credit Siri for this.  He knows the strength of this team and he is using it.  

1 minute ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Yeah, absolutely true.  I credit Siri for this.  He knows the strength of this team and he is using it.  

Agreed. Siri is someone who definitely has improved. He still has a bad habit of getting cute with play-calling when it is unnecessary, but he has come a long way from the first month of the season.

18 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Maybe I'm a bit giddy over a division win, a bad win at that, but I'm starting to believe in this team.  

I believe Jalen has improved.  I believe he's growing as a passer.  He's making a few throws that are head turning.  There's room for improvement, for sure, but he's making that improvement.   He's leading the best running attack in the league, the best running attack that the league has seen in quite some time.  

Our defense is meh, but we seem to be able to limit the damage.

If we make the playoffs, we could make a little run.  There are NFC teams light years ahead of us, but I would not be surprised if this team could win a playoff game or two.

I would, but you never know

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Redskins went into the game without their best corner, the other starter was injured, and I believe Landon Collins missed time with an injury.

These 1 week blips are not improvement.  He needs to show it multiple weeks in a row.

One thing I did notice, he took several plays that worked for Minshew and put them in the game plan for Hurts.

The NYG game was totally queued up for Swag to do well - mind bottling what happened that week, as that team is objectively horrendous. A backslide to even the Hurts median would be a huge failure. If the OL can consistently gin up 175 yard rushing games, Swag has to be able to easily manage the game.

31 minutes ago, mattwill said:

And that is where he resides in the depth chart.

1-5 = Johnson - Seumalo - Kelce - Brooks - Mailata

6-9 = Dillard - Driscoll - Herbig - Dickerson - ??

10-13 = Toth - Opeta - ?? - Anderson - Clark

I agree.   I just want to nip the notion of him being better than that in the bud.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Didn't post it yet, but it was @jamiller who predicted 29-18.

There were no bonus winners. Unless you went streaking. 

4th one?

The numbers, they speak to me.  🤡

Nothing new to the Hurts conversation but I find it hilarious he plays 3/4 of a good game and that's all everyone needs to crown him. 

32 minutes ago, QuinnWR4 said:

I agree mostly with this. You figure he should continue to improve as a passer as far as making his reads faster and delivering on time with accuracy. And make no mistake about it, he is the reason for our successful ground attack. The threat of him running holds a backer or end or box safety that allows for the line to double team and get to the next level quicker. 
 

My biggest concern is his arm strength. He’s got a rag arm and doesn’t scare a defense on him unloading a deep shot. I’m not saying an offense should be built around and focus on multiple home run shots a game. But at some point you need to be able to chuck it deep or zip one outside the numbers on a rope, and he doesn’t appear to have that. 

ok.  

Of course, all that you said in the second paragraph means that teams can load up the box if they want to and that sort of negates the holding of one player due to Hurts' running threat.   

And when you look at the game they played without Hurts... the RBs...

WASH: 238 total minus Hurts' 38 = 200 yards by RBs.
NYJ: 185 total minus Minshew's 11 = 174 yards by RBs.
NYG: 208 total minus Hurts' 77 = 131 yards by RBs.
NO: 242 total minus Hurts' 69 = 173 yards by RBs.
DEN: 216 total minus Hurts' 55 = 161 yards by RBs.
LAC: 176 total minus Hurts' 62 = 114 yards by RBs.
DET: 236 total minus Hurts' 71 = 165 yards by RBs.

Seems the rushing attack without Hurts wasn't any worse than with him.  157 with Hurts by RBs... 174 without him.   Small sample size, but that's where we are since they went heavy rushing attack.

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Didn't post it yet, but it was @jamiller who predicted 29-18.

There were no bonus winners. Unless you went streaking. 

They didn’t slip up and say redskins and say Tuesday night football at least 3 times? Damn 

Opposing defenses know exactly what we are going to do and they still can't stop our run game. That's what winning in the trenches is all about.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nothing new to the Hurts conversation but I find it hilarious he plays 3/4 of a good game and that's all everyone needs to crown him. 

Nah... some.  But, those were mainly the folks just waiting to crown him anyway.  Confirmation bias at its finest.

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They didn’t slip up and say redskins and say Tuesday night football at least 3 times? Damn 

Didn't hear the Redskins part

 

Interesting breakdown by Simms, he has really come around on Hurts.

