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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I know we aren't into mocks,but I really like this one. Even the young guys have upside and snagging the OC for OSU(national champs) you could do worse. Let him compete for the RG spot as well as a BU to Cam, Howie seems to prefer OC's made into OG's so that fits his personna. And as ham said bring in a vet S just to gel that part out

When you said the OC from Ohio St …my first thought was you were discussing Chip  Kelly…but I got what you’re saying now. Sheewww

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1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Wow ... why not make it 60?  

You definitely have a talent for the extreme and a vivid imagination.  I'll bet you have some great conspiracy theories. 

Well I was more correct between the Baun and Becton predictions between the two of us concerning salaries already once this offseason.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Well I was more correct between the Baun and Becton predictions between the two of us concerning salaries already once this offseason.

I was looking at collecting close to a 3,4,5,6 compensatory picks this offseason 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Cam would be center 

You go ahead and find me the franchise tag number for the C …that differs from being classified Oline. T/G/C all same tags.

29 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again, I don't look at what happened with Dickerson as any trend.  Howie loves to do this or that.   I think they liked Dickerson and drafted him.  That's it.  

The beauty of the last 4 years of drafting... it's all over the place.  No trends.  Different positions, trading up and down.  Big school and small school.  don't look so much for trend that makes it predictable ... look for players that you think we would want.  

This is a good change from years past where we could easily see trends weighing at positions etc.  

Drafted Dickerson…he could be a good C….actually I’d say IS our best C…if we got enough of a look at things. Had Seumalo could also play C. Been working Toth all along the lines…he’s capable of playing C now. We’ve had a few other players roll through that were capable looking C…hard to judge much behind Kelce.

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You go ahead and find me the franchise tag number for the C …that differs from being classified Oline. T/G/C all same tags.

Again, Cam isn't going to get the tag # for OL.   He is a C.   He is going to get C number.... not middle of the road 2025 C numbers.... he is going to get top 5 C numbers.    The Eagles don't need to tag him because he isn't going to get tag numbers on the open market.  As you said... which I agree,,, $18 mil is too high.   But 14 mil is a significant drop especially percentage wise from 18  mil.   He should get that # as an extension... you combine that with his $5.3 mil salary this year.. then it would even out to that $12.2 # ... which again... is 33$ lower than the $18 mil # you seem obsessed about.   That is what it will take to buy him... Becton was rented... rent is cheaper than buying.   Simple business...  

You don't want to buy Cam... because you need to save $2 mil .... but you would over pay Cater by $15 mil ... great business. 

Wonder how we’d look with Mailata, Green, Dickerson, Steen and Lane all working together under Stout? 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Wonder how we’d look with Mailata, Green, Dickerson, Steen and Lane all working together under Stout? 

I don’t think we’d look bad at all

Aren’t there like 5 G out there all making 21 mil(including Dickerson? Ynser your argument he should demand to play G this year and in the future so YOU will pay him 21 mil.

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Well I was more correct between the Baun and Becton predictions between the two of us concerning salaries already once this offseason.

and again... Baun and Becton did not get " buyer" contracts.... locking up contracts.... they were both short term.  Renters deals.   Same with CGJ Huff, Reddick...and Barkley originally.  

 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Aren’t there like 5 G out there all making 21 mil(including Dickerson? Ynser your argument he should demand to play G this year and in the future so YOU will pay him 21 mil.

Center    Center 

CAM IS A CENTER

wait... so we aren't confused

CAM is a Center

Cam just isn’t Dickerson…or Mailata…nowhere in the same realm with Lane..sorry.

I want to pay CAM as a Center

Because I know how it would look with him...   it looks like a parade!    

That's the look I prefer

 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Aren’t there like 5 G out there all making 21 mil(including Dickerson? Ynser your argument he should demand to play G this year and in the future so YOU will pay him 21 mil.

If I’m Cam’s Agent I’m fully representing him as a G if I’m negotitating with you holding the checkbook

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Cam just isn’t Dickerson…or Mailata…nowhere in the same realm with Lane..sorry.

Correct.... he is the C ... which would get paid about 2/3 of those guys... except it's even waiting another year because he is already under contract this year.   

Did I mention Cam is a center and I want to pay him as a center?

And 10 mil is legit money for an above average C….not paying him 21…18…over 14. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

If I’m Cam’s Agent I’m fully representing him as a G if I’m negotitating with you holding the checkbook

Cam is a center... 

Again... Cam is a center

but just to be clear.... Cam is a center... the pro bowl center.  

With my Iverson voice.... " Not a guard.... not a tackle.... but we talkin bout center"  WE talkin bout center

 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

If I’m Cam’s Agent I’m fully representing him as a G if I’m negotitating with you holding the checkbook

Cam is a center... 

Again... Cam is a center

but just to be clear.... Cam is a center... the pro bowl center.  

With my Iverson voice.... " Not a guard.... not a tackle.... but we talkin bout center"  WE talkin bout center

 

And 10 mil is legit money for an above average C….not paying him 21…18…over 14. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Cam is a center... 

Again... Cam is a center

but just to be clear.... Cam is a center... the pro bowl center.  

With my Iverson voice.... " Not a guard.... not a tackle.... but we talkin bout center"  WE talkin bout center

 

I thought just yesterday…or was it the day before? You just brought up Cam’s resume note as a G.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And 10 mil is legit money for an above average C….not paying him 21…18…over 14. 

LOL ... who said 21 or 18     ... here are your centers...  as you know how business works... the guy who signs the most recent contract gets a high amount compared to the current market... because he is locked in, he cannot ask for a raise.   So you aren't locking in Cam to 2029 or 2030... by giving him an " above average 2025 # "   And really... why do you think they can't afford $14 as the extension #?    using his last year salary to bring down cap hit for this year and actually add cap space?

https://overthecap.com/position/center

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I thought just yesterday…or was it the day before? You just brought up Cam’s resume note as a G.

But you aren't being a d#ckhead on purpose... its GB and myself that do this?     Making a strong case for yourself here!

Didn’t you say Cam was an alternate second cousin to the uncles friend that was a Pro Bowl G?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Didn’t you say Cam was an alternate second cousin to the uncles friend that was a Pro Bowl G?

There is that classy behavior .... really you are just a victim!  

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I thought just yesterday…or was it the day before? You just brought up Cam’s resume note as a G.

You find me Cam's name... where is he at?   You know everything!   Where is Cam? 

 

https://overthecap.com/position/center

https://overthecap.com/position/right-guard

https://overthecap.com/position/left-guard

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