3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, Ngata was the opposite of Tyree Jackson. They put the spotlight on him and he failed. I don't even want him on the PS. 

All Devon Allen did was produce when given the chance. They threw WR screens to him and he made plays out of them (rare for Eagles WR). He showed he has juice as a KR and would be a threat to break one every time. At the very least, that effects how a team kicks to him. He showed he has the tools to be an elite gunner, something the Eagles lost with McPhearson. Allen made the team last night IMO.

If Ojomo is healthy, the job is his. I think Street has trade value, even if a 2025 7th. Like you said, you go with Ojomo's upside and versatility right now. He doesn't have to play a big role but he can grow in to one, especially if Milton Williams plays himself in to a big FA deal and moves on.

Ricks is on the team.

Agree, I don't know how Covey makes it. 

Catching punts is harder than kickoffs, IMHO.  Would like to have seen Allen catching punts and frankly getting more passes.  But, that said, teams do hide some players during the last PS game that they may want to keep/steer towards the Practice Squad.  (Once @Connecticut Eagle opens the regular season Blog, PS abbreviation reverts from Pre Season to Practice Squad).  They did allow for some players, including this week’s signings, to get film.  

Ricks was more visible than Garner because he was challenged more and with greater success.  Not sure I saw anything that makes him more worthy of a spot than Tyree Jackson, Garner, or VanSumeren.  Players that don’t start need to have STs value. I could see VanSumeren in a Bradley role, for example.  Allen clearly has gunner potential and McPhearson was the number 1 gunner on the team.  Perhaps, if he has the time, @FranklinFldEBUpper could give his input in who of bottom rung players he thought  showed potential on STs, blocking, gunning, lane discipline etc.  

I’m not good at posting tweets…especially since the new X thing…but this is a very interesting clip from Peter Schrager’s podcast about Howie
 

https://x.com/pschrags/status/1694820357805351404?s=46&t=F1l6YWGGQrUrfhA-HkRxpg

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Catching punts is harder than kickoffs, IMHO.  Would like to have seen Allen catching punts and frankly getting more passes.  But, that said, teams do hide some players during the last PS game that they may want to keep/steer towards the Practice Squad.  (Once @Connecticut Eagle opens the regular season Blog, PS abbreviation reverts from Pre Season to Practice Squad).  They did allow for some players, including this week’s signings, to get film.  

Ricks was more visible than Garner because he was challenged more and with greater success.  Not sure I saw anything that makes him more worthy of a spot than Tyree Jackson, Garner, or VanSumeren.  Players that don’t start need to have STs value. I could see VanSumeren in a Bradley role, for example.  Allen clearly has gunner potential and McPhearson was the number 1 gunner on the team.  Perhaps, if he has the time, @FranklinFldEBUpper could give his input in who of bottom rung players he thought  showed potential on STs, blocking, gunning, lane discipline etc.  

The only reason I don't think Allen is a PR is because he's 100% straight line speed. He really lacks that quick burst, make the first man miss trait. Even on the WR screen, you could see it took him an extra step to get in to gear. I want him to be good and I want him to be on the team but I don't know.

Justin Evans is a guy who returned punts a bit and it looks like he's on the team. Maybe that's a solution?

I am sure that Max Gruder, Aleena Soliman and company have been watching the PS games and following other teams and consulting with the college scouting crew ready to give Howie input on the 30th and into the next week on potential pickups.  

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

The only reason I don't think Allen is a PR is because he's 100% straight line speed. He really lacks that quick burst, make the first man miss trait. Even on the WR screen, you could see it took him an extra step to get in to gear. I want him to be good and I want him to be on the team but I don't know.

Justin Evans is a guy who returned punts a bit and it looks like he's on the team. Maybe that's a solution?

