November 11, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: I don't get why they're giving him such a hard time. He's been in public service for 5 decades. They're saying "he should have dropped out sooner", but they all huddled together and lied about his condition (like a lot of you did) for at least a year. They had the ability to primary him against his will but they didn't. They made a calculation and they lost. Now the world has to wait and see what crazy shite will or won't happen. Try the truth on for size just once, left. It just might suit you. Turns out the advanced age and cognitive fitness of a presidential candidate isn't the deal breaker some were expecting it to be. Even if Biden dropped out prior to the primaries, you really think the outcome would've been any different?
November 11, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Turns out the advanced age and cognitive fitness of a presidential candidate isn't the deal breaker some were expecting it to be. Even if Biden dropped out prior to the primaries, you really think the outcome would've been any different? It could have been, but the Dems don’t really have much depth at the bench. It didn’t help that the Biden comms team was complete and total ish at their jobs. They kept trying to downplay inflation instead of trying to tack it to Trump. People didn’t blame Obama for the ish growth, they blamed it on Bush. They went on about Trumps crap Rona policies, but they didn’t stop to think they maybe should have pegged the economy to him, too. So they just Emperor’s clothes themselves to death. And then they doubled down and didn’t highlight anything good. DJIA was through the roof, but they didn’t highlight it. If you’re going to have a good comms team, you need to start by having a WH director of comms who is a real AH. In terms of Harris, let’s face it, how many of us actually voted for her and not against Orange Benito?
November 11, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Turns out the advanced age and cognitive fitness of a presidential candidate isn't the deal breaker some were expecting it to be. Even if Biden dropped out prior to the primaries, you really think the outcome would've been any different? No. And you and I both know that your comparison of Biden's obvious dementia to Trump's idiosyncrasies is and always has been just another lie (is he leaning forward? is he leaning forward? Look! He's leaning forward!) Oh and Trump didn't have the energy to make appearances in the closing weeks, right? Right? It's about having an arms race. You put the candidates in a crucible and see what survives. You don't turn some poor old guy into Bernie Lomax, then when everyone catches on replace him 3 months before the convention with some semi-daft tart that probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. When someone tells you, "we can't pass her over because she's a woman of color", you already have a problem. You don't do that. You maximize your chances. Trump may have won no matter what, but the margin does matter, and more so the process you use to choose candidates matter. Also, I wank it to Shari Lewis and Lambchop.
November 11, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Bill said: It could have been, but the Dems don’t really have much depth at the bench. It didn’t help that the Biden comms team was complete and total ish at their jobs. They kept trying to downplay inflation instead of trying to tack it to Trump. People didn’t blame Obama for the ish growth, they blamed it on Bush. They went on about Trumps crap Rona policies, but they didn’t stop to think they maybe should have pegged the economy to him, too. So they just Emperor’s clothes themselves to death. And then they doubled down and didn’t highlight anything good. DJIA was through the roof, but they didn’t highlight it. If you’re going to have a good comms team, you need to start by having a WH director of comms who is a real AH. In terms of Harris, let’s face it, how many of us actually voted for her and not against Orange Benito? Not sure better messaging from the current administration gets a dem candidate across the finish line. The people receptive to that sort of messaging were likely already voting blue.
November 11, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: No. And you and I both know that your comparison of Biden's obvious dementia to Trump's idiosyncrasies is and always has been just another lie (is he leaning forward? is he leaning forward? Look! He's leaning forward!) Oh and Trump didn't have the energy to make appearances in the closing weeks, right? Right? It's about having an arms race. You put the candidates in a crucible and see what survives. You don't turn some poor old guy into Bernie Lomax, then when everyone catches on replace him 3 months before the convention with some semi-daft tart that probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. When someone tells you, "we can't pass her over because she's a woman of color", you already have a problem. You don't do that. You maximize your chances. Trump may have won no matter what, but the margin does matter, and more so the process you use to choose candidates matter. Also, I wank it to Shari Lewis and Lambchop. No more a lie than you just now claiming Harris was semi-daft when compared to the opposition. As for the process, Biden's timing was bad but an open primary would've been a disaster. The margins would've been even worse for whichever bloodied candidate emerged from a fractured party that late in the game.
November 11, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: No more a lie than you just now claiming Harris was semi-daft when compared to the opposition. Fair response, though I'd hate to think I said Trump is smarter. I kind of insulted her, I guess. If you're saying that Biden was perfectly sound a year ago I guess I'll take your word for it and that of Sideshow Roberta. 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: As for the process, Biden's timing was bad but an open primary would've been a disaster. The margins would've been even worse for whichever bloodied candidate emerged from a fractured party that late in the game. I wasn't saying Biden should have dropped out, I'm saying they shouldn't have given him a choice in the matter. I thought I was clear about that but I may have been distracted watching a redhead make out with an ovine sock puppet. I have issues.
