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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Does Siri only have influence when you perceive it as a negative....when it's something positive you feel he has nothing to do with it?

You must understand...this is exactly how you come off with your words.

Except I make clear points of giving Siri full credit for developing The Brotherly Shove. I understand it comes off like much of the negative is Siri holding us back…because that’s what I’ve thought in many areas.

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You haven’t heard me complain about Siri’s interference and bad decisions before? 

 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Except I make clear points of giving Siri full credit for developing The Brotherly Shove. I understand it comes off like much of the negative is Siri holding us back…because that’s what I’ve thought in many areas.

Wow....4 years all he did was a QB sneak.

Right now I’ve been considering much more about how I like Trot most likely over Burks at LB in many situations. I don’t think about Sanders anymore. Won’t think about Gainwell very long after he’s gone. 

Just now, joemas6 said:

 

Wow....4 years all he did was a QB sneak.

I never said only….im not feeling like going all through every single thing with the paragraphs and paragraphs so i can be that specific. Just gave you the easy low hanging fruit I’ve credited Siri with on the positive. I’m not all everything’s great or terrible. Not how I think. Things are most always some of everything. Good/ bad/ grey.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Except I make clear points of giving Siri full credit for developing The Brotherly Shove. I understand it comes off like much of the negative is Siri holding us back…because that’s what I’ve thought in many areas.

It was the OL that demanded the Eagles run the ball though.... 

This is when the entire fanbase wanted us to run the ball

So Siri gets no credit because " it was a demand" from the OL....meaning Siri wanted to pass

Then... when it's a negative spin because they pass less and Hurts doesn't " develop " or " grow"

Then it was Siri's fault they run so much. 

That's how it comes off when you post here..   and just like you are 99% correct when you weren't the only one that didn't know about the " page # trolling " ...I guarantee I'm not the only one who thinks you come off thinking this with how you post on here about Siri. 

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So you anticipate Sanders will " start " more games post Eagles than Gainwell?  

I assume you believe Sanders will have more yardage as well?

Sanders was a starter. Gainwell could get the start…if the starter gets injured.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Right now I’ve been considering much more about how I like Trot most likely over Burks at LB in many situations. I don’t think about Sanders anymore. Won’t think about Gainwell very long after he’s gone. 

Agree...Gainwell was always going to be a 4 year Eagle...just like Sanders. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Agree...Gainwell was always going to be a 4 year Eagle...just like Sanders. 

Sanders being a starter…Gainwell being a backup

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Sanders was a starter. Gainwell could get the start…if the starter gets injured.

Again... my question is simple... post Eagles you think Sanders will end up starting and getting more yards than Gainwell.  Let's call it. 

You can stick to the 2022 starting...we both know that 2022 ended up with one real challenge of a game...the Superbowl.  We saw how the team trusted Gainwell over Sanders in that game.  Neither were great. Gainwell was a little less worse.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Again... my question is simple... post Eagles you think Sanders will end up starting and getting more yards than Gainwell.  Let's call it. 

You can stick to the 2022 starting...we both know that 2022 ended up with one real challenge of a game...the Superbowl.  We saw how the team trusted Gainwell over Sanders in that game.  Neither were great. Gainwell was a little less worse.

We went to an empty backfield

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sanders being a starter…Gainwell being a backup

Gainwell being the guy who played in more key snaps...to me more important than the first play of the game.

But we each have our preference...one of us obsessed with labels.  And one series vs New England 

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

It was the OL that demanded the Eagles run the ball though.... 

This is when the entire fanbase wanted us to run the ball

So Siri gets no credit because " it was a demand" from the OL....meaning Siri wanted to pass

Then... when it's a negative spin because they pass less and Hurts doesn't " develop " or " grow"

Then it was Siri's fault they run so much. 

That's how it comes off when you post here..   and just like you are 99% correct when you weren't the only one that didn't know about the " page # trolling " ...I guarantee I'm not the only one who thinks you come off thinking this with how you post on here about Siri. 

I think plenty enough like this about Siri as the situation. So I am sure it comes off plenty like that. Too much to try and unravel with how you clusterF my thoughts otherwise here though.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We went to an empty backfield

75 offensive snaps

38 for Gainwell... that's technically a majority...lol

26 for Sanders...but all good ...he started. 

I’ve been in the forefront of run the ball. Built to run the ball. Pay the RB to run the ball. Wear teams down by attacking and getting physical.

Just now, joemas6 said:

75 offensive snaps

38 for Gainwell... that's technically a majority...lol

26 for Sanders...but all good ...he started. 

Yeah…if we need to block…put in the better blocker. Is that your point? You prefer Stoll over Ertz? 

But Gainwell screwed up blocking in the SB too

Went to empty…don’t have a RB should be on the field. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think plenty enough like this about Siri as the situation. So I am sure it comes off plenty like that. Too much to try and unravel with how you clusterF my thoughts otherwise here though.

Not much to unravel though. 

If it's a bad thing...Siri had influence

If it's good...Siri got out of the way. 

But I'll give him credit for a QB sneak...just to throw a bone to the idiot that doesn't know Xs and Os but has the best coaching winning percentage in franchise history and a top all time in the league in 4 years.

But doesn't know Xs and Os ??? 

Ok

 

Sanders bumbled. Gainwell stunk. Sums up the RB SB picture for me.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve been in the forefront of run the ball. Built to run the ball. Pay the RB to run the ball. Wear teams down by attacking and getting physical.

Except that now it ruined the QB1 growth ? And hasn't let the " Moore offense" unfold?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Sanders bumbled. Gainwell stunk. Sums up the RB SB picture for me.

What sums up Sanders and Gainwell to me.   

3rd and long....Gainwell on the field 

3rd and short...Sanders on the sideline. 

2 minute drill.... Sanders not in

So you can have " starter " as in he plays the first play..  or even the most plays.   To me, when it's an important play, who is on the field for those is way more important. 

Just now, joemas6 said:

Not much to unravel though. 

If it's a bad thing...Siri had influence

If it's good...Siri got out of the way. 

 

 

I laid out in very specific details exactly the lengthy track record showing how the less Siri had a role the better the results. The heavier the hand of Siri lower moments of his tenure. 
 Like I said …very short version here. Not all encompassing.

   But that wasn’t all in your post. Tons to unravel in what you posted I responded to.

 But as far as Siri…team is learning how to deal with him more. He’s learning to do better.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Went to empty…don’t have a RB should be on the field. 

Right 38 snaps out of 75 with Gainwell....37 without

26 with Sanders.... 49 without.  

They trusted Gainwell more at money time than Sanders... I believe they put up over 30 points ?  

Wasn't like the offense struggled 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

What sums up Sanders and Gainwell to me.   

3rd and long....Gainwell on the field 

3rd and short...Sanders on the sideline. 

2 minute drill.... Sanders not in

So you can have " starter " as in he plays the first play..  or even the most plays.   To me, when it's an important play, who is on the field for those is way more important. 

Make a play: Sanders. 
Looking for a block: Gainwell

 but in the SB: having a RB on the field was a disadvantage for us. So very disgustingly disappointing 

Just now, joemas6 said:

Right 38 snaps out of 75 with Gainwell....37 without

26 with Sanders.... 49 without.  

They trusted Gainwell more at money time than Sanders... I believe they put up over 30 points ?  

Wasn't like the offense struggled 

RBs struggled…very badly. Our huge advantage …was a disadvantage

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