On 12/14/2025 at 9:41 AM, eagle45 said:

Any QB currently collecting a paycheck...including most of the NCAA ones that now collect paychecks....could get plugged into an NFL offense for 17 games and throw for 3,600 yards.

This 3600 theory fits an approximate football IQ level of buttered toast.

Brady Quinn was a 1st round pick and he could not throw for 3600 yards in 17 games. He averaged 130.

He could not throw for 3600 yards if the other teams played 10 on D.

Shedeur is on a pace for about 3570 with 49 sacks for -423 yards with 19 TDs and 21 picks. If he survived the 49 sacks and did not get benched on merit.

These are the elite of college football.

Next you have to factor in that 27 out of 32 college QBs would be beaten, broken, and humiliated if they tried to play in the NFL.

No one is given 17 games, you have to earn them.

Jaxson Dart was the Giants starter from week 3 on. He has 1802 yards in 12 weeks (3 of which he could not get on the field)

He's going for his 7th concussion check?

That's a first round pick on a 17 game pace as the starter of 2552 of partial play which is all he can do or 3403 if by some miracle he could get out for 17.

This was the 2nd QB drafted.

How's Jayden Daniels doing on that 3600 yards this year. They just plugged him in again.

Nick Foles was a SB MVP and he could never stay on the field for more than 11 starts.

He never had even 2900 yards passing.

Dak Prescott is probably going to be a 60k+ career passer.

He missed 3600 in 3 of his past 6 seasons.

CJ Stroud is not hitting 3600 this year. Are HUNDREDS of current college QBs better and tougher than CJ Stroud?

HUNDREDS of QBs are getting paid in college but we can assume your ignorance of that fact since it goes well with all the NFL ignorance.

Justin Fields is on his 5th year as an NFL starter and his best is 2562. He was picked 11th overall.

Teddy Bridgewater was a 1st round pick. He topped 3600 yards once in five tries and went 4-11 when he did it.

Kyler Murray, 1st overall pick, is 1 for his last 4 at hitting 3600 yards.

Daniel Jones is 0 for 7 at 3600 yards passing.

The guy who took Hurts job at 'bama is 1 for 6 at throwing for 3600 yards. 5th overall

Wentz was 3 for 7 at hitting 3600 yards. 2nd overall

The 4 best regular season winners in the current NFL are Mahomes, Jackson, Allen, and Hurts (Hurts pulls ahead of Allen if he beats Buffalo)

They all run the ball. Mahomes has 2665 rushing yards and 29 TDs and he scrambles all over the place.

He had 606 rushing yards and 7 rushing TDs in the playoffs.

The other 3 will murder you on the ground. Every one of those yards counts as much as a passing yard.

You can't consistently win like pocket Tom Brady in the modern NFL unless you are actually Tom Brady.

No one else does.

Rivers was a .500 QB his last 11 seasons but those 4000+ yard seasons looked good in the highlights of all the losses.

Rivers was 25-7 when he didn't throw for 3600+ and 109-99 when he did.

Brees won the SB in his 11th best passing yards season.

He was 59-52 with the Saints when he led the league in passing.

He was 83-34 when he did not.

Here is a 510 yards passing Brees game: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200611190nor.htm

Rodgers is 22-26 the last 4 years.

Joe Burrow is 17-15 over the last 3 seasons.

Matt Stafford is 3 games above Eli .500 for his career and was 22-18 from 2022-2024 with Sean McVay as his coach.

Goff was 18-13 over 2 years when McVay dumped him.

Hurts was 14-1 in 2022

He was 12-3 in 2024.

In his down years of 2023 and 2025? He is 20-11

Josh Allen had 47 picks from 2021-2023. He also ran for 2048 and 28 TDs so he went 35-15 anyway.

You can keep your imaginary 3600 rando.

I like our elite regular season wins and efficiency QB and SB MVP.

23 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Reminds me of how after one season Jayden Daniels and the Commanders were just anointed the team to beat in the East. Now look at him. Completely injury prone and he has a lower completion percentage than Jalen. To be clear Jalen deserves criticism for his play especially against the Chargers, but he’s not the only one. The most critical are the same clowns who tried to say the Eagles made the playoffs his first full season as the starter because of Kelce.

Jayden Daniels is an interesting study. It's a little early to definitively conclude he's injury prone. He came into the NFL older and more mature than average rookie QBs and the pressure didn't seem to affect him . He's a true dual-threat QB and that prevented teams from really going after him all game long. The coaches in year 1 wisely had him mostly throwing short, high completion % passes and if he didn't have an open target right away, he was successful taking off running. He had a couple miracle passes that connected and his legend grew. All the good fortune didn't carryover into his 2nd year. Obviously injuries plagued him in 2025 and, IMO, his HC is to blame. He should not have been playing late in a 4th quarter blowout loss and should not have been rushed back on to the field before that type of injury was fully healed. Daniels has all the physical tools to grow into a great NFL QB in time. Obviously it's fair to question his durability right now. But more than that, I question his desire to improve, his desire to want to be elite. Playing around with a basketball in pregame warmups, may help get him loose, but it won't make him a better QB.

Jalen Hurts, on the other hand, has proven to be extremely durable. He's also laser focused on continually getting better. Like every QB, he may have a bad game now and then, but people are usually nitpicking games where he actually played well, but simply didn't have enough passing yards for the critics. Jalen is human, imperfect, but he has been our most reliable player since he became the starter. Fans always want more, more, more ... What matters the most, though?

