Isn’t that the dude that was stealing luggage at airports? Don’t F with travelers. It’s stressful enough without some freak stealing your underwear. 

4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

this is why she lost:

Murr?

3 minutes ago, TEW said:

Woke wasn’t the big issue, though obviously it didn’t help.

Exit polls were basically:

Economy/cost of living

immigration

Change in DC

As it turns out, you can’t gaslight tens of millions of people into thinking the economy is great and inflation is low, that ten million illegal immigrants destroying neighborhoods is a good thing, and that a continuation of these policies is desirable.

The US has moderated DRASTICALLY on social issues in my life time. Take the woke stuff from an 11 to 7 and most people would brush it off.

But you can’t piss on their leg and tell them it’s raining. 

I was hyper-generalizing the two sides... Really I think today's voters are anti-incumbent, anti-establishment. They are dissatisfied with the status quo so they are going to keep voting for change until something breaks. 

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Biggest questions going forward, in my mind

1. Who is going to serve in this cabinet? Trump basically chased away experienced, temperate and qualified Republicans from his administration last time; by the end, it was made up primarily of Trump loyalists. Putting aside the insane ideas like RFK Jr. as head of he FDA, who steps into these roles? I'm guessing Vance will be heavily involved in the transition (likely runs it), so I'd expect a lot of his people in cabinet positions. The most intriguing question to me is... 

2. Does Lina Khan survive as head of the FTC? Under a traditional GOP administration, she'd be the first one fired. But Vance seems to be a fan of hers (https://nypost.com/2024/10/15/us-news/j-d-vance-hints-elon-musk-and-lina-khan-could-be-in-trump-admin-i-agree-with-them-both-on-some-issues/), and her focus on breaking up big tech will be appealing to Trump. Dumping her is what Wall Street wants, but guys like Thiel want her attacking big tech. This one will be fascinating.

3. Does he really do the tariffs? I think he clearly wants to, and the question will be can responsible adults stop him? If he does enact the tariffs, the resulting inflation and economic slowdown will be painful. Just have to hope those around him keep this to bluster only.

4. How screwed is Ukraine? Trump will likely try and force Zelensky to give up material territorial concessions by threatening to cut aid. It's simply a question of how much territory Russia gains. I'd expect this to happen fast.

5. Does Israel get more of a green light with Iran? I'd expect Trump to back Bibi in getting more aggressive with Iran, including targeting nuclear facilities.

6. NATO? Who the eff knows.

He has no plan

It's going to be a wild ride

2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

What happened to all the cheating?

They changed the law to make his, and only his, legal actions retroactively illegal.

They illegally leaked unverified grand jury and investigatory testimony.

They tag teamed him during the debate

They edited her interviews

They filed so many illegal voter registrations that a judge had to extend early voting

They made bomb threats

They used the federal government to fund NGOs to campaign for her

They swapped out their losing candidate with no input from anyone else

They deliberately misread the law to illegally lock up thousands of his supporters

They illegally tried to keep him off of ballots

They kept another candidate on the ballot who demanded to be removed

 

Lord knows there's a lot more, but the bottom line is that they cheated. A lot. It just wasn't going to be enough because the Biden/Harris administration has been such a failure that they rehabilitated Trump enough that he's actually going to win a majority of the popular vote.

1 minute ago, binkybink77 said:

Isn’t that the dude that was stealing luggage at airports? Don’t F with travelers. It’s stressful enough without some freak stealing your underwear. 

 idk. i just saw this mf'er in commercials about 50 times a day for the past few months. 

32 minutes ago, Procus said:

Too big to rig

So too big this time but not last time. That’s what you are going with? You’d be far better off now just saying you were wrong about 2020 and happy that the country has enough strength to accept the results in 2024 without any turmoil. 

59 minutes ago, Kz! said:

I can't decide which butthurt I like better. The predictable butthurt from libtards or the butthurt from the Never Trumper/Nimrata Haley faction of the GOP who are so stupid they'd prefer 4 more years of the democratic party importing and amnestying illegals into swing states to permanently change the electorate because they hate orange man so much.

This dude hates Trump so much he actually convinced himself Harris was a good candidate.   

And you wonder why we laugh at you…

may history forget you were our countryman

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

This wasn't really about anything Trump did, as he has no actual solutions to the problems people say they care about (inflation, illegal immigration). This was a rejection of the Biden administration. When 2/3rds of the country thinks you're on the wrong track, it should be impossible for the incumbent party to win. That's Jimmy Carter territory. The only reason it was competitive was because of Trump's...baggage. Any sane Republican wins bigger.

I was calling Biden "Jimmy Carter Part 2" from the jump and got beat over the head by the circle jerk any time I dared suggest things aren't great.

 

But I'm honestly surprised he won in a landslide victory.  I saw him potentially winning a close one, losing a close one or getting blown the F out.  But we are looking at him winning both the popular vote and what, 311 or so EC votes?  Did not see that coming.

 

Time to catalog the threats to Democracy.