I'm not there with Hurts, not sure if I will get there, but Hurts is making believers out of some of his earlier skeptics.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Since we have a short interlude between games, I have a question that the assembled posters here may be able to answer.  Specifically, some screen names changed when the transition from the EMB to eaglesmessgeboard.com  took place.  Take a look at the table below and let me know what additions/corrections I need to make to the left column's current screen names.

New EMB Name	Old EMB Name
	143
Wentz_Era (mods won't let me change it)	ferrisbueller84/foles_era

Good to see ya around!  How's California?  

21 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

ok.  

Of course, all that you said in the second paragraph means that teams can load up the box if they want to and that sort of negates the holding of one player due to Hurts' running threat.   

And when you look at the game they played without Hurts... the RBs...

WASH: 238 total minus Hurts' 38 = 200 yards by RBs.
NYJ: 185 total minus Minshew's 11 = 174 yards by RBs.
NYG: 208 total minus Hurts' 77 = 131 yards by RBs.
NO: 242 total minus Hurts' 69 = 173 yards by RBs.
DEN: 216 total minus Hurts' 55 = 161 yards by RBs.
LAC: 176 total minus Hurts' 62 = 114 yards by RBs.
DET: 236 total minus Hurts' 71 = 165 yards by RBs.

Seems the rushing attack without Hurts wasn't any worse than with him.  157 with Hurts by RBs... 174 without him.   Small sample size, but that's where we are since they went heavy rushing attack.

It’s a narrative to try to bolster his value. The oline would be great at run blocking if we had mahomes, josh Allen or Justin herbert or any good competent QB out there too. Heck they might even be better as teams would have to respect the pass even more than they do right now. 

no offense they’d run the ball well as long as the QB is competent cause their oline is that good and Jeff stoutland has a PH.D in teaching oline. The problem with Doug outside of 2017 was always we didn’t run the damn ball enough. It’s why manu and i would be at each other’s throats 

Sirianni has Covid. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Sirianni has Covid. 

Is he vaccinated and have symptoms? 

Nick has COVID

 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Is he vaccinated and have symptoms? 

Every coach has to be

4 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

I've seen the Eagles linked to Desmond Riddler in the second round a couple times...

this guy?

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Since we have a short interlude between games, I have a question that the assembled posters here may be able to answer.  Specifically, some screen names changed when the transition from the EMB to eaglesmessgeboard.com  took place.  Take a look at the table below and let me know what additions/corrections I need to make to the left column's current screen names.

New EMB Name	Old EMB Name
	143
	-Triumph-
aptosbird	aptosbird
	Arsenal79
austinfan	austinfan
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	bkwhoa
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bwestbrook36	bwestbrook36
Casey @ Bat	Casey @ Bat
	Chase the Fan
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	dawkins20
	DE
Desertbirds	desertbirds
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	Double
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	E v 2.0
eagle45	eagle45
	EagleAye
	eagleeyejk
	eaglelen
	eagles_crazy
	Eaglesfan83
	Eternal
	Fansincebirth
	ferrisbueller84
	Flying Dutchman
FranklinFldEBUpper	FranklinFldEBUpper
	ghor50
greend	greend
	greendestiny9
HazletonEagle	HazletonEagle
	HughDawg
Iggles_Phan	Iggles_Phan
	IggleWalt
	InfiniteSeriesN
justrelax	justrelax
jwill2420	jwill2420
	Kolbfan4
LeanMeanGM	leanmeangreenmachine
	Lockdown Lito
ManuManu	ManuManu
mattwill	mattwill
McMVP	McMVP
	Mike P
Mike030270	Mike030270
Mike31mt	Mike31mt
NcIggles	NcIggles
	Nocturnal
	novascotianeaglesfan
Parrot Head	Parrot Head
	pricebe
	PrinceKelby
	purplefiggy
	rcavezza
RLC	RealCrippler
	rhinoddd50
	s1hujas
schuy7	schuy7
	Solomon
	superbowlsoon
TEW	The Eagles win!
	The_Sounds_of_Philadelphia
	thebeastfromtheeast
ToastJenkins	ToastJenkins
TorontoEagle	TorontoEagle
	TQ
	UK Eagle
Utebird	Utebird
Veejer	Veejer
	v-rod
	WaitingForSomeday
	Westyis2Underrated
	wiseguy
Westbtook#36	Westbtook#36

beast is now @Original Sin

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Every coach has to be

So he should be fine to coach if he’s not having symptoms. Isn’t that the new rule