November 11, 20241 yr Just now, Arthur Jackson said: Fair response, though I'd hate to think I said Trump is smarter You didn't but as you implied in your opening statement, it's all rooted as comparisons to the opposition. So are you trying to say the gap in cognitive fitness between Biden and Trump is actually bigger than the gap in intellect between Harris and Trump?
November 11, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: You didn't but as you implied in your opening statement, it's all rooted as comparisons to the opposition. So are you trying to say the gap in cognitive fitness between Biden and Trump is actually bigger than the gap in intellect between Harris and Trump? No. I called her daft (qualified deliberately by the prefix "semi") because that's my qualitative assessment, probably coloured slightly by a well-earned misogyny. I didn't proctor an IQ test. Nor did I administer FMRIs to Trump and Biden. I apologize and I prostate myself before you. Get some rest and do better in 2026.
November 11, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said: I don't get why they're giving him such a hard time. He's been in public service for 5 decades. They're saying "he should have dropped out sooner", but they all huddled together and lied about his condition (like a lot of you did) for at least a year. They had the ability to primary him against his will but they didn't. They made a calculation and they lost. Now the world has to wait and see what crazy shite will or won't happen. Try the truth on for size just once, left. It just might suit you. You have a vivid imagination.
November 11, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said: No. I called her daft (qualified deliberately by the prefix "semi") because that's my qualitative assessment, probably coloured slightly by a well-earned misogyny. I didn't proctor an IQ test. Nor did I administer FMRIs to Trump and Biden. I apologize and I prostate myself before you. Get some rest and do better in 2026. Procus writes stuff smarter than this. Stick to dumb jokes
November 11, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Procus writes stuff smarter than this. Stick to dumb jokes most of the stuff I write goes straight over your head
November 11, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Biden actually cares about Americans and fate of the nation. That would be the hope, wouldn't it?
November 11, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, Procus said: most of the stuff I write goes straight over your head Yes, because I don’t comprehend the lingo of fake attorneys.
November 11, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said: That would be the hope, wouldn't it? Not sure what could've have shaped your world view to have questioned that, but yeah that's always the hope. As we've seen, some clearly care more than others.
November 11, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, Bill said: It could have been, but the Dems don’t really have much depth at the bench. It didn’t help that the Biden comms team was complete and total ish at their jobs. They kept trying to downplay inflation instead of trying to tack it to Trump. People didn’t blame Obama for the ish growth, they blamed it on Bush. They went on about Trumps crap Rona policies, but they didn’t stop to think they maybe should have pegged the economy to him, too. So they just Emperor’s clothes themselves to death. And then they doubled down and didn’t highlight anything good. DJIA was through the roof, but they didn’t highlight it. If you’re going to have a good comms team, you need to start by having a WH director of comms who is a real AH. In terms of Harris, let’s face it, how many of us actually voted for her and not against Orange Benito? People keep talking about how Democrats suck at explaining things to voters. We need to take a step back here and take a look at the 1000ft view. If you asked the average American voter who voted for Trump how inflation works, they couldn't tell you. Not because they haven't had it explained to them ad nauseum, but because they just aren't capable of understanding advanced concepts. You tell them about how the CHIPS Act and Infrastructure bills have helped them and their families, or how inflation is a result of the stimulus needed to fix Trump's COVID economic malpractice and their eyes just glaze over. There's a reason why more than half of the country responds to Trumps 3rd grade arguments... it's because even though they're factually incorrect, it's presented in a way they actually understand the words. You want to know what the single most common Trump yard sign is here in the VA hinterlands? The game has changed. The Trump campaign understood that this time and understood Trump's appeal to the majority of Americans... he talks to them on their level. The formula is super simple. Find the few things that voters don't like and just yell and scream about how terrible it is and how you're going to fix it. Don't explain how. Voters don't really care about that. If they did then Trump wouldn't have been elected because he can't formulate a single advanced thought. Just yell and scream about how much more terrible their lives are from those few things they aren't happy about promise them that the current administration is the one to blame and that you'll easily fix it. Democrats need to stop relying on political strategies that worked for them decades ago and start getting down into the mud where most people actually live their lives.
November 11, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: You didn't but as you implied in your opening statement, it's all rooted as comparisons to the opposition. So are you trying to say the gap in cognitive fitness between Biden and Trump is actually bigger than the gap in intellect between Harris and Trump? When little dude gets completely wrecked in a conversation he picks some random, inconsequential point of the post and starts fervently attacking it to save face. "You called Harris semi-daft does that mean you don't concede she's not smarter than the other candidate? Well then does that mean that you think there isn't a bigger intelligence gap between Harris and Trump than there was between Biden and Trump? Hmmm? Checkmate." I've said this many times, but he could not come off smaller and more pathetic through text if he tried.
November 11, 20241 yr Good reminder that even thought Trump crushed the dems thoroughly, there is still an incredible amount of fraud going on and a lot of people need to go to jail.
November 11, 20241 yr Imagine telling a Democrat in 2012 that the GOP would get nearly 50% if Latino zoomers with a policy of mass deportation.
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