November 6, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won. Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against. Yep. It’s their own "elitism” that they can’t seem to admit or care to understand. Let them keep thinking they’re right - to their own demise.
November 6, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said: You should see my FB feed. Friends demanding they get unfriended if you voted for Trump. The amount of people completely triggered seems even worse than 2016. Meh - Bless their hearts I'll never get all of that honestly. Move on people. The sun will rise again tomorrow.
November 6, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: We're all here taking our licks so F off with that "own up to your shortcomings" nonsense. Not a single person in here actually believes that what what McConnell did in 2016 wasn't completely out of political bounds. And I'd argue that one singular act, along with Obama's tan suit, radically reshaped American politics. From that point on good faith political discourse was out the window. If anybody was going to give you crap it would have been me. You don't need to take any licks. We trolled the crap out of each other and fought for what we believed was best for the country we love and we move on.
November 6, 20241 yr Just now, paco said: Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won. Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against. "Another 4 years of calling half the country NSDAPs and racists will surely get them to vote for us next election!" - Dems probably
November 6, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, paco said: Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won. Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against. And think the GOP self reflected after trump?? They already doubled down on the stupid
November 6, 20241 yr So is it president convict trump convict president trump dictator trump overlord trump Trying to get the naming right
November 6, 20241 yr Just now, Kz! said: Right, and I'm saying it's their only option because their policies are horrible for white people and christians. Did you ever think it was weird that Kamala couldn't articulate any coherent plan to improve people's lives? How she couldn't answer simple softball questions about what she'd do different from Biden? Did you think it was weird that they were dressing Walz up in hunting gear and parading him out there to make a fool of himself on a weird hunting trip? Did you think it was weird that they were campaigning on the idea that Harris and Walz were huge supporters of the 2nd amendment? They had nothing to focus on besides abortion and orange man bad because their policies are awful for normal, white Americans. So no, they can't transition away from identity politics to focus on their "good policies" because their policies promote inflation, out of control government spending, high crime, illegal immigration etc. They have to lean into racial grievances because minorities and brainwashed whites are the only people who vote for them. You're describing what the party is now. I'm saying the whole minority equality platform (which requires white dudes like me to care enough to carry the water for someone else's benefit) needs to die in a fire and DNC leadership needs to give way to people who will create a platform on the issues that a plurality of Americans actually care about.
November 6, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said: Ukraine and Isreal are already going to test him These are the two things I am most anxious about. Well this and what he does surrounding renewables. For renewables I think offshore wind takes a beating, but the rest (onshore wind and solar) will continue to see incentives. A good bit of that funding goes to red states. Still, glad I got my home solar system already in place.
November 6, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said: If there’s anything to look forward to, it’s HE’s student loans being reinstated. With interest, hopefully.
November 6, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, Paul852 said: We all need to take a moment to enjoy this. This forum will never be this good again. Savor these remaining years. Something tells me CVON is just getting warmed up.
November 6, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said: Ukraine and Isreal are already going to test him I can't decide which butthurt I like better. The predictable butthurt from libtards or the butthurt from the Never Trumper/Nimrata Haley faction of the GOP who are so stupid they'd prefer 4 more years of the democratic party importing and amnestying illegals into swing states to permanently change the electorate because they hate orange man so much. This dude hates Trump so much he actually convinced himself Harris was a good candidate.
November 6, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, paco said: Yet.... there will be (many) democrats that are convinced that 50% of the country is in a cult and that's the only conceivable reason why Trump won. Which means there won't be much needed self reflection in the party and likely double down on the same BS that people are resisting against. MAGA is a cult and the Democrat party imploding doesn't change that. The 10M that stayed home and didn't vote or went 3rd party aren't cult members and they're the ones that decided this election.
November 6, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: You're describing what the party is now. I'm saying the whole minority equality platform (which requires white dudes like me to care enough to carry the water for someone else's benefit) needs to die in a fire and DNC leadership needs to give way to people who will create a platform on the issues that a plurality of Americans actually care about. Oh, if you're saying you want the dems to abandon their current disastrous policies and come up with things that might actually benefit white americans, I'm fine that. Or you could just drop the tribal affinity and start voting for a party whose policies already do that and vote republican.
November 6, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: For three years he had excellent fortune. There were no major crises to handle. Trump is awful in a crisis. All he knows how to do is point fingers. Let's hope nothing major tests him. Disagree. The world was stable because the world was scared shitless of Trump. There’s an anecdote where he was negotiating with (I think — going off memory) the Taliban and he straight up pulled the GPS coordinates of the leaders families and told them he’d kill everyone they’d ever known if they didn’t get in line. No one wanted to F with him because they knew he’d F them up 10 times worse. That’s why Putin waited for him to leave office. But you can look at COVID and his response and it was a resounding success. Operation warp speed was a miracle. The economy did relatively well under arguably the most trying time in history. I wish he were in office instead of Biden — Ukraine wouldn’t have been invaded. That’s for damn sure.
November 6, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I just liked three @ToastJenkins posts da F??? Same, especially that last one on self-reflection. I was like, "this MF'er spittin".
November 6, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: So is it president convict trump convict president trump dictator trump overlord trump Trying to get the naming right Emperor. Emperor Trump.
November 6, 20241 yr If there's one thing I'm holding out hope for in a second Trump term, it's busting up the unions, starting with the teamsters and longshoremen.
November 6, 20241 yr Where is Kamala and why hasn't she publicly conceded yet? Does she have cause to contest the results - or was Jamie Raskin serious?
November 6, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: It was none of things, howeverl and you contradict your "chaos” comments It was the best presidency of the 21st century. Not saying much, but it was. Best economy and best foreign policy outcomes. That’s just an objective fact. And no, I didn’t contradict anything.
November 6, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, TEW said: Disagree. The world was stable because the world was scared shitless of Trump. There’s an anecdote where he was negotiating with (I think — going off memory) the Taliban and he straight up pulled the GPS coordinates of the leaders families and told them he’d kill everyone they’d ever known if they didn’t get in line. No one wanted to F with him because they knew he’d F them up 10 times worse. That’s why Putin waited for him to leave office. But you can look at COVID and his response and it was a resounding success. Operation warp speed was a miracle. The economy did relatively well under arguably the most trying time in history. I wish he were in office instead of Biden — Ukraine wouldn’t have been invaded. That’s for damn sure. That logic is hilarious
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