Don't think the Eagles are going to be in play for either. They're going to have to pay several guys in the coming years. The draft is their chance to get cost controlled studs, assuming they hit on the picks.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Any idea how many people have been banned since you built the place? Just curious how much nonsense you have to deal with. 

I have no idea. More than 1, less than 20,000. But that's just a guess  I don't mod, so I don't know the numbers. I don't even know if I can find out an exact number. 

Not all bannings are members who post legit content, though. @Moderator12 keeps an eye on registrations and spammers who join boards for the sole purpose of posting spam and he bug zaps them pretty quickly so that the board isn't filled up with crap like that. 

25 minutes ago, Moderator6 said:

Nope. I've seen your crazy rants in pm, and stuff you've shared in the forums. Tomorrow when I have time I'll address some of the things people have been throwing around and then we will get back to talking about football here.

With all due respect, if you volunteer to moderate then you must moderate and discussing OUR rules, as this is a community funded by its members, is part of that process.  @HazletonEagle has asked for a PM discussion and that is highly appropriate.  I hardly dispute the rulings that have led to a couple recent bannings.  Repeated bullying has no place here but neither does a response like yours above.  You’ll address us as you see fit.  Not the role of a moderator.  Do better and make the time to discuss with HE his concerns or maybe relinquish the role of moderator.  A discussion board where a "moderator” dictates as opposed to discusses? Think about that. You volunteered to moderate so moderate.

Both McCoy and Sanders were drafted near the end of the 2nd round.  If the Eagles go RB at #62, who would be the logical choice?  Charbonnet?

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Don't think the Eagles are going to be in play for either. They're going to have to pay several guys in the coming years. The draft is their chance to get cost controlled studs, assuming they hit on the picks.

I don’t think either one are very likely. i  think it’s gonna be too costly draft pick wise and I think you’re gonna have way too much competition to get him.

But if I was willing to make the bet, Jeffrey Simmons who is 25 years old and one of the best interior pass rushers in the NFL makes a whole lot more sense for the Eagles than a 30 year old safety at a position they don’t value as highly. 
 

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

 

Thank you. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t think either one are very likely. i  think it’s gonna be too costly draft pick wise and I think you’re gonna have way too much competition to get him.

But if I was willing to make the bet, Jeffrey Simmons who is 25 years old and one of the best interior pass rushers in the NFL makes a whole lot more sense for the Eagles than a 30 year old safety at a position they don’t value as highly. 
 

I was assuming the cost would be very different for each. Byard might get cut so his cost would be much much lower in all regards

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t think either one are very likely. i  think it’s gonna be too costly draft pick wise and I think you’re gonna have way too much competition to get him.

But if I was willing to make the bet, Jeffrey Simmons who is 25 years old and one of the best interior pass rushers in the NFL makes a whole lot more sense for the Eagles than a 30 year old safety at a position they don’t value as highly. 
 

If I had to pick, I'd agree Simmons is the more likely of the two. But given that Simmons' compensation will be far greater, I think he's super unlikely. Simmons as a free agent? Much more likely. Simmons for a 1st+ and then make him one of the 3 highest paid DTs in football? I don't think it's doable right now.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I was assuming the cost would be very different for each. Byard might get cut so his cost would be much much lower in all regards

If he gets cut, I can see them going for him. Still don’t think he’s gonna take a cheap contract though at 30 when it could be his last payday. But I don’t necessarily think that’s what the case is going to be. I think the Titans are going to wind up trading him at the draft even if it’s not what we think his value should be 

I’ve been digging in on draft more and I’m beginning to think Nolan Smith will be the pick. Injury impacted his season or he might be a higher pick. That’s exactly the kind of value Howie looks for. Will keep an eye out if he visits 

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

If I had to pick, I'd agree Simmons is the more likely of the two. But given that Simmons' compensation will be far greater, I think he's super unlikely. Simmons as a free agent? Much more likely. Simmons for a 1st+ and then make him one of the 3 highest paid DTs in football? I don't think it's doable right now.

I think both are super unlikely unless byard is outright released. frankly i think during the draft or leading up to it some team will give some compensation to point where byard is dealt. I just don’t see the eagles being that team and paying him as he’s a safety. Free agent i could see them going in and setting up a contract that’s doable 

I will never say anything is not doable. Because I’ve seen howie do magic before. I don’t think the eagles do it for the 10th overall pick. Now if it gets to the point of where they’re willing to take the 30th pick overall I could totally see the Eagles doing that. That’s exactly what the Eagles did when they got Jason peters years ago. Late first round pick and they paid him a ton of money. That said I don’t think the 30th pick gonna be enough. It’s likely gonna have to be more and i don’t see the eagles doing that. 

tbh i think the lions would give up 18th overall to get him. Which really the eagles only counter is 10 which i don’t think is happening. 

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

I’ve been digging in on draft more and I’m beginning to think Nolan Smith will be the pick. Injury impacted his season or he might be a higher pick. That’s exactly the kind of value Howie looks for. Will keep an eye out if he visits 

I'm just not sure of the fit. His best fit is Reddicks position.  That's not available.  You obviously don't draft a backup to Reddick at 10.

