10 hours ago, blindside said:

 And being better than Hurts isn’t all that tall of a task. It’s not even that Minshew is necessarily better, he’s just better at things that are more sustainable in the NFL and the things you look for in a QB. So you don’t have to dumb down your offense to one and run. 

But ..... but ....... isn't one and run the way the modern NFL is going? To hear some tell it, we better get used to it.

34 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Sounds like he ran out of gas on the freeway, maybe he was getting out of his car or walking to the station 

My god that’s terrible 

9 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

But ..... but ....... isn't one and run the way the modern NFL is going? To hear some tell it, we better get used to it.

One and run will always equal one and done in the playoffs

Just now, downundermike said:

One and run will always equal one and done in the playoffs

But as long as we make the playoffs ..........

8 hours ago, hputenis said:

Hey @RememberTheKoy.  We had some trouble putting our 8 month old daughter to sleep even though we used all these fancy white noise contraptions.  I put on a post game show with Devon Givens and she passed right the F out.  Works for me too. Bc he’s terrible.  

 

You must prefer some morning zoo garbage talk radio. 

17 minutes ago, downundermike said:

One and run will always equal one and done in the playoffs

So you wouldn't have taken Watson after he put up all of 7 points in his first PO game, and basically garbage stats in his 3rd PO game?

I don't take that TB game seriously, Eagles weren't ready for a top defense in a PO game, and it was a lot more than Hurts, the failure was the entire offense.

But that's why experience matters - we'll see what happens this year.

RIP Haskins.

And F Adam Schefter

19 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Id add the rotation has question marks besides wheeler. Nola has had similar issues he had today the past couple years. Where he can look great for a while then implodes and gives up Homer on a 2 strike count or 5-6 good innings then implodes. Eflin is ok as a 3-4 but he needs to stay healthy and give them 20+ starts (excluding 2020 cause they played 60 games he’s done that twice in 6 seasons). Suarez you hope continues where he left off last year but more scouting reports and full season as a starter. Frankly think gibson stinks and it’s why he’s a 5th starter. 

Nola is Hamels 2.0 essentially. Can be incredibly dominant but prone to the long ball and will have funks. 

Hit by a dump truck , damn shame RIP 

23 minutes ago, austinfan said:

So you wouldn't have taken Watson after he put up all of 7 points in his first PO game, and basically garbage stats in his 3rd PO game?

I don't take that TB game seriously, Eagles weren't ready for a top defense in a PO game, and it was a lot more than Hurts, the failure was the entire offense.

But that's why experience matters - we'll see what happens this year.

There was a good game plan for TB. Plays were there to be had which in theory could have kept us competitive. Sadly a singular person was unable to execute. 

28 minutes ago, austinfan said:

So you wouldn't have taken Watson after he put up all of 7 points in his first PO game, and basically garbage stats in his 3rd PO game?

I don't take that TB game seriously, Eagles weren't ready for a top defense in a PO game, and it was a lot more than Hurts, the failure was the entire offense.

But that's why experience matters - we'll see what happens this year.

You just believe what you want to believe...

1 hour ago, schuy7 said:

You just believe what you want to believe...

Right? Let’s just ignore the fact hurts and the eagles offense (along with the bad defense ) was 0-6 vs. playoff teams all year and the offense averaged 19 points in this games. (Really it should be even worse considering we had garbage time tds in the chiefs, raiders, cowboys and Bucs playoff game). But the offense only struggled in the playoff game against tampa so it doesn’t matter cause it was his first playoff game….

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Right? Let’s just ignore the fact hurts was 0-6 vs. playoff teams all year and the offense averaged 19 points in this games. (Really it should be even worse considering we had garbage time tds in the chiefs, raiders, cowboys and Bucs playoff game). But the offense only struggled in the playoff game against tampa so it doesn’t matter cause it was his first playoff game. 

 

Lets ignore how the defense was giving up 80%+  completion percentage in those games.  

Does this sixers game matter for seeding?

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Does this sixers game matter for seeding?

Sixers need to win last 2, Boston needs to lose to Memphis tomorrow for 3 seed.  Memphis has nothing to play for so.....looks like we get Toronto and we are totally f'd.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Lets ignore how the defense was giving up 80%+  completion percentage in those games.  

That explains why the offense scored 19 points on average in those games? So because the defense was bad, the offense just gets overlooked and is excused by you?

 this all explain why the offense without garbage time td against Dallas down 41-14, a garbage td against the chiefs with 11 seconds down 19, a garbage time td down 19 points with 3 mins left vs. the raiders and scoring 15 points down 31-0 with 12 mins left in a game that was over managed to average 13 points in those games? So the 19 points they averaged was more of a mirage. So the offense because the defense was bad apparently means we just ignore the ineptitude of the offense in most of those games. 

