1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Our Oline is absolutely elite…run blocking. Dominant!

And pass blocking too... dominant compared to the other 32 teams. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why don’t you try not oversimplifying and explain to me what all reading a D entails?

Very simple... on a pass play... you can read presnap blitz and coverage.  Post snap...you see the field and see which guy is open.

Hurts is below average in these areas... buy when the Eagles simplify the reads... by using RPO and other things, he does well.  

That's why regardless of coordinator,  we see him excel at the same things and struggle at the same things. This is who he is.

We can work with that if he protects the ball.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can't claim the Kansas City Chiefs have had kicker problems this season, because anyone they put on the field has found success in crunch time. The Chiefs have had three different kickers make a game-winning field goal as time expired in the fourth quarter this season. No other team in NFLhistory has had more than ONE kicker do so in a single season. While the Chiefs have used three different kickers in 13 games

Some how you will spin it that it's Andy Reid that has made these kickers successful 

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You need years to perfect a guy going in motion?  

The Eagles NEVER did motion prior to this year? 

Gimme a break here!  

Takes years to perfect any new O for sure. You not just need the repetitions but to adapt it to make it work best specifically for our team and situation. 

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

SF is a dumpster fire!   Delusional fanbase... they shot their load, missed their window.   Downhill from here, except limited cap space and picks.  

GM couldn't get the QB position right....Coach who just doesn't have control of the emotions of the players.  

Dumpster fire.

Bad move for them paying Aiyuck. They should have gone the opposite way of opening up some money instead. Then heck…working on moving on from Deebo here before too long also.

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Demanding... lol

Trying to open Siri’s eyes…is that better?

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Like away at the Rams and Baltimore 

Rams weren’t the team they are today. But yeah…Ravens game isn’t the best opportunity to suffer figuring out detailing these new concepts.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Takes years to perfect any new O for sure. You not just need the repetitions but to adapt it to make it work best specifically for our team and situation. 

So again, the years it took Peyton Manning in Denver?   Randall in Minnesota?  Brady when he switched all those OCs  Wentz when he started here.   Wilson in Seattle?

Takes years to learn in Moore's O what to do when the D reacts to motion, so much different than the previous offense????   

 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rams weren’t the team they are today. But yeah…Ravens game isn’t the best opportunity to suffer figuring out detailing these new concepts.

Rams were pretty hot going into our game right???   Or do we just look to spin everything for the agenda of the moment? 

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And pass blocking too... dominant compared to the other 32 teams. 

Nahh….they've had quality moments plenty. But huge difference in the run and pass blocking effectiveness. Our Oline needs that advantage given by physically attacking our opponentwith the run blocks to slow down the pass rush. Heck the physical approach has really been paying off in the second half. Saquan is the number two rushing RB if you just count his second half stats only.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Trying to open Siri’s eyes…is that better?

So running the ball is good or bad?   I don't get your point?   

One spin, finally Siri's realized we had to run the ball.... agenda = dumb coach

the next spin is Siri wants to run the ball too much and stunting the growth  ... agenda = dumb coach

Seems like this is the agenda

It's sunny out today ... = dumb coach 

It's raining today = dumb coach

 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nahh….they've had quality moments plenty. But huge difference in the run and pass blocking effectiveness. Our Oline needs that advantage given by physically attacking our opponentwith the run blocks to slow down the pass rush. Heck the physical approach has really been paying off in the second half. Saquan is the number two rushing RB if you just count his second half stats only.

OK, name me better pass blocking teams?   Not a difficult thing to do... 32 teams, how many do the experts say are better at pass blocking?    

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Very simple... on a pass play... you can read presnap blitz and coverage.  Post snap...you see the field and see which guy is open.

Hurts is below average in these areas... buy when the Eagles simplify the reads... by using RPO and other things, he does well.  

That's why regardless of coordinator,  we see him excel at the same things and struggle at the same things. This is who he is.

We can work with that if he protects the ball.

