Fresh_Prince Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Politics. Colored refrigerators. Component systems. Rock n Roll music. I'm expecting muscle cars next.. It's more Boomer than Esiason in here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc S. Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Utebird said: Never been but Red Rocks would be really cool. Back in the day when Metallica black album came out there was a venue called wolf mountain, up by park City Utah, they changed the name to park west or something like that. It's an outdoor venue right on the side of the mountain We actually left early because a bunch of people had started multiple big ole fires and were dancing around them and people were tossing glass bottles in them. I didn't really want to die at a Metallica concert.🤷♂️ Saw a band at Red Rocks in 2019, Blue Sky Bluegrass. Yeah, not the most striking name, my niece was dating the Dobro player at the time. Flew out for a Colorado visit. Excellent covers of most of the Rockabilly stuff, lotsa Rodney Crowell, Bonnie Raitt, some John Prine, a few originals, good vocals. guys could play. Red Rocks is a unique venue, acoustically sound, intimate feeling, good sight lines from everywhere and no kidding in the middle of a red rock Canyon. .Love the Front Range, Estes Park, Garden of the Gods etc...access to all the Rocky Mnts from about anywhere. The whole get there, enjoy and party thing is half the fun. Music the other half. I'd move to Colorado if they had an Ocean out their front door.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utebird Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fresh_Prince said: Politics. Colored refrigerators. Component systems. Rock n Roll music. I'm expecting muscle cars next.. It's more Boomer than Esiason in here! My bro has a 67 mustang that looks just like this one. https://images.app.goo.gl/pyRjT766aFktZQKEA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawkdaballhawk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fresh_Prince said: Politics. Colored refrigerators. Component systems. Rock n Roll music. I'm expecting muscle cars next.. It's more Boomer than Esiason in here! Or lipitor and viagra doses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utebird Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Doc S. said: Saw a band at Red Rocks in 2019, Blue Sky Bluegrass. Yeah, not the most striking name, my niece was dating the Dobro player at the time. Flew out for a Colorado visit. Excellent covers of most of the Rockabilly stuff, lotsa Rodney Crowell, Bonnie Raitt, some John Prine, a few originals, good vocals. guys could play. Red Rocks is a unique venue, acoustically sound, intimate felling, good sight lines from everywhere and no **** in the middle of a red rock Canyon. .Love the Front Range, Estes Park, Garden of the Gods etc...access to all the Rocky Mnts from about anywhere. The whole get there, enjoy and party thing is half the fun. Music the other half. I'd move to Colorado if they had an Ocean out their front door.... That sounds awesome! We went to garden of the gods and Silverton this summer, love Garden of the gods, reminds me alot of all the red rock in Utah. Beautiful area I'm sure it makes for a great music venue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpac55 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Speaking of muscle cars. I just saw that Dodge announced next year is the last year for the Charger and Challenger and no more Hemi production...EV. The Corvette is going EV and the Camaro is getting axed for an EV sedan. I understand the need to have EV options but I think it's a really bad move to go straight to EV and not have a combustion engine option at all. There are a lot of people out there who will never get an EV. It's just not feasible to have the entire country buy an EV let alone having a power grid to support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinfan Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Hybrids are coming on for that reason, for a lot of families, an EV for around the town and a hybrid for long trips. Hybrids double the gas mileage, give you great acceleration but also have a lot longer range. They're a good compromise until improvements in battery technology (double both the range and the charging rate) make EVs more feasible for most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain F Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Damn Seattle got a baller They showed all 7 career catches. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain F Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, bpac55 said: Speaking of muscle cars. I just saw that Dodge announced next year is the last year for the Charger and Challenger and no more Hemi production...EV. The Corvette is going EV and the Camaro is getting axed for an EV sedan. I understand the need to have EV options but I think it's a really bad move to go straight to EV and not have a combustion engine option at all. There are a lot of people out there who will never get an EV. It's just not feasible to have the entire country buy an EV let alone having a power grid to support them. I just picked up a 2011 cts-v coupe. 550hp of supercharged v8 goodness. I'll never sell it. F those ev snobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc S. Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 hours ago, dawkdaballhawk said: Because anyone carrying a gun is apt to lose their mind and just start shooting up the place. Not directed at you DBhawk, just putting this out there.. Gonna say this just once. Carrying a gun is not about aggression, it is about self defense. A REASONABLE individual, properly trained, does not involve their gun in a shouting match. The weapon is available for life-threatening situations and to protect others from the same. A REASONABLE individual will be extremely reluctant to employ their weapon. On the other hand, don't break into my house or try to carjack me. Get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawkdaballhawk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, bpac55 said: Speaking of muscle cars. I just saw that Dodge announced next year is the last year for the Charger and Challenger and no more Hemi production...EV. The Corvette is going EV and the Camaro is getting axed for an EV sedan. I understand the need to have EV options but I think it's a really bad move to go straight to EV and not have a combustion engine option at all. There are a lot of people out there who will never get an EV. It's just not feasible to have the entire country buy an EV let alone having a power grid to support them. Just spend 80k and add a gennie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertbirds Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Damn Seattle got a baller Brought a tear to Afan's eye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Desertbirds said: Brought a tear to Afan's eye... Speaking of @austinfan, I did not see you have anything to say about the JJAWful trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertbirds Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, downundermike said: Speaking of @austinfan, I did not see you have anything to say about the JJAWful