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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If I’m Cam’s Agent I’m fully representing him as a G if I’m negotitating with you holding the checkbook

Nah... the agent should make him a QB

or 

" YAC creation specialist"   or  " highest paid Non QB"   

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His agent very easily can be representing him as a starting NFL G talent

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hmmm... what year is that? 

OHHHH  in 2021 Siri gave up play calling.... but in 2017 SF cleared cap.    I get it now.    Pro bowl and Superbowl champion C ... at the moment isn't what matters... its 2023 playing RG ... I get it now.   Wonder if he gets RG money on the open market.  I'm sure his agent can persuade teams he is a G....lol     Just like Reddick is gonna get big bucks!   

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

His agent very easily can be representing him as a starting NFL G talent

Sure... the league can very easily laugh in his face

He’s above average whichever Oline position. Not getting Dickerson or those other four guys making 21 mil…not getting Humphrey 18 mil money either. I’m moving on from him before getting too much into having to pay him like top five. My offer was take the unicorn C away and then he’d be tied for fifth. You want to throw in an extra 50K? Fine..he’d be all alone as fifth…nonCreed  C.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

His agent very easily can be representing him as a starting NFL G talent

So you think another team would want to play him at Guard  or Center?   

But his agent could easily .... I'm sorry.... very easily convince a team to pay him as a top G even though they would play him at C.

That's a nice planet you live on

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Sure... the league can very easily laugh in his face

He was a Pro bowl alternate at G. ..like you noted.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s above average whichever Oline position. Not getting Dickerson or those other four guys making 21 mil…not getting Humphrey 18 mil money either. I’m moving on from him before getting too much into having to pay him like top five. My offer was take the unicorn C away and then he’d be tied for fifth. You want to throw in an extra 50K? Fine..he’d be all alone as fifth…nonCreed  C.

Again... for those with the stick stuck up their arse so far that it effects their reading .... Nobody ever said for Cam to make Dickerson money

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He was a Pro bowl alternate at G. ..like you noted.

Correct.... means nothing if a team is going to play him at C.   You follow?   

Just now, joemas6 said:

Again... for those with the stick stuck up their arse so far that it effects their reading .... Nobody ever said for Cam to make Dickerson money

You said top five is what he needs to get paid…at his age..to lock down a player longer term….there happens to be five G all get paid what Dickerson makes.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He was a Pro bowl alternate at G. ..like you noted.

Maybe you can convince Jalen Carter's agent to say he is a DE.... so he can get the big money?    

Ohhh ... I forgot... " Non QB"  

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You said top five is what he needs to get paid…at his age..to lock down a player longer term….there happens to be five G all get paid what Dickerson makes.

Yes... top 5 Center money.... because he is a Center and will play center for the rest of his career

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You said top five is what he needs to get paid…at his age..to lock down a player longer term….there happens to be five G all get paid what Dickerson makes.

Are you saying Dickerson is top 5 ...  here are your top 5

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback

21 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Maybe you can convince Jalen Carter's agent to say he is a DE.... so he can get the big money?    

Ohhh ... I forgot... " Non QB"  

Elite disruptive force and wrecking ball

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Elite disruptive force and wrecking ball

Can we please have the pleasure…to drop this bag off for you….sir…Disruptive Wrecking  Ball Sir

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Elite disruptive force and wrecking ball

" Interior Defensive Line"   

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6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Elite disruptive force and wrecking ball

" Interior Defensive Line"  with a 5th year option as the 9th pick in the 2023 draft.  

you can call it " disruptive creative specialist"  " Wrecking ball operator"    " Darth Vader's right hand man"   " Uber ordering necessatist" ... " Ham's second in line to Hurts for ball washing"   

Anything you want.

The pay scale it what it is... he is under contract for $1,145 mil salary in 2026 ... and a 5th year option around $15 mil for 2027.  He can't do anything about that.  So before we go pay him $250 mil for the next 5 years... he will have to absorb those 2 cheap years into his new deal.  You want to give him $250 mil for 2028 to 2032.. then his total deal will be 7 years 266 mil.

There is your $37-38 mil per.       If he can get that... God bless.   

 

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

" Interior Defensive Line"   

He mans the Offensive No Work Zones!!!!

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

"He mans the Offensive No Work Zones!!!!'

You should go into his negotiations.... come up with all these titles.... and then Howie...." ugh yeah, interior defensive line... 9th pick of 2023 for 5th year option, can we start for real now"  

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Why argue about things you don't control? let Howie do his job. You can like the moves or not but the moves are not up to you, the pay scale is not up to you. his draft choices are not up to you, Although we lost some people it's pretty amazing a SB winner has 20 picks in the next 2 drafts. More moves can be made in camp post draft. The contracts I am not good at,but it doesn't even matter. That is why no one on this board sits in Howies chair at the Linc

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20 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

" Interior Defensive Line"   

AKA DT

No details of Zach Baun's contract.    Obviously nothing conventional... probably with an out after a year.  Not a real long term commitment... a rental player that was rewarded and he chose to stay.

Highest salary on the 2025 Eagles..... Cam Jurgens = $5.346 million  .... prime candidate to lower the cap with an extension.   Brilliant set up by Howie.  If we recall, Jurgens was the last one to sign right before camp.

Jordan Davis the 2nd highest salary at $3,024 mil.... with a $12.9 mil 5th year option ... could very easily see an extension on a team friendly basis.  Half or a third of the price of Milton Williams.   

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