15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Or WR Brian Thomas, TE Sinnott, DTKris Jenkins…and a Miami Hurricane S..whoever falls(Kamren Kinchens or James Williams)

Foolish to take a WR first for the slot. Those can be had later IMO. We need Hurts to see and  use, and the OC to scheme into using Goedert as he was intended to be used before worrying about TE2 

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Or WR Brian Thomas, TE Sinnott, DTKris Jenkins…and a Miami Hurricane S..whoever falls(Kamren Kinchens or James Williams)

So no RG???

Updated mock(if Howie will do it)   1-22-Cooper DeJean-CB- Iowa(only 1 TD allowed in his career at Iowa and he would also add to our ST return game for year 1)    2-50-Chris Braswell-Edge/LB- Bama    2-53- Cooper Beebe-IOL(RG)-Kansas State     4-120-Trevin Wallace-LB-KY    5-161-Beau Brade- S- Maryland   5-171-Krystian Boyd-DL- N. Iowa      5-172-  Tahj Washington-WR(slot)- USC     6-211- Brevan Spann-Ford-TE- Minnesota

Should be a nice slot for someone(hopefully us)

56 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So no RG???

Drafted Steen in the third last draft.

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nickel would be Huff, Carter,(pick a DT) and Smith…..Dean and White….Ringo Slay,Maddox…..Ceedy Duce and Blank

Why would that be the Nickel on the early down?  Why do you need 3 LBs ( Smith, White and Dean)   Nickel should have 2 LBs.   Replace Dean with Maddox. 

But let's use your group...why wouldn't you put in Sweat or Graham in this particular formation... if it were a running down?

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Drafted Steen in the third last draft.

He is going to be a decent backup being versatile.  

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Why would that be the Nickel on the early down?  Why do you need 3 LBs ( Smith, White and Dean)   Nickel should have 2 LBs.   Replace Dean with Maddox. 

But let's use your group...why wouldn't you put in Sweat or Graham in this particular formation... if it were a running down?

Your questions are the point I’d say…anything but Bryce and Nolan out there against the run together.

I’m likingDecameron Richardson Miss St CB good sized ran a 4.3 forty…SEC experienced. ( Ranked -186 on mock database)

 

 

This kid Caelan Carson can play some ball.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Drafted Steen in the third last draft.

And?

 

DTD is a legit versatile S prospect

 

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Your questions are the point I’d say…anything but Bryce and Nolan out there against the run together.

Unless it's with 3 big guys in between ...the 3-4 D that we are supposed to use on early downs. 

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Your questions are the point I’d say…anything but Bryce and Nolan out there against the run together.

In 2017... we drafted Barnett round 1.   And spent decent $ on Chris Long.

Run downs had Vinny Curry and Jernigan.   Then we used Long and Barnett on passing downs.

We currently have Graham and Sweat..  along with Smith and Huff.    One would use common sense logic that Sweat and Graham would get playing time during run downs... setting the edge...with Davis at NT.

Probably use Graham in a pass rushing role as a 4/3 DT as well. 

Point is we didn't use the free agent and #1 pick together to stop the run in 2017...why do you expect to use them together in a 4 man line now... to stop the run?

13 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He needs a QB that can locate him. That's Hurts issue he sees only 1 read not the other 3. Hurts was progressing in that area,then stalled and went backwards last year. Needs to go back to progressing not regressing seeing the receivers. Actually now it's 5 reads that need to be made as bark is a receiving weapon also

He needs to start progressing in the area of more than one read.  Hasn't started yet. Still the same since every year he has played.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

He needs to start progressing in the area of more than one read.  Hasn't started yet. Still the same since every year he has played.

