2 hours ago, eglz1 said:

True. It used to be extraordinary for a .500 team to be thinking playoffs. Today, not so much.

Or... a below 0.500 team to be thinking playoffs.

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Or... a below 0.500 team to be thinking playoffs.

My biggest issue with a 7th seed. Below .500 teams becoming more and more common qualifying for the post season. 

8 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

My biggest issue with a 7th seed. Below .500 teams becoming more and more common qualifying for the post season. 

The 7th seed should have never been allowed... but did it because of Covid.   And we all knew it wouldn't be contracted back.

 

 

You know what happens when you water down a good product... you get garbage.  NFL is paving the way towards garbage.

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You know what happens when you water down a good product... you get garbage.  NFL is paving the way towards garbage.

But apparently the NFL finds garbage profitable sooo .............

Just now, eglz1 said:

But apparently the NFL finds garbage profitable sooo .............

They will alienate enough of their fan base eventually...

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They will alienate enough of their fan base eventually...

They may not alienate that many if there are enough fans that don't remember the quality of play by the 80's 49ers or (sorry) 90's Cowboys.  I think a goal of the league is to make itself more egalitarian. It's more interesting for more people if the Super Bowl aren't the same handful of teams year after year. Is there a saturation point? Probably.

 

48 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The 7th seed should have never been allowed... but did it because of Covid.   And we all knew it wouldn't be contracted back.

 

 

You know what happens when you water down a good product... you get garbage.  NFL is paving the way towards garbage.

Agreed completely. 

15 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

They may not alienate that many if there are enough fans that don't remember the quality of play by the 80's 49ers or (sorry) 90's Cowboys.  I think a goal of the league is to make itself more egalitarian. It's more interesting for more people if the Super Bowl aren't the same handful of teams year after year. Is there a saturation point? Probably.

I believe that is absolutely the case. Just look at the way the draft is structured to give the worse teams higher picks. That is clearly about leveling the playing field. I think leveling the playing field is a good thing. What I fear is that they want to become an every team gets a trophy or at least every team gets close to getting trophy league. It's why I roll my eyes with all of this we can make the playoffs talk. Like getting in as the 7th seed is some major accomplishment. But it seems to be keeping some of our fans dreaming so it's working.

I'll even go a step further by admitting that every year I become more convinced that the refs are keeping games closer than they should be. It always seems the under dog team gets the more favorable calls. I'm not claiming they fix games or purposely change outcomes. It just seems to me they tend to keep games closer than some should be. 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They will alienate enough of their fan base eventually...

I think it would take a huge scandal or something that completely de-legitimatizes the game for that too happen.

9 minutes ago, Thing3 said:

I believe that is absolutely the case. Just look at the way the draft is structured to give the worse teams higher picks. That is clearly about leveling the playing field. I think leveling the playing field is a good thing. What I fear is that they want to become an every team gets a trophy or at least every team gets close to getting trophy league. It's why I roll my eyes with all of this we can make the playoffs talk. Like getting in as the 7th seed is some major accomplishment. But it seems to be keeping some of our fans dreaming so it's working.

I'll even go a step further by admitting that every year I become more convinced that the refs are keeping games closer than they should be. It always seems the under dog team gets the more favorable calls. I'm not claiming they fix games or purposely change outcomes. It just seems to me they tend to keep games closer than some should be. 

That is completely different from watering down the playoff product.

2 minutes ago, Thing3 said:

I think it would take a huge scandal or something that completely de-legitimatizes the game for that too happen.

I lose interest in the NFL every year.   I used to watch EVERY GAME.  Now I watch the Eagles games and maybe catch another one here or there.    Never a Thursday night... MNF is almost unwatchable.  And CBS' production is just garbage.  

 

 

Maybe I'm just old.

25 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That is completely different from watering down the playoff product.

Oh I agree. I was reacting to "It's more interesting for more people if the Super Bowl aren't the same handful of teams year after year.". I don't believe watering down the playoffs changes that picture much at all. As it was only 10 wildcard teams have advanced to the SB and only 6 won it in 50 years.

To me it's better to keep more teams alive longer than hearing every year bull crap fans crying "lets tank for the better pick" after 5 games...but that's just me

51 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I lose interest in the NFL every year.   I used to watch EVERY GAME.  Now I watch the Eagles games and maybe catch another one here or there.    Never a Thursday night... MNF is almost unwatchable.  And CBS' production is just garbage.  

 

 

Maybe I'm just old.

