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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie is the only real blocker from Fangio not already being here for last season. This was already prearranged. Knew Gannon was likely leaving and had Fangio ‘in house consulting’. All that needed to happen was Fangio moving into the huge office.

How did Howie prevent Fangio from being the DC last year?   You always say this but never confirm the time-line???  Why is that?

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Well...Arizona violated league policy bu contacting Gannon too late...if they did it on time, I absolutely believe Fangio would have been our DC.... but since it seemed Gannon was staying, he interviewed and accepted the job in Miami prior to everything happening with Gannon and Arizona. 

Been looking at our draft. HR may still be gun shy after Sydney to go secondary in the 1st, just feel he should buck going lines until the 2nd and take DeJean 1st. Guyton ( who I like) and Fautanu ( who Stoutland likes ) should both be there early 2nd, DeJean won't be. As for the G vs T thing, Fautanu projects to be a G from what I've been reading. Guyton is built like Lane, will take at least a yr, maybe 2 to be a starting RT and may not be as good at G until then. Know Lane said he wants to play a few more yrs, but he's 34. Lurie's said we build more towards the future. Feel with all of that Guyton is the better pick in the long run, even if that means sitting and filling in for a yr or 2. 

Fautanu has also played strictly left side so should be out of the picture, don't know why Stout's so enamored

24 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Fautanu has also played strictly left side so should be out of the picture, don't know why Stout's so enamored

Because it's not about college...it's about how they project in the pros.   They look for certain traits ...not where they played or what system I'm college.  

Think about it...the kid doesn't choose his particular system or the exact way he will be used in college.  Should we really put that much stock in the system their coach employs at ages 18-20?

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Fautanu has also played strictly left side so should be out of the picture, don't know why Stout's so enamored

He’s a really good looking player….believe he is main holdup is arm length and hand size….why most are calling him a G.

How many games did Dickerson play LG in his life before moving there as a rookie for the Eagles?   

11 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

With us likely extending Smith would we keep AJ Brown next season? We have an out in 2025?

he is only 26 so what 27-28 next year not sure when his birthday falls likely still a strong option for at least 2-3 years if not longer.

Also he had some added drama this last season and his target share could take a hit even more with Smith starting to come into his own 

Just curious what everyone thoughts are for him 

Keep the duo.  Barring anything weird happening. 

10 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Vic honestly feels like Howie/Lurie stepping in saying hey this is going to be your DC same with Moore. Honestly part of the reason I could see this whole thing crashing and burning this season 

I believe Moore was Siri for sure.  

Rumor of Marshawn Lattimore being on the trade block.

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11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He made amends for screwing up the D coaching with his Desai/Patricia fiasco he solely created by just getting Fangio

Lurie hires the coaches not Howie

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8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie is the one that fired the previous staff over his ego. Been manipulating it the whole time. He was the guy that fired and hired the whole way. He telegraphed that very obvious step last season of firing Desai for Patricia. We had Fangio in house ready to take over the D …but Rosie screwed it all over hurt feelings over his boy Gannon.

Lurie hires/fires the coaches not Howie

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10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Lurie hires/fires the coaches not Howie

If it's a good move it's Lurie...if it's bad, it's Howie. 

If the team / offense does something good, it's Hurts.     When bad things happen it's not his fault. 

Who drafted Hurts?   Best player in team history....in round 2?    This is the internal conflict...lol.

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

So the same information from a different writer was spun differently....saying Smith is patient as the Eagles wait for the market to set. 

Hilarious how people view the same information with a different spin.

Btw... getting the deal done this offseason or before the deadline in the fall....that will keep the cap hit low, doesn't matter the cash or if it's 25 million or more

Wouldn't it be better to set the market then let others follow? Smith shouldn't be paid more than Jefferson, so it's anyone's guess.

39 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Wouldn't it be better to set the market then let others follow? Smith shouldn't be paid more than Jefferson, so it's anyone's guess.

Can't set the market with the player who isn't that level. 

It's why we set the market with Dickerson...he is that level.   We set the market with McNabb, Wentz, Hurts....at those times when perception was the top of the market.   Smith isn't that level. 

It doesn't work for either the Eagles or Smith to do anything first.  Just the fans who worry about losing Smith so they want it done asap. 

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So the same information from a different writer was spun differently....saying Smith is patient as the Eagles wait for the market to set. 

Hilarious how people view the same information with a different spin.

Btw... getting the deal done this offseason or before the deadline in the fall....that will keep the cap hit low, doesn't matter the cash or if it's 25 million or more

A long factor is the May 2nddeadline for the fifth year option on him.

3 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Wouldn't it be better to set the market then let others follow? Smith shouldn't be paid more than Jefferson, so it's anyone's guess.

But if Jefferson signs for 33 mil that could equal 28 mil for DeVonta. It all affects each other in the market. I was thinking the 25 is a pretty obvious mark. Just comes down to the guaranteed money most likely.

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4 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Wouldn't it be better to set the market then let others follow? Smith shouldn't be paid more than Jefferson, so it's anyone's guess.

So he's not playing "hardball",he is patiently waiting,that's not close to the same thing,but those POS writers need headlines so they juice up whatever their pea brains can find

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https://www.nfl.com/prospects/adonai-mitchell/32004d49-5405-6120-269b-4e222571d8ba  like DeVonta, he was my pick for us,however if he wants to play hardball(which was a BS headline) , then I'll take this kid at 22 and let Smith walk(as much as I like him there is no need to overpay a WR)

Northern Iowa Dline prospect that wasn’t invited to the combine won’t accept Eagles attempt to have him visit.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

A long factor is the May 2nddeadline for the fifth year option on him.

Not really... the factor that is going to matter is. . Lamb and Jefferson drafted the year before... and Chase / Waddle drafted in front of him same year... both of those WRs will have a higher 5th year option as they were drafted earlier... same with Pitts.  

Ironically ...Parsons 5th year option is going to be slightly lower than Smith... even though his new deal will be much higher.  

Dallas will screw that up too as they won't get the deal done this year when they should.  They will justify a 5th year option lower than Smith and think it's a bargain even though it counts 100% vs the cap and then they will pat Parsons the big contract with zero leverage on cap hits.   Clockwork .

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