So,  do you now line up in a traditional 3-4 all the time to make room for another rush OLB? Or do you ask him to put on weight and take Graham's DE spot? That's the quickest path to a starting position.  But not sure Smith is the guy you want there. 

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I’ve been digging in on draft more and I’m beginning to think Nolan Smith will be the pick. Injury impacted his season or he might be a higher pick. That’s exactly the kind of value Howie looks for. Will keep an eye out if he visits 

He’d be a terrible pick at #10.  So little college production, undersized, misses quite a bit of time injured.  I wouldn’t even be excited with him at #30

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I'm just not sure of the fit. His best fit is Reddicks position.  That's not available.  You obviously don't draft a backup to Reddick at 10.

So,  do you now line up in a traditional 3-4 all the time to make room for another rush OLB? Or do you ask him to put on weight and take Graham's DE spot? That's the quickest path to a starting position.  But not sure Smith is the guy you want there. 

That was exactly my original logic for not thinking it was him. And it makes sense. But today I have a feeling that Howie will like him a lot. We’ll see how I feel tomorrow 😀

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

That was exactly my original logic for not thinking it was him. And it makes sense. But today I have a feeling that Howie will like him a lot. We’ll see how I feel tomorrow 😀

I don't know what will happen at 10. But I'm pretty confident it won't be Smith. More likely Murphy or Van Ness.

At 30 I think you need to start taking yourself in to Tuli Tuipolotu because he's an eagle pick through and through. 

Right now my feeling is Howie trades down and takes Kancey. But we’ll see what rumors and visits shake out over the coming weeks. I know people have been ruling out CB, but given that Howie has been sniffing around that position for the last two drafts and it didn’t shake out for him tells me he’s been considering that a long term need for some time now. And he knows eventually he’s going to need someone to step in for Bradberry and Slay.

‘But they have a Hargrave sized hole at DT right now and I guarantee it’s keeping Howie up at night. He’s obsessed with DT.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I don't know what will happen at 10. But I'm pretty confident it won't be Smith. More likely Murphy or Van Ness.

At 30 I think you need to start taking yourself in to Tuli Tuipolotu because he's an eagle pick through and through. 

Van Ness seems to be the betting favorite. 

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Right now my feeling is Howie trades down and takes Kancey. But we’ll see what rumors and visits shake out over the coming weeks. I know people have been ruling out CB, but given that Howie has been sniffing around that position for the last two drafts and it didn’t shake out for him tells me he’s been considering that a long term need for some time now. And he knows eventually he’s going to need someone to step in for Bradberry and Slay.

‘But they have a Hargrave sized hole at DT right now and I guarantee it’s keeping Howie up at night. He’s obsessed with DT.

If Simmons becomes available Howie will not be able to resist IMO. Just hope we could get him without #10…something like #30, 2024 2nd and maybe even get a 2023 4th back but will depend on his trade market.

Also will need to figure out how to fit in his extension

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

He’d be a terrible pick at #10.  So little college production, undersized, misses quite a bit of time injured.  I wouldn’t even be excited with him at #30

Tbh unless someone expected falls to 10 or one of those corners falls to 10 then i really think players 10-23 are relatively the same in terms of prospects grades. Like if Anderson, Witherspoon, Gonzalez, Carter and Wilson are all off the board at 10 then i tend to think what you are selecting from isn’t all that different in terms of value/graded if you were picking at 15-18

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Right now my feeling is Howie trades down and takes Kancey. But we’ll see what rumors and visits shake out over the coming weeks. I know people have been ruling out CB, but given that Howie has been sniffing around that position for the last two drafts and it didn’t shake out for him tells me he’s been considering that a long term need for some time now. And he knows eventually he’s going to need someone to step in for Bradberry and Slay.

‘But they have a Hargrave sized hole at DT right now and I guarantee it’s keeping Howie up at night. He’s obsessed with DT.

Why i don’t rule out Simmons completely. I think highly unlikely though.

but he fits the criteria the eagles genuinely willing to trade for. Last year of rookie contract, top 5 player at his position, young and better years are still ahead of him and it’s a premium position they absolutely value. 

Keep getting this feeling Eagles trade up from 10 and trade down from 30. For who I don't know.

Could be gas though.

The visits will be key. I don’t think the Eagles will select someone top 15 who didn’t visit 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Who is going to mail a letter to JR to let him know he can come back now?

I will do so but I don’t think he will return.

2 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Keep getting this feeling Eagles trade up from 10 and trade down from 30. For who I don't know.

Could be gas though.

Depends on who falls. Curious spot is the cardinals at 3. I think they could trade back or take Anderson. Tbh i don’t see them wanting to miss out on Anderson. So maybe a trade back with the colts if the colts think seattle or raiders are trying to move up. 

45 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Both McCoy and Sanders were drafted near the end of the 2nd round.  If the Eagles go RB at #62, who would be the logical choice?  Charbonnet?

I believe Charbonnet and Roschon Johnson are equivalent.  I prefer spending a 5th round pick after a trade rather than a 2nd round pick.