Not a good deal - it's a GREAT deal! Was in the car when I heard - have Sirius XM. What a relief! Dullass gonna need clean undees! Hold out CeeDee!

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Clearly AJ was the beneficiary of the best QB play he has experienced in his career.

Just imagine if AJ had Mahomes, Allen or Burrow

I'm really surprised we got this done so early, it's an honest contract on both sides. Other teams will have to pay up. Locking in a draft pick makes it even nicer - home grown!

I would've liked to have seen 4 yrs. Can't have everything - where would you put it - Steve Wright.

3 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

I would've liked to have seen 4 yrs. Can't have everything - where would you put it - Steve Wright.

Very greedy(hard to blame you though)…got The Slim Reaper for five more seasons under contract. That’s a huge win. Good for DeVonta to grab hold of all that guaranteed loot.

4 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Just imagine if AJ had Mahomes, Allen or Burrow

A list of three…no problems to list Hurts fourth. But clearly AJ has done nothing but thrive after taking his friends advice to holdout and force a trade to Philly. 
 Curious where you’d rank AJ as a WR amongst that same company? Is he better than Diggs? Can’t make much of any case he’s better that The Cheetah or Chase. AJ would have been a downgrade for those QBs.

Picture of Saquan beside QB1 practicing. Two very thick strong guys together back there now. Going to be very difficult for defenders.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah....agreed...you can tell the offense is different with AJ and without him.  Curious as to the QBs numbers and the teams score the games AJ missed?

Hmm.....say look at both Tampa playoff games and the last Giants game.   

But let's also look at AJ prior to being an Eagle....he did fairly well....maybe it was that elite QB he had in Tennessee?

Maybe Rich Gannon carried Jerry Rice and Brown for the Raiders that year too....lol

 

I see a bunch of terrible coaching g taking place in those games to look at. Why was AJ and Hurts out there getting injured that last game against the giants anyway? Just stupid. All the kings horses and all the kings men…weren’t going to bring home a win ….in either playoff matchup lost to TB.

Can’t believe I’m witnessing a coach lose a team so vividly and returning the next season like this.

4 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Not a good deal - it's a GREAT deal! Was in the car when I heard - have Sirius XM. What a relief! Dullass gonna need clean undees! Hold out CeeDee!

Jefferson reports are he wants to force the Vikes into a Watson type signing. All guaranteed contract. All the players have been trying to force and accomplish this for a long time. Jefferson really in a terrific position to make a real go at it. 

Think about something for a second. As strange as this is to ponder, Smith earned his extension before Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Ja'Marr Chase, Brandon Aiyuk, Jaylen Waddle, Tee Higgins, and Amon-Ra St. Brown earned theirs. Here's what that means. They have locked DeVonta in before the wide receiver market explodes.

52 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think about something for a second. As strange as this is to ponder, Smith earned his extension before Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Ja'Marr Chase, Brandon Aiyuk, Jaylen Waddle, Tee Higgins, and Amon-Ra St. Brown earned theirs. Here's what that means. They have locked DeVonta in before the wide receiver market explodes.

Props to Howie

49 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Props to Howie

Has to get you pondering what he’s thinking on the future plans

Does this signal a very likely parting with AJ? Will he draft a WR in the first two days of this draft? Heck even trade up to 16 to grab the last upper tier WR?

52 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

Props to Howie

Maybe he trades AJ to Allen in Buffalo to counter the costs of moving up and grabbing the replacement WR. Bills are in major need of a WR.

8 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The WR market is on the precipice of completely blowing up. So that fifth year option is actually a very great deal for The Slim Reaper. You(No Mas) can’t see this…because it’s heavy on the cap for 2025 instead of overly backloading things. In a rolling cap situation a good deal…is a good deal. Saves us money and was wise. No matter how hard it was for Rosie to choke down. 

I don't think you are understanding the contract yet... let's wait so I don't have to explain it to you.

