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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Eagles are one of the most analytically forward thinking organizations in the league Heavily invests in the trenches Premier OL environment/culture in the league 32nd in pass attempts/1st in rush attempts Best defense in football
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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:
Eagles are one of the most analytically forward thinking organizations in the league Heavily invests in the trenches Premier OL environment/culture in the league 32nd in pass attempts/1st in rush attempts Best defense in football

The KISS offense works

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The KISS offense works

Last in pass attempts... after throwing a ton the first 4 weeks.  Still seems like they force the pass early in Gamez though. Which IMO is a huge factor in the " slow starts" offensively. 

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What coaching is needed that Hurts can grasp???

Seems like Hurts was totally making major moves leading the new O to me. Siri can’t teach..which is really just another word for coach. But he just gives up even attempting if it isn’t instant. Just like your thinking. 

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts led the league in picks by week 3,how long do you let the bleeding go on?????

In a completely new O scheme? Geez like 10 games. Or how about just a bunch of stuff that should have been occurring the whole time since the beggining of year one with Siri. AJ got hurt and only played week one. Week 3 we didn’t have tons of quality players on O…in the road in the brutal heat of TB. Holding week 3 against Hurts is just clear Hurts Hating. So you are using week one in Brazil. Which I don’t even agree that his first interception was his fault. Dickerson’s guy abused Dickerson all game. But that was the first series of the entire season…in South America..no less….out of our own Endzone. Great read by Hurts in my view. Exactly what he was being taught. Dickerson’s guy Slaton kept Hurts from finishing his throw. While Hurts was in the pocket..in his own end zone. That wasn’t any failure of Hurts learning.

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts led the league in picks by week 3,how long do you let the bleeding go on?????

Terrible way to condemn our whole fate of the franchise based on the first three weeks. Let’s actually get specific …instead of your generic stat crap. A couple interceptions weren’t Hurts fault.  Oh lord…I know…I’m actually getting to the bottom of how these stats occurred. How dare I? Some were dumb Hurts mistakes. Like him scrambling in that first game and waving AJ over to lob up the jump ball TD. Can’t do that. Absolutely nothing to do with Hurts ability to learn the O. Frankly if AJ doesn’t slip? He most likely scored a TD. Or at least doesn’t allow the interception. But I blame Hurts for taking way too much risk on that play.

But go ahead and explain to me how you are condemning the whole fate of the franchise based on Hurts ability to learn the new scheme based on what happened in TB. I actually was in favor of just resting our key guys we had that could even suit up for that game. We had no chance…whole team knew it before stepping on the plane.

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He wasn't a green rookie either. Siri has 53+ players to worry about he can't school Hurts 24/7

So him neglecting and skipping shortcutting our franchise QB from his first year on…is agreed to coaching by you? He screwed us…big time. Not skipping over coaching the third string RB…Siri committed endlessly to Gainwell. That was important to him.

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Anyway,the complaining is getting old. This is our team,these are our coaches and I will root for them all every week. If the brass want to fire Siri for success,they certainly will do that and I have no say one way or the other. Meantime I will enjoy watching this team because they are now FUN to watch

Yeah…we play not to lose. I hate losing! But this is all absolutely brutally killing me. We will do just enough to keep bringing our unqualified HC back. 

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What coaching is needed that Hurts can grasp???

Any qualified we can get him

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Dude....you make the game sound like rocket science....OMG you are giving Q and Dejean too much too handle...it's going to take years...etc. 

Hurts is a 5th year guy.... they run he offense since May... it's not 1000 plays.  The reads should be picked up.. it's his basic football instincts and fundamentals.  He doesn't see the field. 

This is every coordinator he has had.  These are the plays he is comfortable with and that's what they run.  It's simple

This obsession with Hurts has really screwed up your view of the game.

Fangio has been coaching how many years pro ball? The putting too much on a rookie’s plate thought he stated himself. It’s called ‘common knowledge.’ Don’t shortcut these young players for team needs so much. Get them very sound fundamentally detailed to begin their pro careers. Build from there. Screw the Jack-of-all-trades crap …especially from the start of a players career. Don’t need fantastic gifted player being short changed at becoming a HoF player at his position because you prefer him just being capable at multiple jobs. Or let’s just stick with both rookie CBs at least being DROY worthy. Heck yeah I’m exactly right about our two rookie CBs! Fangio agreed. How are the results looking to everybody else? Score 1 for Ham..minus 1 for No Mas. What’s next?

No Mas you aren’t just belittling my opinions …you’re doing it to the long time vet great NFL coaches. I’m sticking with these thoughts, thanks for your bad differing opinion you shared though.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Dude....you make the game sound like rocket science....OMG you are giving Q and Dejean too much too handle...it's going to take years...etc. 

Hurts is a 5th year guy.... they run he offense since May... it's not 1000 plays.  The reads should be picked up.. it's his basic football instincts and fundamentals.  He doesn't see the field. 

This is every coordinator he has had.  These are the plays he is comfortable with and that's what they run.  It's simple

This obsession with Hurts has really screwed up your view of the game.

Hurts being shortcutted being coached has been a Siri decision all along. This is a Siri flaw more than a Hurts one. Slow down and get our franchise QB straight. These decisions are just snow balling from Siri’s decisions from year one. Of course it will just keep holding things back…stupid approach. But hey…we won week one in 2021….much more important than our franchise QBs entire career.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

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Heck yeah! Feels like the opinion of just sticking to having Q be a bada22 lockdown CB was a good one. Much better than him attempting learning a bunch of jobs half a22.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Q-great snag by Ham   DeJean-great snag by 123   my guy(ASmith) has been a dud so far

Hey man..don’t beat yourself up. We all have good and bad takes. It is nice when you go way out on a limb with a very less likely quality choice and it pays off. But I’m here to back you up on plenty of quality draft prep leading to you being very knowledgeable about your draft choices.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The KISS offense works

It’s the don’t lose approach. Don’t dare quest for greatness. But I do like lowering injury risks.

"Physicality, we can talk about it as much as we want as coaches. And we talk about it a lot, and we highlight it a lot. We practice it a lot. It comes down to those guys going out there and being physical. And to be physical, you have to have physical guys.

Football at any level is a physical game. Don’t overthink that part.

So that starts in the draft process, picking up guys in free agency. Howie and I talk a lot about that, being tough as a team, mental toughness, physical toughness, relentless effort. It starts by getting the right guys in here, so I can't say enough about our guys.

We specifically target these players. To not implement that on the field…would just be stupid. Go with the plan you have all along.

No Mas dubbed AR The Bronze Standard. Wanted to replace him with his champion Chipper Kelly and his revolutionary O genius. Wanted to keep Wentz over turning things over to Hurts. Has championed Siri as a top decision maker and HC. Stated repeatedly how he doesn’t believe in paying a RB. Wanted to start Q and DeJean’s careers moving them all around kind of learning multiple positions instead of working on perfecting one. 
   I was the exact opposite opinion on every one of these. That’s the track record. It’s much more extensive than just this short version.

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4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems like Hurts was totally making major moves leading the new O to me. Siri can’t teach..which is really just another word for coach. But he just gives up even attempting if it isn’t instant. Just like your thinking. 

How many picks need to be thrown before you give it up??? 30,40?

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4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Or how about just a bunch of stuff that should have been occurring the whole time

See this is what you do,what SPECIFICALLY "should have been done". Just making generalities is continues BS. List WHAT "bunch of stuff"

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