I watched the All22.  Evans doesn’t make the team.  Not sure I agree on Allen and burst but he does go from 0 to 60 pretty quickly.  If you get the chance to go back and watch that return notice #21 (Eagles).  Stride for stride with him with two excellent blocks. Brown is a heady player.  Still not quite there as a S but damn close.  Brown, Edmunds and Wallace outplayed Evans, IMHO and Wallace is a strong ST player.  

A bit off track but I could see McCollum as a PS S.  Played mostly deep but showed some instinct.  Raw.

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

I watched the All22.  Evans doesn’t make the team.  Not sure I agree on Allen and burst but he does go from 0 to 60 pretty quickly.  If you get the chance to go back and watch that return notice #21 (Eagles).  Stride for stride with him with two excellent blocks. Brown is a heady player.  Still not quite there as a S but damn close.  Brown, Edmunds and Wallace outplayed Evans, IMHO and Wallace is a strong ST player.  

Burst was the wrong word. He has burst. He doesn't have any make you miss moves. He doesn't need to be Dante Hall back there but I don't see him having the ability to shake the first man down the field.  KR is ideal for him though. 

 

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

First time I've seen Richardson play.  He's going to be a RB who throws a bit this year isn't he?  On a harsh single viewing of his rookie per-season,looks to be drastically over drafted.  He's rawer than a steak that is still in a mooing cow

Ricks is a tough cut - the kid stands out and someone will claim him if he is cut.  Not sure Tyree Jackson makes it or not - he's oft injured and feels a PS player than a 53er.  It's not like Calcaterra has had an awful pre-season

But, Calcaterra has had an awful preseason. Or somewhat close to it.

If you head to head compare what they did in the games,  Tyree Jackson was great and Calcateera was not.  Tyree Jackson,  5 catches, 7 targets, 72 yards.  10.2 yards per target. Tops on the Eagles.
Calcaterra, 2 catches, 6 targets, 14 yards.  2.33 yards per target.

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I said it last night but I'll say it again. Trey Sermon played himself off the team last night. I've been a huge pro-Sermon/anti-Scott guy but he was given the keys to the running game last night and looked EHHH. He didn't look bad by any means, but nothing he did said that guy needs to be on this team more than Scott or he deserves a spot on this team over some of the other guys in deep position battles.

If the Colts trade Jonathan Taylor and need a RB, they got an up close look last night and wouldn't be shocked to see him dealt to the Colts. Either that, or he gets cut and claimed.

I think the Eagles have a very strong 56 players and the last cuts will be tough. I think guys like VanSumeren, Garner, Robinson and #49 earned themselves PS spots last night but the rest of their players can move on. 

None of the young WR showed any juice or reason to even keep them on the PS. Kennedy Brooks isn't an NFL back. The young OL didn't step up. Tarron Jackson is what he is at this point and that's not much. 

I know it won't happen, but I'd rather see 10-12 guys brought in from other teams to the PS instead of hanging on to guys they know but don't offer much of anything. 

I think Russell and Arnold would be worthwhile to keep.  Russell has been a good ST in the past. Arnold is similar.  Haselwood and Ngata are PS candidates. Ngata has upside despite his struggles last night.  I think Sermon should be kept on the PS. I also think Julian Good-Jones looked OK and he has center versatility.  I am all for upgrading the roster but it's not like teams are cutting players that are clearly better than what the Eagles have.  

31 minutes ago, McMVP said:

I’m not good at posting tweets…especially since the new X thing…but this is a very interesting clip from Peter Schrager’s podcast about Howie
 

https://x.com/pschrags/status/1694820357805351404?s=46&t=F1l6YWGGQrUrfhA-HkRxpg

 

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

First time I've seen Richardson play.  He's going to be a RB who throws a bit this year isn't he?  On a harsh single viewing of his rookie per-season,looks to be drastically over drafted.  He's rawer than a steak that is still in a mooing cow

Ricks is a tough cut - the kid stands out and someone will claim him if he is cut.  Not sure Tyree Jackson makes it or not - he's oft injured and feels a PS player than a 53er.  It's not like Calcaterra has had an awful pre-season

When they flashed Richardson's stats from Florida: Only played 12 games with 54% completion, you wonder why he was drafted so high.  That certainly is putting a lot of faith in being able to develop him.

