4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Not at all.  A couple of plays back with Wentz.... nothing reliable.  Sanders better chance of a big play if a hole is there.   Gainwell better at everything else.  

I get that you think " this guy is coach's favorite "  but come on, this is the NFL ..surely you can see why the players would prefer Gainwell out there on a key play over Sanders.  Just more assignment reliable!

Gainwell can’t make the big play like Sanders did. Clearly a big deal. But Gainwell being the supposed receiving back was a hoax also. He hasn’t come close to Sanders rookie receiving numbers either. But….Sanders was a moron. So fully get that. 

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But Sanders was always gone. I never had thought otherwise. I don’t believe Gainwell sniffs what Sanders did. I do mean DiD…don’t see any future for him. 

I agree Gainwell won't get that dumb contract...but he will move on and play somewhere else in a bigger role than he has had here ... probably make 2 to 4 mil per year somewhere. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Gainwell can’t make the big play like Sanders did. Clearly a big deal. But Gainwell being the supposed receiving back was a hoax also. He hasn’t come close to Sanders rookie receiving numbers either. But….Sanders was a moron. So fully get that. 

I agree. .that is the one thing Sanders can do...better than Gainwell. But I don’t think that is what coaches look for.  They want the reliable back.

That isn't Sanders 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But you can't obsess... " guys that can take it to the house "  ...it's not flag football.  You need assignments completed.   More to playing RB than just taking it to the house.   The little things Gainwell was always more reliable.  Even as a rookie.

Sanders was a moron. Yes. Gainwell been far from perfect performing the assignments though. So not the windfall in Gainwell’s favor. But Gainwell has been improving. Thought he stepped up to earn the backup job this season. Not to be taken lightly when you consider it was our best RB competition we’ve had in years. We had three guys not make the 53 that can play ball. 

Sanders... 16 carries 80 yards... 5 yards a carry...that was typical for Sanders. One run for 45 yards...then 15 carries for 35 yards.  

Not what coaches look for. 

The whole RB that drove me nuts situation was rostering Sermon. What a waste of a roster spot. On a champion team……that one I definitely harped on.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Sanders... 16 carries 80 yards... 5 yards a carry...that was typical for Sanders. One run for 45 yards...then 15 carries for 35 yards.  

Not what coaches look for. 

How many RBs are morons? Hate to say…probably the majority. Not all McCaffrey

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sanders was a moron. Yes. Gainwell been far from perfect performing the assignments though. So not the windfall in Gainwell’s favor. But Gainwell has been improving. Thought he stepped up to earn the backup job this season. Not to be taken lightly when you consider it was our best RB competition we’ve had in years. We had three guys not make the 53 that can play ball. 

Gainwell was not perfect....but the conversation was compared to Sanders.   Reliable...Gainwell way more than Sanders.  Injury , ball security,  protection of QB... getting a tougher yard....all Gainwell.   Running for a long run....that is Sanders. 

You are big with the offseason and the weight room.  No contest between the two.  And just the simple idea that Gainwell is more of a fox hole guy than Sanders...that is important too.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How many RBs are morons? Hate to say…probably the majority. Not all McCaffrey

Not all Sanders either

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How many RBs are morons? Hate to say…probably the majority. Not all McCaffrey

McCaffrey was only like a 21 out of 50 on the Wonderlic. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

McCaffrey was only like a 21 out of 50 on the Wonderlic. 

Mixon a 12

Fournette and Cook 11

Less than 10 is considered illiterate 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

McCaffrey was only like a 21 out of 50 on the Wonderlic. 

You remember the movie " The Program "...  Alvin didn't know squat about anything....but he knew his assignments in the defense....  kill the qb...kill the RB...kill everyone...lol

I'm not looking for a rocket scientist...just a player that's reliable in their assignment. 

I don’t really believe much in that Wonderlic…but don’t really know much about it either.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t really believe much in that Wonderlic…but don’t really know much about it either.

I think the eye test with a player... and then the things we don't see in the interviews behind the scenes.  

You have pay check players...and players who really have a passion and want to get better.  Looks like we have been getting the guys who love football lately. 

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t really believe much in that Wonderlic…but don’t really know much about it either.

And if I had to think pay check player...or someone with a passion for the game wanting to get better...

Sanders is a paycheck player...

Gainwell is a guy who would scrape and work to get better. 

Yes targeted the hard working passion for football coachable players. Don’t think Davis and Carter fell into that categorization. The environment they're surrounded by here works. Can’t stress enough how huge it’s been for Carter. Think he could have gone any which way. But he really is showing he put in the work like a madman this whole season. Ready for it to payoff big time …right now.

If I need a guy to run the 4 ×100 relay...I pick Sanders..  if I need a guy to help win a football game,  I pick Gainwell. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

And if I had to think pay check player...or someone with a passion for the game wanting to get better...

Sanders is a paycheck player...

Gainwell is a guy who would scrape and work to get better. 

Sure. But where do you draw the lines? Where do you play a chess hard working geek over a super athlete?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes targeted the hard working passion for football coachable players. Don’t think Davis and Carter fell into that categorization. The environment they're surrounded by here works. Can’t stress enough how huge it’s been for Carter. Think he could have gone any which way. But he really is showing he put in the work like a madman this whole season. Ready for it to payoff big time …right now.

Idk... I think Carter is a student of the game... the rookie trying to intercept Mahomes spike... that's not a dude that isn't into football. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure. But where do you draw the lines? Where do you play a chess hard working geek over a super athlete?

Sanders is no super athlete and Gainwell is no geek.

I'm not obsessed with the flash player. I don't watch college and look simply for skills.   I like the player that's into the game...into the job.  You don't get to the league without physical ability...Gainwell is a good athlete. Probably better than Sanders except for just straight ahead speed. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

If I need a guy to run the 4 ×100 relay...I pick Sanders..  if I need a guy to help win a football game,  I pick Gainwell. 

Not that caught up on either. Gainwell’s messed up on his assignments. He hasn’t produced as a receiver. Just been limited. He’ll be replaced….not getting some starting gig anywhere. Sanders was a better athlete. In sports …it matters. Many sides to all of this stuff. Just gotta make the most of the roster chosen. Complete the puzzle best way.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure. But where do you draw the lines? Where do you play a chess hard working geek over a super athlete?

Theoretically..,don’t get caught in these two small example athletes. Everywhere …always.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not that caught up on either. Gainwell’s messed up on his assignments. He hasn’t produced as a receiver. Just been limited. He’ll be replaced….not getting some starting gig anywhere. Sanders was a better athlete. In sports …it matters. Many sides to all of this stuff. Just gotta make the most of the roster chosen. Complete the puzzle best way.

Nah....Sanders can run faster...there is more to being an athlete than that