We can say the defense was bad which I’m not gonna disagree with. However their offense was not good either. If you think 19 ppg against playoff teams with the garbage time scores is good then you are delusional. 

13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Right? Let’s just ignore the fact hurts and the eagles offense was 0-6 vs. playoff teams all year and the offense averaged 19 points in this games. (Really it should be even worse considering we had garbage time tds in the chiefs, raiders, cowboys and Bucs playoff game). But the offense only struggled in the playoff game against tampa so it doesn’t matter cause it was his first playoff game….

Good you realize the Defense didn’t play in any of those six games. 

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Good you realize the Defense didn’t play in any of those six games. 

Oh the defense was bad. However the offense also scored 19 ppg on offense. So while the defense was bad and expected. The offense wasn’t much better. Unless 19 ppg vs. playoff teams is now good? So the defense was bad. The offense was also bad. 

if the Eagles were losing to those playoff teams and putting up points I say hey it’s strictly the defense.  if they were out there like the Chargers offense who against 9 playoff teams scoring 29.8 ppg in those games then I would say it’s just the defense. But it’s not. There were times the offense and defense were bad. There were times where the defense inability to get off the field hurt the offense (chiefs). There were times where the eagles offense ineptitude to stay on the field hurt the eagles defense. 

6 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Hit (in the dumper , play on garbage time and dumpster lmao)

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That explains why the offense scored 19 points on average? So because the defense was bad, the offense just gets overlooked and is excused by you?

 this all explain why the offense without garbage time td against Dallas down 41-14, a garbage td against the chiefs with 11 seconds down 19, a garbage time td down 19 points with 3 mins left vs. the raiders and scoring 15 points down 31-0 with 12 mins left in a game that was over managed to average 13 points? So the 19 points they averaged was more of a mirage. So the defense because the defense was bad apparently means we just ignore the ineptitude of the offense in most of those games. 

We can say the defense was bad which I’m not gonna disagree with. However their offense was not good either. If you think 19 ppg against playoff teams with the garbage time points is good then you are delusional. 

Yes, the offense struggled.  Part of the reason was that the top two Gs were gone early in the season.  Part of this doesn’t just go to the QB play.  The Goedert’s foot interception.  Eagles had more TDs called back for illegal screens than I have seen in a lifetime of watching the NFL.  Another washout season by both Reagor and JJAW.   What fault lies with the coaches for misidentification of which routes would be open?  And yes, Hurts inability to process the field and trust what was developing before it developed and his tendency to bolt.  

But I still believe that the Eagles D helped contribute to the calling of so many runs to keep it off the field.  Tampa game?  Brady toyed with them. I think part of this was Gannon learning as a DC and part was the talent.  No coincidence that Nelson is still on the street this late in free agency two years in a row.  

41 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Yes, the offense struggled.  Part of the reason was that the top two Gs were gone early in the season.  Part of this doesn’t just go to the QB play.  The Goedert’s foot interception.  Eagles had more TDs called back for illegal screens than I have seen in a lifetime of watching the NFL.  Another washout season by both Reagor and JJAW.   What fault lies with the coaches for misidentification of which routes would be open?  And yes, Hurts inability to process the field and trust what was developing before it developed and his tendency to bolt.  

But I still believe that the Eagles D helped contribute to the calling of so many runs to keep it off the field.  Tampa game?  Brady toyed with them. I think part of this was Gannon learning as a DC and part was the talent.  No coincidence that Nelson is still on the street this late in free agency two years in a row.  

I never said it was completely QB. why i said hurts and the eagles offense. However there’s games where hurts and the offense due to their own ineptitude hurt themselves and weren’t good. Some of it bad luck like with goedert and the ball hitting his foot or bad penalties could be applied to the defense as well with Barnett committing stupid ass penalties or put into a bad position on the field due to an offensive mistake  

If we are going to use injury then I’ll throw Brandon Graham out there. Who missed all but 2 games this year. that hurts the eagles defense.  I’d argue he’s their most consistent pass rusher, really good run stopper and best DE. The eagles couldn’t afford to lose Graham due to lack of depth behind him and how low talent we had on defense. losing seumalo and brooks was hard (although brooks should’ve been gone anyway due being injury prone prior to the year. relying him to stay healthy was a poor decision with an expected outcome). The eagles depth on the oline was much more sustainable than if we lost someone like Graham or slay or hargrave on defense. Loss of Graham as the player and leader  early in the season is part of it as well. 

(This next part not to you and to some others on here) We don’t think it was hard for the defense at the beginning of the year to learn an entirely new scheme from what they had been with Schwartz and that could be part of their struggles? that seems to be ignored (not you) on this board but applied to only the offense. 

Reed seems to like dumb fouls

1 hour ago, RLC said:

RIP Haskins.

And F Adam Schefter

What did Schefter do?  

29 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

She's cute. Reminds me of that Maria Mennuhoes chick or whatever her name is.