4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nope. Route tree was severely broken off. Do you not remember me constantly begging for some quicker routes to be called? Threw a Quick Slant to AJ midseason and it worked like a charm. Barely ever came back to it however. Once they actually called it…and it worked so well…you would have thought sometime they would have come back to it.

AJ is one of the best,hard for me to buy his routes were severely broken off 1 year to the next. Unless Aj stopped putting the effort in

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Go check how often Mahomes runs. 

60 times a season

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No idea how you try to apply this statement to 2023 season.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/hurts-total-tds-2023 23 TD's 15 picks and look at the sacks taken,that's solid performance passing??

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We ran the RPO(what do you think the O stands for?) The play has OPTIONS and he always chooses to HOG THE BALL

The Tush push was the reason he rushed for all the TDs.  Not RPO.

Your QB was NEVER progressing in reading defenses etc.   He had easy reads in 2022....they ran the ball and then it made his own running more of a threat...then he passed off of all that ...with one read stuff.   He never sat back and went through progressions like adult QB.  He didn't have to in 2022.

Just now, joemas6 said:

The Tush push was the reason he rushed for all the TDs.  Not RPO.

Your QB was NEVER progressing in reading defenses etc.   He had easy reads in 2022....they ran the ball and then it made his own running more of a threat...then he passed off of all that ...with one read stuff.   He never sat back and went through progressions like adult QB.  He didn't have to in 2022.

Other writers alos said he regressed,so call them wrong also. I'm not alone

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

The Tush push was the reason he rushed for all the TDs.  Not RPO.

Your QB was NEVER progressing in reading defenses etc.   He had easy reads in 2022....they ran the ball and then it made his own running more of a threat...then he passed off of all that ...with one read stuff.   He never sat back and went through progressions like adult QB.  He didn't have to in 2022.

And tush push first downs because Hurts could not get 10 yards in 3 downs

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

AJ is one of the best,hard for me to buy he routes were severely broken off 1 year to the next. Unless Aj stopped putting the effort in

The Play…playcall. The coach calls a play and the WR runs the corresponding route.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

60 times a season

Last option for Mahomes not the second option like Hurts

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The Play…playcall. The coach calls a play and the WR runs the corresponding route.

And then they wave their arms in the air because they beat their man and Hurts can't deliver

17 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts regressed from making strides as a QB to going back to  RB who can throw

 

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/hurts-total-tds-2023 23 TD's 15 picks and look at the sacks taken,that's solid performance passing??

 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The Play…playcall. The coach calls a play and the WR runs the corresponding route.

So somehow a wheel route differs from year to year? In 3 downs it's all play calling? Taking a sack in TB was the called play?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

And then they wave their arms in the air because they beat their man and Hurts can't deliver

Because the blitz has arrived. But they weren’t open. As good as Goedert, AJ and Smitty are…somehow they were covered a bunch at the end of the season slide. Hmmmmm….you still haven’t figured out it was because we were so predictable in our playcalls. McCaffrey came on during one of our games and straight called out what play we were about to run. The defenders didn’t have to cover any intermediate parts of the route tree.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So somehow a wheel route differs from year to year? In 3 downs it's all play calling? Taking a sack in TB was the called play?

Why did we need the tush push to get so many first downs? 3 downs was all bad play calling? And while I wasn't happy with them either alot of times,you have to execute sometime

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So somehow a wheel route differs from year to year? In 3 downs it's all play calling? Taking a sack in TB was the called play?

Every down it’s called Playcalling. Coach does it every play. Except the bad Hurts to AJ play against the Seachickens. They admitted to going off script and just going for that play.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Because the blitz has arrived. But they weren’t open. As good as Goedert, AJ and Smitty are…somehow they were covered a bunch at the end of the season slide. Hmmmmm….you still haven’t figured out it was because we were so predictable in our playcalls. McCaffrey came on during one of our games and straight called out what play we were about to run. The defenders didn’t have to cover any intermediate parts of the route tree.

Predictable is fine if you EXECUTE the play. We took 4 downs to do it. The tush push saved our bacon many times over

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Because the blitz has arrived. But they weren’t open. As good as Goedert, AJ and Smitty are…somehow they were covered a bunch at the end of the season slide. Hmmmmm….you still haven’t figured out it was because we were so predictable in our playcalls. McCaffrey came on during one of our games and straight called out what play we were about to run. The defenders didn’t have to cover any intermediate parts of the route tree.

RPO= run pass OPTION. Actually there are 2 plays on every play called RUN or pass OPTION. OPTION

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why did we need the tush push to get so many first downs? 3 downs was all bad play calling? And while I wasn't happy with them either alot of times,you have to execute sometime

The Brotherly Shove wasn’t just on fourth down.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

RPO= run pass OPTION. Actually there are 2 plays on every play called RUN or pass OPTION. OPTION

So one could say his decision making also regressed

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Predictable is fine if you EXECUTE the play. We took 4 downs to do it. The tush push saved our bacon many times over

Predictable is terrible and death to an O.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The Brotherly Shove wasn’t just on fourth down.

Right because we couldn't get 10 yards in 3 downs,very sad

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

RPO= run pass OPTION. Actually there are 2 plays on every play called RUN or pass OPTION. OPTION

There are actually more than that. He can handoff to the RB to run…or run it himself.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Predictable is terrible and death to an O.

I'm calling Travis Henry on a B gap. You know it's coming. SO??? If he executes you can't stop him. Refrigerator Perry from the 1. You know that's coming. The tush push was 1/2 our offense

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

There are actually more than that. He can handoff to the RB to run…or run it himself.

So, 3 options and he can't get that right

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Predictable is fine if you EXECUTE the play. We took 4 downs to do it. The tush push saved our bacon many times over

We just aren’t going to see eye to eye on anything apparently. Predictable playcalling is a massive failure by the playcaller. Just basic fundamentals of football here to me.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So, 3 options and he can't get that right

Usually it's 2, pass or Hurts runs,or RB hand off or Hurts runs depending on the play called. And hurts held the ball way too long many times. You can blame a bad play call,but that play the ball should be out of his hands before I can read War and Peace