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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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29 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I get it …you can’t form an opinion on this matter…that’s fine. I have.

Yes,  you want to let Cam walk after this year because you feel a pro bowl center is easy to replace. 

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32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I mean Siri was completely against Sanders from day one. How would you believe he as ever coming back? Nobody did.

Siri likes tough players.... that's not Sanders.  Carolina found out the hard way.    It's funny Hargrave is on another team now as well.  Epps is on another team.  CGJ is on his 3rd team since leaving.  Edwards is on the same team though right.. the only guy that left after 2022 that people complained about losing.

He isn't exactly pro bowl either is he?  

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri was against him the first moment he was hired…he was never coming back getting resigned here.

Not really a popular teammate either. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You going to open the bank vaults to Jordan Davis while you’re at it?

Davis might get an offer... idk.  They have the 5th year option at 12.9 mil.

Idk you have to open the bank vaults.  You aren't opening the bank vaults for Cam either, you just have to give him his value to keep him long term

But idk....you seem to want to let everyone go?   

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Might need to use one or two of them on a C…instead of paying Cam just whatever. Might need to move on from Goedert and not pay him also. Bring in a TE.

Goedert is done after this year... he is older... Cam is entering his prime and already pro bowl.  Not even close to same thing.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What would our success rate probabilities look like if we were going to draft a C in the first two rounds?

To find a pro bowl center ASAP?   As compared to using that pick to get positions that you don't have a pro bowl player entering year 4?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Those two positions would probably be what I’d feel most confident in our chances of successfully drafting, wouldn’t you agree?

To find an adequate center... not pro bowl level...and then not using that pick to get another position?

So you prefer to weaken 2 areas?   

Not to mention ruin the work Stout put in over the last 3 years with Kelce’s choice to replace himself with...all that time both of them put into Cam...plus all the chemistry built with his fellow OL?

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Those two positions would probably be what I’d feel most confident in our chances of successfully drafting, wouldn’t you agree?

How about the #1 safety in this draft?

Just now, joemas6 said:

To find an adequate center... not pro bowl level...and then not using that pick to get another position?

So you prefer to weaken 2 areas?   

Not to mention ruin the work Stout put in over the last 3 years with Kelce’s choice to replace himself with...all that time both of them put into Cam...plus all the chemistry built with his fellow OL?

Wow...that's a lot of disrespect to both a guy in Stout who many feel is the best position coach in the league...and Kelce an Eagles legend. 

Not to mention a guy who would be a 3 year established starter.. pro bowl alternate then pro bowl... possibly 2 time pro bowl?  

Wow... not sure that's how you build a winning culture.   But hey, that's your method, to each their own. 

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3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How about the #1 safety in this draft?

Q,DeJean,Blank plus the #1 S Seems we could check those boxes off for 3 years anyhow. Secondary is done for awhile

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IDK we need to think about Lanes replacement now too. Could also be our first pick. I know we need edges and TE too, but those can be had in round 2 or 3. Howie is great at moving around to get who he wants

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1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Again why do you keep missing the amount and going right to $18 mil?

Even if Howie paid the 18 mil, that's his job to decide, not Hams. I doubt there is a need to go that high,but I don't make the decisions either

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The C from OSU could be a nice OG for us

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Even if Howie paid the 18 mil, that's his job to decide, not Hams. I doubt there is a need to go that high,but I don't make the decisions either

Milton Williams with a ridiculous 26 mil per for a part time player ...but he wants 8.5 mil per ...less than 1/3 to a pro bowl full time starter at C... lol. 

Texans CB  Stingley 3 year 90 mil

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Milton Williams with a ridiculous 26 mil per for a part time player ...but he wants 8.5 mil per ...less than 1/3 to a pro bowl full time starter at C... lol. 

Milton’s 26 on the open market with bidding wars …isn’t even going to look like that much when next offseason Jalen Carter signs for 44 mil per.

8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Davis might get an offer... idk.  They have the 5th year option at 12.9 mil.

Idk you have to open the bank vaults.  You aren't opening the bank vaults for Cam either, you just have to give him his value to keep him long term

But idk....you seem to want to let everyone go?   

Going to take emotion and fear out of it…and look at the business to be handled. Jordan Davis and Cam I’m not pretending like there is a open market bidding war that is occurring all by ourselves to retain them early.

8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Goedert is done after this year... he is older... Cam is entering his prime and already pro bowl.  Not even close to same thing.

TE and C are similar in being areas I’d call a strength in our drafting. If I had to pick just the top two positions we rely on to nail in the draft for our success? Which two would you feel at ease with more?

8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

To find a pro bowl center ASAP?   As compared to using that pick to get positions that you don't have a pro bowl player entering year 4?

You have different tools…sometimes you need to utilize different ones.

8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

To find an adequate center... not pro bowl level...and then not using that pick to get another position?

So you prefer to weaken 2 areas?   

Not to mention ruin the work Stout put in over the last 3 years with Kelce’s choice to replace himself with...all that time both of them put into Cam...plus all the chemistry built with his fellow OL?

Yeah…I like developing and growing players…it’s nice of you can keep a coach around and continue developing…instead of changing OCs every season….for example.

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How about the #1 safety in this draft?

Don’t know if I’m riding on Rosie’s S drafting record nearly as much. Could just sign big time vet thatS already familiar with our D under Fangio and Parker. 7 mil over two years for Juston Simmons… he’s a heck of a player and leader.

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How about the #1 safety in this draft?

I do like DWD’s guy. He got me looking at that kid…I have no problems with him. The main drawback would be all that youth in the Secondary. I was thinking a vet leader played at the highest levels like Simmons would be more ideal. Got Q, DeJean, Ringo, Sidney and Blankenship…going with a young stud wouldn’t be the worst move…but it feels like it’s screaming for that vet leader to have it all pulled together more.

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