Well with Siri not having a rhyme and reason …called a scheme…where to go with the ball wasn’t so cut and dry. That’s why I’ve placed so much hope in Moore. It’s just not that simple like you’re trying to make it. Understanding the O …is what gives the keys to the QB to anticipate. 

Just now, joemas6 said:

OK, name me better pass blocking teams?   Not a difficult thing to do... 32 teams, how many do the experts say are better at pass blocking?    

a half a second more time for Hurts... than ANY other QB in the league last week... AJ open... still deer in the headlights.

Finally even Seth Joyner criticized Hurts this week... that was tough for the brutha to do, but he be doing it!   

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Some how you will spin it that it's Andy Reid that has made these kickers successful 

I mean…they are just rolling with knowing how to win. Doinking a game winning field goal through the uprights….is just the season they are having. Mahomes hasn’t looked that great the last two regular seasons. AR has so clearly been trying to develop him. Surprisingly having a tougher go at it than I would have expected. Seemed like he got through to him in winning that SB against us. But he seemed to just forget that and regress. But doubt you’ve seen this…with Mahomes.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Well with Siri not having a rhyme and reason …called a scheme…where to go with the ball wasn’t so cut and dry. That’s why I’ve placed so much hope in Moore. It’s just not that simple like you’re trying to make it. Understanding the O …is what gives the keys to the QB to anticipate. 

Again, its not just now.... this is Hurts career.   He is what he is... the sooner you realize it... the better.   At least you called this early on in his career.   No Mas he just wins.  No Mas, there are so many intangibles you don't consider.   No Mas, there is more than seeing the field and throwing the ball.    

But now... it's not good enough for you?   This is MVP 2022 Hurts we are seeing... look at the numbers... the rating, the combined TDs... the lack of turnovers.  Same stuff.  Enjoy it, you called it!

27 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You need years to perfect a guy going in motion?  

The Eagles NEVER did motion prior to this year? 

Gimme a break here!  

Under Siri there was such a wide gap between the rest of pro football and Siri’s O.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I mean…they are just rolling with knowing how to win. Doinking a game winning field goal through the uprights….is just the season they are having. Mahomes hasn’t looked that great the last two regular seasons. AR has so clearly been trying to develop him. Surprisingly having a tougher go at it than I would have expected. Seemed like he got through to him in winning that SB against us. But he seemed to just forget that and regress. But doubt you’ve seen this…with Mahomes.

Mahomes keeps making plays off script at the end of games.... really makes his coach look good

But what you aren’t getting is it isn’t just about motion….its about how everything fits together and applies to be executed at a high level.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Under Siri there was such a wide gap between the rest of pro football and Siri’s O.

What was the gap, lets discuss.    Lets say 60 plays a game per offense.    what was the percentage of motion then, vs now.... and then we can see the difference in 60 plays.

very simple.  

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But what you aren’t getting is it isn’t just about motion….its about how everything fits together and applies to be executed at a high level.

I'm not getting it, because you can't explain in specifics what is so different with Moore's O

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So again, the years it took Peyton Manning in Denver?   Randall in Minnesota?  Brady when he switched all those OCs  Wentz when he started here.   Wilson in Seattle?

Takes years to learn in Moore's O what to do when the D reacts to motion, so much different than the previous offense????   

 

But yeah…Moore’s O is as different as it gets pretty much. Heck we hired Desai last season just so we could have the most similar scheme until Fangio.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Rams were pretty hot going into our game right???   Or do we just look to spin everything for the agenda of the moment? 

Rams were ready to sell at the trade deadline and come on since. Beating the Rams was a good win. They are better today though for sure.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Under Siri there was such a wide gap between the rest of pro football and Siri’s O.

sure... lets say he ran motions only 6 times per game.... thats 3 years about 55 games... 330 times Hurts could have seen the defense react to motion.   How many times does he need to see it to learn to make reads? 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But yeah…Moore’s O is as different as it gets pretty much. Heck we hired Desai last season just so we could have the most similar scheme until Fangio.

IDK.. you never describe Moore's O... where can I find this explanation either from you or one the lnternet somewhere?   I'm sure football experts have written about his O?