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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He was stuck under Siri. Pay attention here. You want the QB to do all the coaching responsibilities now also. How about we just pay a HC to ..ughh…be the coach? 
Those juggernaut Cards and Giants you claim were si much better than the SB champion Chiefs? Bills were subpar? 
  Geez it’s just boggling to think you believe The Collapse was just scheduling. I mean..it kind of was scheduling…later in the year Siri doesn’t make decisions trying to grow, develop and add….he doesn’t do it during a single season…definitely has no problem ignoring doing his job for the long term years in advance benefits.

Oh changing out the OC and DC had no effect that late in the season?

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1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The Collapse was just scheduling.

🤣 Yeah we had to play good teams, and no Bark , we had your superman Sanders, but I'm not going around in circles again with you on this

You know the saying: 

Give the man a fish….he can eat.

Teach a man to fish and he’ll never starve.

 

 

Siri’s one step at a time thinking never gets to the second part of this saying. But you are so happy you ate that fish. You can’t even understand any benefits of learning to fish.

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10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I want us to be so much moore this season.

What is "more"? We are 10-2 and we could very well be in the SB,how much "more" is there?

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You know the saying: 

Give the man a fish….he can eat.

Teach a man to fish and he’ll never starve.

 

 

Siri’s one step at a time thinking never gets to the second part of this saying. But you are so happy you ate that fish. You can’t even understand any benefits of learning to fish.

Poor analogy. Howie gave Hurts all the fish he needs to live however long his mediocre career lasts. He is a middle of the road QB. As long as he doesn't turn the ball over we are fine

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We played sub par teams until the end of the year. Where was your "leader" during the collapse? You know your boy that puts the team on his back? He pulled a Houdini

The Houdini was Steichen. Siri tried to keep things rolling. But it always was going to come out that we no longer had Steichen…it was Siri. We just headed to a point we had to rely only on Siri. We did pull out that tough fought win versus the Giants and their off the street pizza boy QB. How did you not witness how we weren’t a playoff caliber team at the end? Had the record enough. We were a top ten draft pick level team.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The Houdini was Steichen. Siri tried to keep things rolling. But it always was going to come out that we no longer had Steichen…it was Siri. We just headed to a point we had to rely only on Siri. We did pull out that tough fought win versus the Giants and their off the street pizza boy QB. How did you not witness how we weren’t a playoff caliber team at the end? Had the record enough. We were a top ten draft pick level team.

I though Hurts was god? A good QB could have at least won 1 game even if I was coaching

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BTW I didn't think we were playoff caliber then,but it was a TOTAL collapse

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This year I called for 12 wins,you called me misinformed,yet we may surpass that even,barring of course, another total collapse

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

When we tried that Hurts led the league in picks. We could not afford to keep trying it,so we stopped and reverted back to KISS that Hurts could comprehend

You expected Moore’s new very different O  scheme to be mastered and perfected by week one?!Exactly the problem going on with so many levels. Siri every time chooses to not develop and grow. But some how you expect our QB to do all that…..which Siri is deciding to not strive for. Week one…whatever you’ve got then? That’s Siri’s Ceiling. Heaven forbid he actually has to coach any players on football. 

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6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You expected Moore’s new very different O  scheme to be mastered and perfected by week one?!Exactly the problem going on with so many levels. Siri every time chooses to not develop and grow. But some how you expect our QB to do all that…..which Siri is deciding to not strive for. Week one…whatever you’ve got then? That’s Siri’s Ceiling. Heaven forbid he actually has to coach any players on football. 

Siri wasn't going to lose his job over Hurts FAILURE to GRASP the concept. The change came 1/2 way trough the browns game and most people saw it plainly. Why should Siri give up his job because his QB is a mental midget?

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2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Siri wasn't going to lose his job over Hurts FAILURE to GRASP the concept. The change came 1/2 way trough the browns game and most people saw it plainly. Why should Siri give up his job because his QB is a mental midget?

So it's better to lose games while Hurts keeps tossing picks because that's progress for you?

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OH the fans would go insane doing that,but you know it all(in your own mind) If it ain't broke DON'T fix it. Pretty simple concept. Keep bringing players in to improve. You bish that Hurts doesn't have continuity in coaching yet you want to change it again???