He was starting to in '22 IMO,then went backwards last year. With this plethora of receivers,if Lurie wants another ring,this is on Hurts now,there are no more "It's on me,I need to do better" Time to stop saying it and actually get it done. Pickett would pick defenses apart,even McKee could light things up with this receiving corps. I'm sorry,but I don't think Lurie will tolerate another fail led by Hurts. Maybe we lose because of our defense(we shall see) but there is zero excuses not to (I hate this word) unleash the potential; this offense has,and I don't care who it's against. I'm pulling for Hurts(despite being called a hater),but he really needs to step up his game and stop playing like a rookie. Howie has provided Hurts as many resources as I can possibly fathom while Hurts has been here. There are no more excuses to be had on offense

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He was starting to in '22 IMO,then went backwards last year. With this plethora of receivers,if Lurie wants another ring,this is on Hurts now,there are no more "It's on me,I need to do better" Time to stop saying it and actually get it done. Pickett would pick defenses apart,even McKee could light things up with this receiving corps. I'm sorry,but I don't think Lurie will tolerate another fail led by Hurts. Maybe we lose because of our defense(we shall see) but there is zero excuses not to (I hate this word) unleash the potential; this offense has,and I don't care who it's against. I'm pulling for Hurts(despite being called a hater),but he really needs to step up his game and stop playing like a rookie. Howie has provided Hurts as many resources as I can possibly fathom while Hurts has been here. There are no more excuses to be had on offense

If Hurts fails this year I believe Hurts goes the way of Fields. Lurie has no more hair to pull out and no more tolerance for losing when it counts most. I still don't know what the collapse was about,but my god losing to lowly AZ was the bad icing on the stale cake and then making the playoffs despite that humiliation,we proceeded to get humiliated in Raymond James stadium. If it wasn't so sad,it would be comical,the way we lost that game. Now it's time to put up or shut up. New OC who is into the passing game and Hurts better crank that up pronto  

10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Unless it's with 3 big guys in between ...the 3-4 D that we are supposed to use on early downs. 

Still wouldn’t be good

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

He needs to start progressing in the area of more than one read.  Hasn't started yet. Still the same since every year he has played.

Ridiculous simpleton argument that’s completely false

32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He was starting to in '22 IMO,then went backwards last year. With this plethora of receivers,if Lurie wants another ring,this is on Hurts now,there are no more "It's on me,I need to do better" Time to stop saying it and actually get it done. Pickett would pick defenses apart,even McKee could light things up with this receiving corps. I'm sorry,but I don't think Lurie will tolerate another fail led by Hurts. Maybe we lose because of our defense(we shall see) but there is zero excuses not to (I hate this word) unleash the potential; this offense has,and I don't care who it's against. I'm pulling for Hurts(despite being called a hater),but he really needs to step up his game and stop playing like a rookie. Howie has provided Hurts as many resources as I can possibly fathom while Hurts has been here. There are no more excuses to be had on offense

Rosie hasn’t provided everything you could think of. Rosie has been in the way and a problem.

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Hurts fails this year I believe Hurts goes the way of Fields. Lurie has no more hair to pull out and no more tolerance for losing when it counts most. I still don't know what the collapse was about,but my god losing to lowly AZ was the bad icing on the stale cake and then making the playoffs despite that humiliation,we proceeded to get humiliated in Raymond James stadium. If it wasn't so sad,it would be comical,the way we lost that game. Now it's time to put up or shut up. New OC who is into the passing game and Hurts better crank that up pronto  

Same lame duck HC that has no power and lost the team. 

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He was starting to in '22 IMO,then went backwards last year. With this plethora of receivers,if Lurie wants another ring,this is on Hurts now,there are no more "It's on me,I need to do better" Time to stop saying it and actually get it done. Pickett would pick defenses apart,even McKee could light things up with this receiving corps. I'm sorry,but I don't think Lurie will tolerate another fail led by Hurts. Maybe we lose because of our defense(we shall see) but there is zero excuses not to (I hate this word) unleash the potential; this offense has,and I don't care who it's against. I'm pulling for Hurts(despite being called a hater),but he really needs to step up his game and stop playing like a rookie. Howie has provided Hurts as many resources as I can possibly fathom while Hurts has been here. There are no more excuses to be had on offense

 Nah... never started... first read was open, or he threw a jump ball...or he ran.   It just so happened all those 3 things were working.