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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He can't use pro O because he has a college QB

He’d have to move out of the way for a coach who has a pro O to come in

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5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The situation is we have never had a losing season under Siri

Hurts does have an incredible W/L record….cant deny that 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The situation is there is no way Hurts is or can be the greatest QB in franchise history because he lacks the basic QB skills of reading the defense and making some necessary off timing throws.

He can win at the highest rate due to his supporting cast,  particularly at WR where no other Eagles QB has come close to having the two we have now locked in for any extended period of time. 

And he can win by doing what he does best, protect the ball and run. 

Any way he can overcome his pathetic HC situation

56 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

 But we just have these horrible terrible absolute worst O minds lol 

Can you even refer to Siri as an O mind?

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

But worried for today that we are going to try and force the passing game against the Steelers hope I’m wrong but we shall see.

I do hope we figure some things out with our passing game today just don’t want us to go all pass happy stay with our strength the ground game 

Frankly at this point we do need to force the passing game….to catch up

I’m ready to suffer any number of bumps in the road to grow and get where this team needs to be

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The situation is there is no way Hurts is or can be the greatest QB in franchise history because he lacks the basic QB skills of reading the defense and making some necessary off timing throws.

He can win at the highest rate due to his supporting cast,  particularly at WR where no other Eagles QB has come close to having the two we have now locked in for any extended period of time. 

And he can win by doing what he does best, protect the ball and run. 

His supporting cast in 2021 just carried him to overcome Siri to lead our franchise changing winning streak to make the playoffs. Siri wouldn’t have lasted half a season without everybody bailing him out..:especially including Hurts.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The situation is we have never had a losing season under Siri

They kept him in a job

On his own merit….Siri never becomes a HC. Obvious truth…for those open to such.

54 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts does have an incredible W/L record….cant deny that 

He wins playing his style. ..he loses playing the style you want.  You knew this when he first started ... back when you were humble in just saying he could be a starting QB.   

Then at some point you got a little arrogant and unrealistic about what he is.   Trust your first assessment.   

56 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Any way he can overcome his pathetic HC situation

Best win percentage in franchise history 

56 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Can you even refer to Siri as an O mind?

I refer Siri as a head coach.  You are the one obsessed about " O mind"  not anyone else.  

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Frankly at this point we do need to force the passing game….to catch up

At this point is when the bad weather hits....the run game is more important 

34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m ready to suffer any number of bumps in the road to grow and get where this team needs to be

That was the first 4 games...when they passed too much.

Remember when you were calling for " an identity "  now that they established that for 9 weeks... you don't like it? 

Why...because it puts your boy exactly where he excels ,but you don't like the narrative now because nobody is kissing his ass like 2022.

You are the fan version of McNabb when TO took away his shine... as Barkley is doing that with Hurts.

You are exactly what's wrong with today's team sports....you put the individual ahead of the team.  

37 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

His supporting cast in 2021 just carried him to overcome Siri to lead our franchise changing winning streak to make the playoffs. Siri wouldn’t have lasted half a season without everybody bailing him out..:especially including Hurts.

It's 2024.... get over it!

2024... these things don't matter

1. SF clearing cap in 2017

2. Howie signing Malik and Desean Jackson in 2019

3. And this is most important...  nothing that happened before the season.  

We are here now...only females don't let things go.  Move on to this team.  Lots to enjoy. 

Another way to say...I'm just an angry obsessed person... " back in 2021"   

Nobody cares about 2021.  

28 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He wins playing his style. ..he loses playing the style you want.  You knew this when he first started ... back when you were humble in just saying he could be a starting QB.   

Then at some point you got a little arrogant and unrealistic about what he is.   Trust your first assessment.   

My first assessment was this guy is our leader

29 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Best win percentage in franchise history 

2-5 started under Siri’s trainwreck. It wasn’t going to survive half a season as HC. Then Steichen and Hurts were unleashed and saved his neck.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2-5 started under Siri’s trainwreck. It wasn’t going to survive half a season as HC. Then Steichen and Hurts were unleashed and saved his neck.

You keep trying to use the Siri start as a knock against Siri but it’s the complete opposite a coaching knowing he needs to give up control and play calling is not a norm.

Majority of coaches would have went down with the ship in that same scenario. 

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43 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2-5 started under Siri’s trainwreck. It wasn’t going to survive half a season as HC. Then Steichen and Hurts were unleashed and saved his neck.

Take it on the road.You'd have a great comedy act in Downtown Philly

48 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You keep trying to use the Siri start as a knock against Siri but it’s the complete opposite a coaching knowing he needs to give up control and play calling is not a norm.

Majority of coaches would have went down with the ship in that same scenario. 

So you are crediting him with being forced to understand he sucks and to get out of the way. In fact all evidence points towards the more he is in the way the weaker the results. The more he gets out of the way is where our success stems from.

Just that obvious. Even nothing special pro OCs Steichen and Moore so clearly show such a massive difference from what Siri does with the exact same group.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Just that obvious. Even nothing special pro OCs Steichen and Moore so clearly show such a massive difference from what Siri does with the exact same group.

Imagine if we got what we deserved…should be demanded from us…a top coach.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

I refer Siri as a head coach.  You are the one obsessed about " O mind"  not anyone else.  

Because that’s the way of today’s NFL. Some special HC examples that aren’t O minds. But you aren’t getting a top O mind without making him HC.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

At this point is when the bad weather hits....the run game is more important 

No reason to even argue against the run fakes importance and reliability in football ever. But ignoring developing versatility is going to bite us when we need it. You’ll be the first one to attack Hurts over the results when it happens…we all already realize this.

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