Yeah he has continuity in having a HC that shortcuts neglecting our franchise QB. It’s broken…you just don’t know it. So broken the effects just keep coming. I just can’t see how Siri is good. If I was Rosie I wouldn’t have allowed him to do it in the first place. Felt like Rosie wasn’t believing in Hurts year one of Siri. So they didn’t realize these decisions were neglecting the franchises QB. Not for just 2021….screwing us every season to 2030 ..maybe longer. 

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah he has continuity in having a HC that shortcuts neglecting our franchise QB. It’s broken…you just don’t know it. So broken the effects just keep coming. I just can’t see how Siri is good. If I was Rosie I wouldn’t have allowed him to do it in the first place. Felt like Rosie wasn’t believing in Hurts year one of Siri. So they didn’t realize these decisions were neglecting the franchises QB. Not for just 2021….screwing us every season to 2030 ..maybe longer. 

Welp no one cares what you would have done,what we SHOULD have done or who we should have hired- NO ONE CARES!!! This is our team,these are our coaches and we are on track to maybe make another SB and all you do is complain about what SHOULD have been

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Siri wasn't going to lose his job over Hurts FAILURE to GRASP the concept. The change came 1/2 way trough the browns game and most people saw it plainly. Why should Siri give up his job because his QB is a mental midget?

Forget Siri.... the team deserves to put out its best , not sacrifice for one player.   That's not what this game is about. 

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5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah he has continuity in having a HC that shortcuts neglecting our franchise QB. It’s broken…you just don’t know it. So broken the effects just keep coming. I just can’t see how Siri is good. If I was Rosie I wouldn’t have allowed him to do it in the first place. Felt like Rosie wasn’t believing in Hurts year one of Siri. So they didn’t realize these decisions were neglecting the franchises QB. Not for just 2021….screwing us every season to 2030 ..maybe longer. 

What an idiot,Howie surrounded Hurts with every weapon he could bring in here. ANY QB would the THRILLED to have what Hurts has. How is that negligent???? Did Siri put those guys together to win games(yes/no)

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah he has continuity in having a HC that shortcuts neglecting our franchise QB. It’s broken…you just don’t know it. So broken the effects just keep coming. I just can’t see how Siri is good. If I was Rosie I wouldn’t have allowed him to do it in the first place. Felt like Rosie wasn’t believing in Hurts year one of Siri. So they didn’t realize these decisions were neglecting the franchises QB. Not for just 2021….screwing us every season to 2030 ..maybe longer. 

No shot Hurts is here in 2030. Boy this guy has you all screwed up in the head.  

It's about the team...not one player.

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Forget Siri.... the team deserves to put out its best , not sacrifice for one player.   That's not what this game is about. 

I know,Siri saw Hurts wasn't going to learn the Moore system,so we went back to KISS with some added motion and a few other Moore Tweaks. Ham thinks Hurts will magically learn the system(he failed to learn) if Moore is the HC with the same system he can't grasp lol 

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You expected Moore’s new very different O  scheme to be mastered and perfected by week one?!Exactly the problem going on with so many levels. Siri every time chooses to not develop and grow. But some how you expect our QB to do all that…..which Siri is deciding to not strive for. Week one…whatever you’ve got then? That’s Siri’s Ceiling. Heaven forbid he actually has to coach any players on football. 

Why is it only Hurts that struggles?  

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Doesn't matter if Moore is the OC or the HC,Hurts CAN'T learn the system

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After league leading picks,it was evident to Siri that his QB was far more limited(mentally) than he thought. So this compromise works fine leave it ALONE

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I know,Siri saw Hurts wasn't going to learn the Moore system,so we went back to KISS with some added motion and a few other Moore Tweaks. Ham thinks Hurts will magically learn the system(he failed to learn) if Moore is the HC with the same system he can't grasp lol 

I thought it was the OL that demanded the change?

Thr other story is Hurts and Siri spent a lot of time together during the bye week making changes 

So the original narrative was it finally took that long to do the right thing.   Now that same thing is hurting the QB?

Hunh?

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