Funny because I use to only watch the Eagles but the older I get the more games I watch. Not that I'm watching all of the games but more than I ever have. I think it's because I have more time on my hands and nothing more.

17 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

Not sure that Minshew gets another start this year, unless Jalen produces a couple more turds like the last game.

And maybe not next year, if Howie drafts/trades for a QB or signs a vet.

Minshew is undefeated as an Eagles starting QB. What a record?! What a legend?!

" Minshew would've won that game, for sure. "

2 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

Minshew is undefeated as an Eagles starting QB. What a record?! What a legend?!

" Minshew would've won that game, for sure. "

He is not quite in the Frank Gore legend area, but he is close.

21 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

Well, the throw that drew the questionable PI call was definitely way off target, but I guess they don't include that one because it drew a penalty? Either way, definitely liked what I saw out of Minshew for the most part. I wouldn't be heartbroken if we gave him another start coming off the bye. 

Minshew beats the Giants for sure but he still ain’t it. Fools gold. I’m fine letting him play I’m fine if they don’t. Both ain’t it.

I think we have seen enough  from  hurts. He's a backup at best.

Minshew should be given a chance to start a couple games.

On 12/7/2021 at 12:56 PM, EagleJoe8 said:

My biggest issue with a 7th seed. Below .500 teams becoming more and more common qualifying for the post season. 

Yet that really would have had nothing to do with it last year. The team with the worst record in the postseason won their division. A 7-win team made it and it would have been possible for a 6-win team. 

Personally, I don't see a big deal. 1 team loses a first round bye, but should get an easy wild card matchup. So either that team 7th seed team didn't belong in the playoffs or they overcame some bad luck that hindered their record during the season. If they belong, they have a shot to win. If not, the #2 seed just has to do their job.

9 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Yet that really would have had nothing to do with it last year. The team with the worst record in the postseason won their division. A 7-win team made it and it would have been possible for a 6-win team. 

Personally, I don't see a big deal. 1 team loses a first round bye, but should get an easy wild card matchup. So either that team 7th seed team didn't belong in the playoffs or they overcame some bad luck that hindered their record during the season. If they belong, they have a shot to win. If not, the #2 seed just has to do their job.

May as well let everyone in the playoffs then. The higher seeds just have to do their job. 
 

Of course not. Making the postseason should be for the teams with the best records. Personally, I would even be ok excluding entire divisions if all 4 teams finish with records below the team with the 6th best record. Bad luck? Tough tiddies. Try again next year. Seems like too much of an "Everyone gets a trophy” mentality. 

55 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Yet that really would have had nothing to do with it last year. The team with the worst record in the postseason won their division. A 7-win team made it and it would have been possible for a 6-win team. 

Personally, I don't see a big deal. 1 team loses a first round bye, but should get an easy wild card matchup. So either that team 7th seed team didn't belong in the playoffs or they overcame some bad luck that hindered their record during the season. If they belong, they have a shot to win. If not, the #2 seed just has to do their job.

Why have a regular season at all then?  Just play the division opponents, let the media rank them based on those 6 games, and just throw all the teams into the pot and make a 32 team bracket.   Want to add some intrigue... make it double elimination, and throw the losers into the OPPOSITE CONFERENCE.  If the team from the loser's bracket beats the undefeated team, then they have to do it again to win the championship.   

 

5 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

May as well let everyone in the playoffs then. The higher seeds just have to do their job. 
 

Of course not. Making the postseason should be for the teams with the best records. Personally, I would even be ok excluding entire divisions if all 4 teams finish with records below the team with the 6th best record. Bad luck? Tough tiddies. Try again next year. Seems like too much of an "Everyone gets a trophy” mentality. 

 

5 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Why have a regular season at all then?  Just play the division opponents, let the media rank them based on those 6 games, and just throw all the teams into the pot and make a 32 team bracket.   Want to add some intrigue... make it double elimination, and throw the losers into the OPPOSITE CONFERENCE.  If the team from the loser's bracket beats the undefeated team, then they have to do it again to win the championship.   

 

Obviously, the idea is to make money. They aren't exactly letting everybody in the world make a team and enter a grand tournament. It's a league sport with a regular season and a postseason. The problem with football is that you can't have a 56, 82, or 162 game season like other sports. Because it's 100% a contact sport, injuries are a much bigger factor during the course of a season. 

Personally, I'm not really for or against having the 7th team qualify for the postseason. I just don't think it makes much of a difference. But I will say this about the NFL --- I'm glad none of it has to do with "media rankings."