3 minutes ago, paco said:

Murr?

Hey don’t get it twisted. Murr is an Eagles fan!

2 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

They changed the law to make his, and only his, legal actions retroactively illegal.

They illegally leaked unverified grand jury and investigatory testimony.

They tag teamed him during the debate

They edited her interviews

They filed so many illegal voter registrations that a judge had to extend early voting

They made bomb threats

They used the federal government to fund NGOs to campaign for her

They swapped out their losing candidate with no input from anyone else

They deliberately misread the law to illegally lock up thousands of his supporters

They illegally tried to keep him off of ballots

They kept another candidate on the ballot who demanded to be removed

 

Lord knows there's a lot more, but the bottom line is that they cheated. A lot. It just wasn't going to be enough because the Biden/Harris administration has been such a failure that they rehabilitated Trump enough that he's actually going to win a majority of the popular vote.

Trump winning the popular probably means the GOP was doing the cheating

9 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Biggest questions going forward, in my mind

1. Who is going to serve in this cabinet? Trump basically chased away experienced, temperate and qualified Republicans from his administration last time; by the end, it was made up primarily of Trump loyalists. Putting aside the insane ideas like RFK Jr. as head of he FDA, who steps into these roles? I'm guessing Vance will be heavily involved in the transition (likely runs it), so I'd expect a lot of his people in cabinet positions. The most intriguing question to me is... 

2. Does Lina Khan survive as head of the FTC? Under a traditional GOP administration, she'd be the first one fired. But Vance seems to be a fan of hers (https://nypost.com/2024/10/15/us-news/j-d-vance-hints-elon-musk-and-lina-khan-could-be-in-trump-admin-i-agree-with-them-both-on-some-issues/), and her focus on breaking up big tech will be appealing to Trump. Dumping her is what Wall Street wants, but guys like Thiel want her attacking big tech. This one will be fascinating.

3. Does he really do the tariffs? I think he clearly wants to, and the question will be can responsible adults stop him? If he does enact the tariffs, the resulting inflation and economic slowdown will be painful. Just have to hope those around him keep this to bluster only.

4. How screwed is Ukraine? Trump will likely try and force Zelensky to give up material territorial concessions by threatening to cut aid. It's simply a question of how much territory Russia gains. I'd expect this to happen fast.

5. Does Israel get more of a green light with Iran? I'd expect Trump to back Bibi in getting more aggressive with Iran, including targeting nuclear facilities.

6. NATO? Who the eff knows.

My bet is yes to tariffs and that he forces Ukraine to accept a deal whereby Putin keeps the territory they have won. I think NATO and Israel move ahead just as they are now. Not sure about the other two. 

2 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

They changed the law to make his, and only his, legal actions retroactively illegal.

They illegally leaked unverified grand jury and investigatory testimony.

They tag teamed him during the debate

They edited her interviews

They filed so many illegal voter registrations that a judge had to extend early voting

They made bomb threats

They used the federal government to fund NGOs to campaign for her

They swapped out their losing candidate with no input from anyone else

They deliberately misread the law to illegally lock up thousands of his supporters

They illegally tried to keep him off of ballots

They kept another candidate on the ballot who demanded to be removed

 

Lord knows there's a lot more, but the bottom line is that they cheated. A lot. It just wasn't going to be enough because the Biden/Harris administration has been such a failure that they rehabilitated Trump enough that he's actually going to win a majority of the popular vote.

* The amount of nonsense created by his haters led to a kid taking a shot at him and missing his brain by millimeters 

 

- People might be forgetting one of the biggest eye openers for some 

1 minute ago, The_Omega said:

 

Time to catalog the threats to Democracy.

Thats just you from 4 years ago

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

 idk. i just saw this mf'er in commercials about 50 times a day for the past few months. 

It happened on multiple occasions with them

Quote

Luggage thefts
A July 2022 incident resulted in a second arrest warrant, issued on December 8, 2022, for grand larceny after investigators matched Brinton to security camera footage of the theft at Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas. The case had been closed for lack of an identifiable suspect until news broke about Brinton's Minneapolis arrest. In April 2023, Brinton pleaded no contest to stealing the Las Vegas luggage, was sentenced to pay $3,670.74 in restitution for the stolen luggage and clothes, and was given a suspended jail term of 180 days.

Also in 2022, Brinton was charged with felony theft after allegedly stealing a woman's suitcase from a Minneapolis–Saint Paul International Airport baggage carousel on September 16. If they were convicted, these charges could carry a five-year sentence.[44] On February 15, 2023, Brinton appeared in court in Hennepin County, Minnesota, and was released without bail. In April 2023, they entered an adult diversion program that required them to undergo a mental health evaluation, return stolen property, and do community service.

In February 2023, the Tanzanian fashion designer Asya Khamsin said she had recognized her custom-designed clothing, lost in a March 2018 airline luggage disappearance at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport in Washington, D.C., being worn by Brinton in photos. She filed a police report in Houston after seeing the photos, and on May 17, 2023, Brinton's home was searched and Brinton was arrested by the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority; the expected charge was grand larceny.