trade. Well, Howie did it so it must be one of the greatest trades in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utebird Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Doc S. said: Not directed at you DBhawk, just putting this out there.. Gonna say this just once. Carrying a gun is not about aggression, it is about self defense. A REASONABLE individual, properly, trained, does not involve their gun in a shouting match. The weapon is available for life-threatening situations and to protect others from the same. A REASONABLE individual will be extremely reluctant to employ their weapon. On the other hand, don't break into my house or try to carjack me. Get it? Depends on whose carrying the gun. Whose packing heat at a youth football game??? Like I said I coached 9th graders for 7 years, lots of parents and coaches and refs all get heated and yell, there were always at least a pair of officers on the field. We played in some rougher areas to where one might expect some dudes to be packing heat but one would expect those carrying to be gang banger highschool kids not parents and definitely not coaches. Just really no reason for a coach or a parent to be packing heat at a youth football game Leave your gun in your safe at home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sin Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 The majority can’t afford a EV The average price for a new electric vehicle – over $66,000, according to Kelley Blue Book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMeanGM Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, downundermike said: Speaking of @austinfan, I did not see you have anything to say about the JJAWful trade. It's great. It basically helped us sign AJ to an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc S. Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, Fresh_Prince said: Politics. Colored refrigerators. Component systems. Rock n Roll music. I'm expecting muscle cars next.. It's more Boomer than Esiason in here! Forgot gardens, infighting, shootings and eventually Eagles stuff... What's wrong with Muscle Cars??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpac55 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, austinfan said: Hybrids are coming on for that reason, for a lot of families, an EV for around the town and a hybrid for long trips. Hybrids double the gas mileage, give you great acceleration but also have a lot longer range. They're a good compromise until improvements in battery technology (double both the range and the charging rate) make EVs more feasible for most people. Nothing wrong with hybrids, nothing wrong with EV. But to just eliminate for many the heart and soul of a car is just a bad move. Companies should be giving the consumers what they want. I have yet to meet a person who said give me more EVs. I've heard plenty of I won't buy another car from that maker now. The company that says we will make EV, but we are keeping our traditional powertrains because A LOT of our loyal customers still love and drive them is going to be the company that comes out on top. People want options, not you must buy this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wussbasket Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, bpac55 said: Speaking of muscle cars. I just saw that Dodge announced next year is the last year for the Charger and Challenger and no more Hemi production...EV. The Corvette is going EV and the Camaro is getting axed for an EV sedan. I understand the need to have EV options but I think it's a really bad move to go straight to EV and not have a combustion engine option at all. There are a lot of people out there who will never get an EV. It's just not feasible to have the entire country buy an EV let alone having a power grid to support them. They are moving away from the Hemi V8 and switching to a turbocharged inline 6 that will pump out more ponies and be more fuel efficient. I think you will have a long transition period with many on hybrids for awhile before everyone is fully on EV's. As for getting rid of the Charger and Challenger, I hope they don't turn them into an EV that looks nothing like them like Ford did with the "Mustang" Mach-E. Would be better to market it as a new vehicle instead of spinning an EV off the Charger and Challenger. I think the average car age on the road is around 12 years now, so it will happen slowly. Just like we still have classic cars on the road today, you will still see ICE vehicles on the road 20+ years from now, just obviously a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Original Sin said: The majority can’t afford a EV The average price for a new electric vehicle – over $66,000, according to Kelley Blue Book I bought an EV and haven't regretted it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc S. Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, Utebird said: That sounds awesome! We went to garden of the gods and Silverton this summer, love Garden of the gods, reminds me alot of all the red rock in Utah. Beautiful area I'm sure it makes for a great music venue It's different from any arena you've ever been to. Open air, great natural acoustics, feels like they threw a concert and you were just lucky to be in the area. Not to mention you are in the middle of a huge red rocky canyon and found an amphitheater by accident. Yeah, I was enamored. (Is that word allowed?). One of my all-time favorite places to enjoy live music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Sin Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I’m more of a supercharged coyote fan …. Although not a daily driver . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpac55 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, wussbasket said: They are moving away from the Hemi V8 and switching to a turbocharged inline 6 that will pump out more ponies and be more fuel efficient. I think you will have a long transition period with many on hybrids for awhile before everyone is fully on EV's. As for getting rid of the Charger and Challenger, I hope they don't turn them into an EV that looks nothing like them like Ford did with the "Mustang" Mach-E. Would be better to market it as a new vehicle instead of spinning an EV off the Charger and Challenger. I think the average car age on the road is around 12 years now, so it will happen slowly. Just like we still have classic cars on the road today, you will still see ICE vehicles on the road 20+ years from now, just obviously a lot less. yeah, turbocharged V6 is great and you'll be able to tune/upgrade to get a ton of power. I'm an Audi guy. My SQ5 has a supercharged v6 and I love it. Have tuned it to be around 450 HP, my next tune puts me around 540. That's all fine and dandy and more than enough power but I'm still shopping for an older s4 with the naturally aspirated v8. With that, it's not the overall power but the power, sound and driving experience. I've never driven a rear wheel drive V8 but boy do I love hearing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglePhan1986 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: Not a muscle car but my new baby... F EV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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