21 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I watched the All22.  Evans doesn’t make the team.  Not sure I agree on Allen and burst but he does go from 0 to 60 pretty quickly.  If you get the chance to go back and watch that return notice #21 (Eagles).  Stride for stride with him with two excellent blocks. Brown is a heady player.  Still not quite there as a S but damn close.  Brown, Edmunds and Wallace outplayed Evans, IMHO and Wallace is a strong ST player.  

On the BWF podcast, they have been saying that Evans is ahead of Edmunds and Wallace on the depth chart.  I don't see it based on his play in games.  Brown looks like he's going to be a good player.  Wallace has looked better this pre-season but I am not sure he's outplayed Evans. I think they go heavy on safety and light on LBs.  My guess is they go Elliss, Dean and Cunningham.  I can see Morrow making the team but he might be a veteran cut that gets re-signed so his contract isn't fully guaranteed.  I am not sure I am as in on Van Sumeren as others.  He plays fast but he his tackling hasn't impressed me.  

13 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

But, Calcaterra has had an awful preseason. Or somewhat close to it.

If you head to head compare what they did in the games,  Tyree Jackson was great and Calcateera was not.  Tyree Jackson,  5 catches, 7 targets, 72 yards.  10.2 yards per target. Tops on the Eagles.
Calcaterra, 2 catches, 6 targets, 14 yards.  2.33 yards per target.

Remember who the QBs were as well. Grant had Mariota over throwing him, Jackson had Tanner. Makes a big difference. 

I'm a Jackson fan since we picked him up 2 years ago but Grant's stats lacking in preseason has a lot of static behind it.

1 hour ago, TEW said:

I mean, Richardson doesn’t just have great physical gifts, he has top 3 of all time physical gifts and arguably #1 … of all time.

To me that’s different than a run of the mill talented but raw QB. And the context is a draft that wasn’t very strong at QB. So you gamble on greatness, because you aren’t going to get a chance to acquire that skill set ever again.

Richardson’s biggest knock is his lack of experience. I do think sitting him for half a season might benefit him, but he needs to play as well. It’s a tough spot. He can learn the playbook but he also needs to play because he didn’t play much in college.

At the position where they matter least but has the most impact on the team

2 minutes ago, PhillyMG said:

When they flashed Richardson's stats from Florida: Only played 12 games with 54% completion, you wonder why he was drafted so high.  That certainly is putting a lot of faith in being able to develop him.

YOU DOUBT JIM IRSAY?!!

 

 

Just now, PhillyMG said:

When they flashed Richardson's stats from Florida: Only played 12 games with 54% completion, you wonder why he was drafted so high.  That certainly is putting a lot of faith in being able to develop him.

 You saw why he warranted the pick last night.  He has an incredible upside as a QB.  If Steichen gives him simple reads and outlets, he will develop.  He looked accurate to me last night with only a few throws that were high.  His mechanics looked better than I expected.  He seemed decisive.  He looked better to me than what I have seen from either CJ Stroud or Bryce Young.  

26 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

A bit off track but I could see McCollum as a PS S.  Played mostly deep but showed some instinct.  Raw.

I have had him on my PS for quite awhile.  I doubt he has any trouble getting through waivers.

31 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Burst was the wrong word. He has burst. He doesn't have any make you miss moves. He doesn't need to be Dante Hall back there but I don't see him having the ability to shake the first man down the field.  KR is ideal for him though. 

Given his other vocation … hurdling … I think he can develop the lateral nimbleness needed to make oncoming players miss him.  

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

At the position where they matter least but has the most impact on the team

NFL offenses aren't 7 step drop back offenses anymore.  Running QBs and option plays are the norm.  Richardson has elite skills that can be utlized as long as he's healthy. 

