6 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

 

 

2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

dems are historically stupid & will probably think the solution is to go further left. 

If losing to Trump twice isn't going beat some sense into them then I don't know what will. 

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

You also picked Trump in the poll. 

I’m aware my ideas are unpopular 

Just now, mayanh8 said:

If losing to Trump twice isn't going beat some sense into them then I don't know what will. 

The loud external calls are going to be about doubling down. At least to start. 

4 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

Tim Walz!

 

White guys 4 Harris!

Moss got them all right in the polls I believe - I think it might be time to admit that he's a genius 

7 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

I hope this is a joke 

If it isn’t the business just passes the cost down and then eventually the consumer pays the higher cost. I have noticed people only mentioned finished goods from countries like China, but the US also sources raw materials  like minerals that cannot be sourced domestically. 

It is, should've laid the sarcasm on thicker. 

6 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Something is going to have to change. I read someplace - don't remember where - that if benefits were reduced to 85% of current levels there would be no problem. The other thing that gripes me is if Social Security were mostly a retirement fund instead of of what it is today, there wouldn't be a problem. How many able bodied people under the age of 65 are getting Social Security and Medicaid benefits? I don't know the percentage and I'm sure 'the swamp' don't want to talk about it.

You messed that up somehow. That isn’t my quote. It’s spider’s. 

7 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Something is going to have to change. I read someplace - don't remember where - that if benefits were reduced to 85% of current levels there would be no problem. The other thing that gripes me is if Social Security were mostly a retirement fund instead of of what it is today, there wouldn't be a problem. How many able bodied people under the age of 65 are getting Social Security and Medicaid benefits? I don't know the percentage and I'm sure 'the swamp' don't want to talk about it.

Look, Social Security shouldn't even be a real thing. The government shouldn't be in the retirement business for anyone other than people who have serious issues or are incapable of earning enough to save for retirement. The entire program should be unwound and people should get the money back that they put into it. The problem I have with Trump is I don't trust him or Republicans to get greedy and not try to privatize it.

Just now, Dave Moss said:

I’m aware my ideas are unpopular 

Btw - Let Munson know that he can finally throw in the towel with identity politics and go back to class based positions. Munson was wrong all along as I said he would be. 

5 hours ago, kiwieagle said:

15 months after Trumpy last won presidency, Eages won the SB.

So I guess we have that to look forward to in Feb 26. Sucks that it’s in San Fran though. 

4 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

Did you not read what I posted? I said the whole Democrat identity platform isn't working and needs to be tossed out with the bathwater. Run on issues the majority of Americans care about. The simple fact is you can't be the party of black and gay people in a white, Christian country and expect to have sustained success. Obama, while black, was an issues candidate. Or at least spoke like one. 

I did read what you posted and that's why I responded that identity politics is all they have because their policies directly hurt whites/Christians (and really all middle-class earners). So they have to rile up minorities through identity politics because they need the turnout considering minorities and clueless whites are all they have left as potential voters. 

4 hours ago, mayanh8 said:

Just woke up and holy sh** it's already over. 

Hoo boy. OK...

I know.  I got a good night sleep thinking we would find out sometime early afternoon\evening.  

 

 

I'm also surprised this thread didn't have 50 new pages and I could actually go through it to catch up.  You idiots were being.... civil?   

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

Moss got them all right in the polls I believe - I think it might be time to admit that he's a genius 

Blind squirrel / nut

4 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

i guess the simulated bj put him over the top. 

For some folks here, it's a happy ending.

28 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

BS. McConnell may have some restraint but Trump sure as hell won't.

He wants to politicize the Fed FFS.

McConnell can't walk in a straight line.

You're still butthurt about the Supreme Court opening in 2016 - except that in prior years when there was such an opening in similar circumstances, the party controlling the Senate would never put up a nominee of a lame duck president of the opposite party.

Honestly, it's just such attitudes on the part of you people that created the massive Republican win last night.  Own up to your own shortcomings for a change.  The American people put the likes of you and your cohorts on notice whether you like it or not.

10 minutes ago, TEW said:

I think he will have a quiet presidency — in a good way. He only has 4 years so he ultimately can’t get much done.

Hopefully he deescalates at least 1 of the two major conflicts, basic bish GOP tax policies, and improves border security/immigration.

I’m not expecting miracles, just marginal improvement.

From a criminal.  Good luck with that.

11 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

dems are historically stupid & will probably think the solution is to go further left. 

Yup

Just now, DiPros said:

From a lawfare victim who was subjected to malicious criminal prosecution for political purposes only.

FYP

And FWIW, there needs to be consequences for the illegal lawfare that was used against Trump.  This cannot become the norm.

Speaking of catching up.....

  

2 hours ago, Toastrel said:

Nope. A lot of states, PA for example, do not count early votes until election day.

 

Looking bad, but not over yet.

 

2 hours ago, DiPros said:

Historic.  A convicted felon going back to the WH. How can anyone be proud to be an American today?  
 

I guess SOMEONE here doesn't believe in second chances  

Just now, Kz! said:

I did read what you posted and that's why I responded that identity politics is all they have because their policies directly hurt whites/Christians (and really all middle-class earners). So they have to rile up minorities through identity politics because they need the turnout considering minorities and clueless whites are all they have left as potential voters. 

I'm acknowledging that what you are describing is a problem and they need to not do that. They need to run on real issues that affect everyone and not just black and trans people. Winning an argument against an incoherent Donald Trump on economic, immigration, and abortion rights policies should NOT be as difficult as Democrats made it. 

4 minutes ago, paco said:

I know.  I got a good night sleep thinking we would find out sometime early afternoon\evening.  

 

 

I'm also surprised this thread didn't have 50 new pages and I could actually go through it to catch up.  You idiots were being.... civil?   

Dems in here saw what was happening and had absolutely nothing to say.  😅😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣

Just now, DrPhilly said:

The loud external calls are going to be about doubling down. At least to start. 

I think this is the best part about Trump. People talk about the chaos candidate, but they don’t truly understand what it means.

He’s forced a realignment of BOTH parties. Neo-cons fled the GOP for the Democratic Party, which is both fantastic and actually a more natural home for them.

But as you say, the question is if they go off the wall crazy left or try to move towards the middle.

I’m guessing it looks something like this:

Economic populist collectivism. Lots of government programs, tax hikes on corporations and the wealthy.

Foreign policy neutrality. This is actually the biggest question. Dems were leading the Ukraine War chants. Neo-cons defected to them. Do neo-cons get kicked out or find a new parasitic host? Their base is flat out for Palestine which goes against everything the neocons believe in. This is one to watch

Social issues — pound abortion, moderate on LGBTQFOGTAG issues, at least as far as public visibility. Maybe try to spur some gun rights restrictions the next time a mass shooting happens, but that seems more like a talking point than a policy possibility.