But think for a second how your are supporting exactly why I said there was no " deadline of having to rush to extend Smith before May 2"...  because as you said...the $15.5 mil isn't a bad deal for the Eagles.  

I agree...so why would they need to do it before May 2 if they are getting a good deal with 5th year option?

No Mas....the 5th year option is good

No Mas... but they have to extend him before being forced to give him the 5th year option?

You don't see the contradiction?

They were never under any pressure to get it done before May 2.   The deadline in the fall where new money can No longer be used on the 2024 books is all that ever mattered.

 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I don't think you are understanding the contract yet... let's wait so I don't have to explain it to you.

But think for a second how your are supporting exactly why I said there was no " deadline of having to rush to extend Smith before May 2"...  because as you said...the $15.5 mil isn't a bad deal for the Eagles.  

I agree...so why would they need to do it before May 2 if they are getting a good deal with 5th year option?

You usually are adamantly against paying the fifth year options….because it involves guaranteed full single season cap hit. 

Just now, joemas6 said:

No Mas....the 5th year option is good

No Mas... but they have to extend him before being forced to give him the 5th year option?

You don't see the contradiction?

They were never under any pressure to get it done before May 2.   The deadline in the fall where new money can No longer be used on the 2024 books is all that ever mattered.

 

All leverages. Just like how I showed the media quote about beating Jefferson and others to the punch.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You usually are adamantly against paying the fifth year options….because it involves guaranteed full single season cap hit. 

Yes....when done....BY ITSELF.   Let's wait to get the details of the extension...so I don't have to keep explaining...and you argue just to argue per usual via the abstract... when the numbers come in and you can see the cap hits being lowered with the signing bonus...then we can talk.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Yes....when done....BY ITSELF.   Let's wait to get the details of the extension...so I don't have to keep explaining...and you argue just to argue per usual via the abstract... when the numbers come in and you can see the cap hits being lowered with the signing bonus...then we can talk.

I’m not arguing to argue. Nothing happened different than I previously was stating I expected to happen. Before Jefferson signs? Check. Before May 2nd? Check. 25 mil average annual? Check.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes....when done....BY ITSELF.   Let's wait to get the details of the extension...so I don't have to keep explaining...and you argue just to argue per usual via the abstract... when the numbers come in and you can see the cap hits being lowered with the signing bonus...then we can talk.

So then you agree…it needed to be done before May 2nd(done by itself).Settled then.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

All leverages. Just like how I showed the media quote about beating Jefferson and others to the punch.

Yes.... yes....leverage by doing the contract early...now you are getting it.  Team always owns the leverage when paying early. 

But the Eagles use that leverage without F@#$ing over the players.  They put money in Smiths pocket now....  the small minded person sees 3 years $75 million.   The reality is the deal will be restructures again ...EARLY... which will help the Eagles again... the leverage will be the guaranteed money running out... and the pay scale being raised ..Smith will want to get a new deal with higher $$ and more guarantees.    It's win win now.... and will be win win in 2027 again. 

Smith will always get paid early.... and the Eagles will stay ahead of the big cap hits.  

Do the deal early.... opposite of Dallas.  Who will exercise 5th year option on Parsons but won't extend him...then get F@$$Ed with cap hits later.   Just like they are about to do with Lamb and probably a second time with Dak.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m not arguing to argue. Nothing happened different than I previously was stating I expected to happen. Before Jefferson signs? Check. Before May 2nd? Check. 25 mil average annual? Check.

Why May 2....explain that?

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes....when done....BY ITSELF.   Let's wait to get the details of the extension...so I don't have to keep explaining...and you argue just to argue per usual via the abstract... when the numbers come in and you can see the cap hits being lowered with the signing bonus...then we can talk.

The signing bonus can’t be that big. This year on top of his cap number wouldn’t be as big if a deal. But a huge signing bonus number divided on top of next year’s guaranteed fifth year option? You’re getting into the twenties of millions on the cap then.