In July 2024, the National Review reported that Brinton pled guilty to misdemeanor petit larceny in Virginia as part of a plea deal, resulting in no jail time. A civil case filed by Khamsin in Maryland was settled after Brinton paid her compensation and wrote an apology letter which Khamsin considered "quite personal, sensitive, sincere, and heartfelt".

 

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

And you wonder why we laugh at you…

may history forget you were our countryman

Haha, I'm sure it's very tough for you that the retarded Jamaican communist lost, but eat sheet, loser.   

4 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

They changed the law to make his, and only his, legal actions retroactively illegal.

They illegally leaked unverified grand jury and investigatory testimony.

They tag teamed him during the debate

They edited her interviews

They filed so many illegal voter registrations that a judge had to extend early voting

They made bomb threats

They used the federal government to fund NGOs to campaign for her

They swapped out their losing candidate with no input from anyone else

They deliberately misread the law to illegally lock up thousands of his supporters

They illegally tried to keep him off of ballots

They kept another candidate on the ballot who demanded to be removed

 

Lord knows there's a lot more, but the bottom line is that they cheated. A lot. It just wasn't going to be enough because the Biden/Harris administration has been such a failure that they rehabilitated Trump enough that he's actually going to win a majority of the popular vote.

A big meh from me on all of that drizzle

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We have objective metrics to determine the health of an economy. But we found out that understanding those metrics is too high a bar for a majority of Americans. 

There are objective measures like low unemployment and decrease in inflation. Those metrics may be a high bar for some but people only know what they feel and see on a daily basis. 

For some average every day people groceries are still high for, rent is continuing to increase, and their income isn’t keeping. So seeing unemployment low and the stock market doesn’t do anything to quell stressors in their daily life. 

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Biggest questions going forward, in my mind

1. Who is going to serve in this cabinet? Trump basically chased away experienced, temperate and qualified Republicans from his administration last time; by the end, it was made up primarily of Trump loyalists. Putting aside the insane ideas like RFK Jr. as head of he FDA, who steps into these roles? I'm guessing Vance will be heavily involved in the transition (likely runs it), so I'd expect a lot of his people in cabinet positions. The most intriguing question to me is... 

2. Does Lina Khan survive as head of the FTC? Under a traditional GOP administration, she'd be the first one fired. But Vance seems to be a fan of hers (https://nypost.com/2024/10/15/us-news/j-d-vance-hints-elon-musk-and-lina-khan-could-be-in-trump-admin-i-agree-with-them-both-on-some-issues/), and her focus on breaking up big tech will be appealing to Trump. Dumping her is what Wall Street wants, but guys like Thiel want her attacking big tech. This one will be fascinating.

3. Does he really do the tariffs? I think he clearly wants to, and the question will be can responsible adults stop him? If he does enact the tariffs, the resulting inflation and economic slowdown will be painful. Just have to hope those around him keep this to bluster only.

4. How screwed is Ukraine? Trump will likely try and force Zelensky to give up material territorial concessions by threatening to cut aid. It's simply a question of how much territory Russia gains. I'd expect this to happen fast.

5. Does Israel get more of a green light with Iran? I'd expect Trump to back Bibi in getting more aggressive with Iran, including targeting nuclear facilities.

6. NATO? Who the eff knows.

1) it’s going to be a combo of Heritage, Vance and Peter Theil being the puppet master (you probably know the guy, put in a good word so I can make Mike do hard labor)

2) I think she stays. The banks went hard for Dems recently. Trump will want payback.

3) Yes, but not on the scale and scope he talks about. They’ll target specific industries and countries like China. Probably get some concessions late in his term so China can get their hands on more dollars and Trump claims victory.

4) Agreed. I’d expect this to happen relatively quickly… 6 to 12 months, 18 tops. Though I also think he’ll go stick and carrot with Putin and threaten to open up the arsenal to Ukraine if Putin isn’t reasonable.

5) Talked to some friends in DC about this who have some insight. The running theory is Trump gives Israel the biggest green light they could possibly want, but it comes with a timer. Basically they’ll have a set amount of time to go medieval but he’ll want peace made eventually so he can take credit. 

6) Pacific pivot but we aren’t leaving NATO. It’s what the pentagon wants anyway. Germany and France re-arm. The US takes a smaller (but still leading) role and forces Europe into some self dependency.

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Trump winning the popular probably means the GOP was doing the cheating

Have you ever seen someone so broken by a single man? It's Fing hilarious.  

3 minutes ago, binkybink77 said:

Hey don’t get it twisted. Murr is an Eagles fan!

A Giants fan wearing Eagles gear?

 

Always the cross dresser....

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

* The amount of nonsense created by his haters led to a kid taking a shot at him and missing his brain by millimeters 

 

- People might be forgetting one of the biggest eye openers for some 

There is no brain in that head

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

Have you ever seen someone so broken by a single man? It's Fing hilarious.  

Yup. You since biden won