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Given his other vocation … hurdling … I think he can develop the lateral nimbleness needed to make oncoming players miss him.  

Hurdling is 100% straight line keeping your hips as linear as possible. I don't think you can just develop lateral quickness. Just look at Quez Watkins. He's straight line speed. I don't think anyone thinks Quez can improve his lateral quickness. 

I'm not saying Allen can't return punts, I just think he's a straight line speed guy.

To be clear the Colts drafted Richardson for what he might be in years 3-12.

He's going to be awful this year.  45% completions, 65 passer rating, 20 picks, 25 fumbles.

He might get some fantasy league rushing stats in 14+ point losses.

49 minutes ago, Utebird said:

It's why he keeps getting chances, because if he could put it all together he has ability to be a weapon, not sure he'll ever put it together.

Also graham was unstoppable In the end zone, he was just too big and could just jump over dudes for tds, if tyree had that ability we would have seen it by now 

We have seen it in practices.  Aside from the star TE, Tyree is the best TE the Eagles have.

I haven't seen any indication that Tyree hasn't put it together.

Tyree and probably Greg Ward were the 2 best TE/WRs out there this preseason.  Tyree had 5 real targets,  within 5 yards of him, 5 catches, and the highest yards per target of the preseason, even including 2 McKee passes that didn't really get close to Tyree.  Is Tyree better than Quez?  Maybe.  I think Tyree should be the starter at the receiving TE position.  Goedert is the all around TE,  Starting TE1.  Stoll is backup TE1.  TE2 - receiving TE - is Tyree as starter and Calcaterra as backup.  

29 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think Russell and Arnold would be worthwhile to keep.  Russell has been a good ST in the past. Arnold is similar.  Haselwood and Ngata are PS candidates. Ngata has upside despite his struggles last night.  I think Sermon should be kept on the PS. I also think Julian Good-Jones looked OK and he has center versatility.  I am all for upgrading the roster but it's not like teams are cutting players that are clearly better than what the Eagles have.  

I’m willing to let Sermon move on.  His place on my PS is filled by Boston Scott.  Allen passed Scott as the KOR last night and neither Scott nor Sermon provide any STsvalue other than KOR, so I go with 3RBs on the 53 and Scott on the PS.  I agree with Haselwood and Ngata, but think there might be even better WRs available after cuts.

12 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

NFL offenses aren't 7 step drop back offenses anymore.  Running QBs and option plays are the norm.  Richardson has elite skills that can be utlized as long as he's healthy. 

Thanks Random NCiggler

8 minutes ago, Random Reglar said:

We have seen it in practices.  Aside from the star TE, Tyree is the best TE the Eagles have.

I haven't seen any indication that Tyree hasn't put it together.

Tyree and probably Greg Ward were the 2 best TE/WRs out there this preseason.  Tyree had 5 real targets,  within 5 yards of him, 5 catches, and the highest yards per target of the preseason, even including 2 McKee passes that didn't really get close to Tyree.  Is Tyree better than Quez?  Maybe.  I think Tyree should be the starter at the receiving TE position.  Goedert is the all around TE,  Starting TE1.  Stoll is backup TE1.  TE2 - receiving TE - is Tyree as starter and Calcaterra as backup.  

Is tyree better than quez???

Are you on crack again???

Quez has 3 seasons of production 

Tyree has a few catches against 3rd string defenses.

It's not really comparable 

I like Tyree, coaches really like Stoll as a blocker , not sure if they like Tyree more than calcaterra 🤷‍♂️ it's not like Grant has played bad this year  and he's a pretty athletic TE himself 

Tyree may have a chance to make roster over Calcaterra or as a 4th TE but they aren't going to keep Tyree to play more 2 TE sets over Quez who by all accounts had a really good camp and is a guy who can really stretch the field.

 

Personally I'd keep tyree over Calcaterra.

I don't think calcaterra is any better as a blocker or a receiver and Jackson has the length size advantage that makes him a good target for QBs 

We'll see how it shakes out