Playoffs

Season	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD	Awards
2021	23	PHI	NFL	QB	1	1	0-1-0	23	43	53.5	258	1	2.3	2	4.7	10	28.9	35	6.0	4.37	11.2	258.0	60.0	2	14	4.44	5.42	3.87	0	0
2022	24	PHI	NFL	QB	3	3	2-1-0	58	87	66.7	579	3	3.4	0	0.0	25	42.9	45	6.7	7.34	10.0	193.0	96.9	4	8	4.40	6.27	6.93	0	0
2023	25	PHI	NFL	QB	1	1	0-1-0	25	35	71.4	250	1	2.9	0	0.0	9	34.2	55	7.1	7.71	10.0	250.0	100.9	3	16	7.89	6.16	6.68	0	0
2024	26	PHI	NFL	QB	4	4	4-0-0	65	91	71.4	726	5	5.5	1	1.1	35	49.0	46	8.0	8.58	11.2	181.5	108.6	13	100	12.50	6.02	6.55	0	0	SB MVP
4 Yrs					9	9	6-3-0	171	256	66.8	1813	10	3.9	3	1.2	79	41.7	55	7.1	7.34	10.6	201.4	95.4	22	138	7.91	6.03	6.26	0	0

3 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Jayden Daniels is an interesting study. It's a little early to definitively conclude he's injury prone. He came into the NFL older and more mature than average rookie QBs and the pressure didn't seem to affect him . He's a true dual-threat QB and that prevented teams from really going after him all game long. The coaches in year 1 wisely had him mostly throwing short, high completion % passes and if he didn't have an open target right away, he was successful taking off running. He had a couple miracle passes that connected and his legend grew. All the good fortune didn't carryover into his 2nd year. Obviously injuries plagued him in 2025 and, IMO, his HC is to blame. He should not have been playing late in a 4th quarter blowout loss and should not have been rushed back on to the field before that type of injury was fully healed. Daniels has all the physical tools to grow into a great NFL QB in time. Obviously it's fair to question his durability right now. But more than that, I question his desire to improve, his desire to want to be elite. Playing around with a basketball in pregame warmups, may help get him loose, but it won't make him a better QB.

Jalen Hurts, on the other hand, has proven to be extremely durable. He's also laser focused on continually getting better. Like every QB, he may have a bad game now and then, but people are usually nitpicking games where he actually played well, but simply didn't have enough passing yards for the critics. Jalen is human, imperfect, but he has been our most reliable player since he became the starter. Fans always want more, more, more ... What matters the most, though?

Playoffs

Season	Age	Team	Lg	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Succ%	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD	Awards
2021	23	PHI	NFL	QB	1	1	0-1-0	23	43	53.5	258	1	2.3	2	4.7	10	28.9	35	6.0	4.37	11.2	258.0	60.0	2	14	4.44	5.42	3.87	0	0
2022	24	PHI	NFL	QB	3	3	2-1-0	58	87	66.7	579	3	3.4	0	0.0	25	42.9	45	6.7	7.34	10.0	193.0	96.9	4	8	4.40	6.27	6.93	0	0
2023	25	PHI	NFL	QB	1	1	0-1-0	25	35	71.4	250	1	2.9	0	0.0	9	34.2	55	7.1	7.71	10.0	250.0	100.9	3	16	7.89	6.16	6.68	0	0
2024	26	PHI	NFL	QB	4	4	4-0-0	65	91	71.4	726	5	5.5	1	1.1	35	49.0	46	8.0	8.58	11.2	181.5	108.6	13	100	12.50	6.02	6.55	0	0	SB MVP
4 Yrs					9	9	6-3-0	171	256	66.8	1813	10	3.9	3	1.2	79	41.7	55	7.1	7.34	10.6	201.4	95.4	22	138	7.91	6.03	6.26	0	0

When it comes down to it for me it’s all about winning.

So obviously Jalen Hurts is about to become the first quarterback in the NFC East to win the division in consecutive seasons since McNabb and the Eagles did it from 2001-2004, and that’s impressive, but do you know what’s more impressive by the reigning SB MVP? When the Eagles win this division, Jalen Hurts will become the first (AND ONLY) quarterback in NFL history to have went to the playoffs in four consecutive seasons with four different play callers. So cry for your back ups all you want, (every year it seems) but the reality of the situation is HE IS THE EAGLES GUY. If you can’t handle it then you might want to find a new team. So this ASSumption that this type of stuff just always happens is blatantly false. No quarterback goes through these types of changes year after year and is always successful except Jalen Hurts.

Despite all the OCs he's had as an Eagle, the only real drastic change was going from the Pederson coaching staff to the Sirianni one. The offense has not undergone any significant changes since Sirianni gave up play-calling in his 1st season with the Eagles.

One thing that really bothers me is watching Hurts try to get down in a scramble, half way in between a slide and a I don't know what, and he catches his foot under his glute and injures himself. How does a professional athlete not know how to slide? I remember Vick having problems with it as well. He looks like my Grandma at 88 years old trying to sit down for a picknick. I can't get the image of him with his foot trapped under his ass sideways and then getting slammed by a LBr anyway.

Sidenote, last night Stafford threw for 450 yards, 3 TDs, and no picks or sacks and lost to Darnold who threw for 270 with 2 TDs, 2 INTs, and 4 sacks. Stats don't always tell the tale.

13 minutes ago, MR-CYN said:

One thing that really bothers me is watching Hurts try to get down in a scramble, half way in between a slide and a I don't know what, and he catches his foot under his glute and injures himself. How does a professional athlete not know how to slide? I remember Vick having problems with it as well. He looks like my Grandma at 88 years old trying to sit down for a picknick. I can't get the image of him with his foot trapped under his ass sideways and then getting slammed by a LBr anyway.

Sidenote, last night Stafford threw for 450 yards, 3 TDs, and no picks or sacks and lost to Darnold who threw for 270 with 2 TDs, 2 INTs, and 4 sacks. Stats don't always tell the tale.

There were several 3 and outs as well.