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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Lol.. everything going right.... everything going wrong for us....they won by a game.   They can never " complete the puzzle" because they are learning checkers when it comes to contracts.  Read the article....its from a Dallas perspective.  

I never said Dallas was doing contracts great. Not a word ever came out my mouth saying that. But you…and the article writer aren’t even processing the main failures of how Jones is setting all this up on himself. It starts all before anything either of you has brought up. It was dumb to trade for Amari Cooper to boost Dak so high. Dumb to put Ceedee in such an obvious situation for him to be boosted so high. He’s been setting these guys up to succeed in asking for top contracts. Creating fairly ideal situations for them in contract season situations.

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3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Imagine the Eagles had nothing on the roster drafted between Lane Johnson 1st pick of 2013.. and Dallas Goedert 1st pick of 2018.... the crap 2019 draft... and Dallas hasn't been as good.  Every year since the 2016 season the Eagles have been playing while Dallas has already finished their season.    

Imagine it the Eagles could draft?   Or Imagine from a Dallas viewpoint...they could only write contracts correctly?

Idk...what seems more difficult?  Picking the right college guys... or simply understanding basic business?

I think more people on the planet can do simple business.  Selecting players for an NFL team seems way more hit and miss...even for the best draft experts.

Been one game difference between us and the cowboys every season here to determine the Division winner. As much as I’m so clearly on the Eagles side and against the cowboys….I’m just not that blinded by being that much of a Homer to not recognize this.

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They draft well... their inability to understand the business side of the game...has been preventing them from " completing your puzzles.".. jigsaw,  crossword or any other type!

It’s not them I root for. I need our team to complete the Championship Puzzle. That’s my concern.

Signing a top dollar vet RB just to sell tickets and not suck doesn’t resonate positively with me. To be a legit contender? That I’m all aboard for.

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They draft well... their inability to understand the business side of the game...has been preventing them from " completing your puzzles.".. jigsaw,  crossword or any other type!

Keep working on figuring out all the roles a GM needs to perform. That’s been around much longer than just 30 years. You should have figured out more than a little of those by now.

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They draft well... their inability to understand the business side of the game...has been preventing them from " completing your puzzles.".. jigsaw,  crossword or any other type!

Yet had them one game up or down with us for years now. What does that say about us?

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How many seasons you riding on Lane, Saquan,Goedert…? Is a brilliant GM plan consisting of paying these guys top dollar to try and win a championship in 2027?

Lane is paid until 2026. ..I expect him to play until then.  He said he was going to...and they extended him with nice money until then with new money when it wasn't necessary to do so.

Sorry if my standards of wishing to root for a contending team are too steep for you. If all you wish for is the team to sell tickets and go for reaching the 22nd pick? Then I’m sure you are very happy. Just not how I look at things.

Btw...there was no addition to the puzzle today.  Today was about the business side.   

Which I've continually said here....the business side done properly allows them to take more swings...  doesn't mean they connect or hit with each move....but for the life of me...I can't figure out how anyone wouldn't want his team to be able to make more moves?

Constant whining about failed move or this and that....this article puts things in perspective from outside our fanbase.  Imagine your team always drafts the right guys...hypes up all the superstars at each position.   But can't get to a championship game?  Because they go a decade without being able to sign free agents....meanwhile your rival who hits on draft picks way less....can have more real success...gets to Superbowls etc... simply because they can spend money and make moves.

Which team would you rather be a fan of?   One team has a chance to get the puzzle completed ...the other doesn't. 

Unless your goal is 11 or 12 regular season wins before you lose to the real competition in the playoffs. 

Is there a mystery about if Dallas wants to sign Lamb?  He should have been extended LAST YEAR.   

Pollard was not a $10.7 million cap hit level RB.   Dak isn't a $95 mil cap hit for one season type of QB . Lawrence hasn't performed to his cap hit.  

They never do the business side right. Congrats on winning some regular season games and a division title every so often.  Go to the local community College and take a business course... probably will help them more than watching any draft film.

Meanwhile in Philly.....OMG why is Howie taking so long to sign Smith?????  

Lol

Ceedee Lamb has been stating he needs to be the top paid WR. DeVonta accepted 25 mil per. Those situations are not equal. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Meanwhile in Philly.....OMG why is Howie taking so long to sign Smith?????  

Lol

Happened right when I predicted didn’t it?

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sorry if my standards of wishing to root for a contending team are too steep for you. If all you wish for is the team to sell tickets and go for reaching the 22nd pick? Then I’m sure you are very happy. Just not how I look at things.

Dallas according to you has a higher standard.

Constant complaints isn't raising a standard.   A little self awareness about your QB and your GM might help.

Comments like May 2nd deadline show ignorance.   Especially when you can't follow up with the specific explanation as to how the contract works and why the team had to have it done by May 2nd? 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Happened right when I predicted didn’t it?

Yeah may 2nd?

I don’t even see the DeVonta signing as some kind of GM brilliance. Seemed like a fairly standard obvious move to be made. Recognizing a good young player. Then paid him big time money. Paying a player 25 mil a season isn’t executing supreme brilliance grabbing some steal of a signing. Good signing. Paying a player his worth. How I see it.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dallas according to you has a higher standard.

Constant complaints isn't raising a standard.   A little self awareness about your QB and your GM might help.

Comments like May 2nd deadline show ignorance.   Especially when you can't follow up with the specific explanation as to how the contract works and why the team had to have it done by May 2nd? 

When did I ever say Dallas has a higher standard? Never. Ok…carry on with your argument you obviously are trying to have with somebody else…that doesn’t exist. Haven’t read anybody in this place stating Cowboys have the highest standard…are brilliant with contracts…any of this.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ceedee Lamb has been stating he needs to be the top paid WR. DeVonta accepted 25 mil per. Those situations are not equal. 

Why couldn't Lamb be highest paid WR last year?    By the time all these other guys get paid, he would  be a bargain... if they signed him last year.   Did Lamb ( prior to 2023) show that he was the top WR?   No... but now after 2023...Dallas is screwed.  

You " overpay"  after year 3....the cash part...the only part that the player cares about...it allows you to manipulate the money and cap hits year 4. With more leverage. 

The $25 mil per is a BS #. So is the " guaranteed "  what matters is the signing bonus with the sales pitch of getting the bag early and then getting bag #2 early again.  

Pay the player early. Better business. 

But I can’t sit and here and lick Rosie’s scrotum over everything he does is so brilliant and everything Jones does is moronic…when every season it comes down to a one game difference between the two of us.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t even see the DeVonta signing as some kind of GM brilliance. Seemed like a fairly standard obvious move to be made. Recognizing a good young player. Then paid him big time money. Paying a player 25 mil a season isn’t executing supreme brilliance grabbing some steak of a signing. Good signing. Paying a player his worth. How I see it.

Right...it's  not any GM brilliance.    The other guys NOT signing is GM stupidity. 

Sometimes...especially in business...avoiding the stupidity ends up being more important than the occasional brilliant move.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But I can’t sit and here and lick Rosie’s scrotum over everything he does is so brilliant and everything Jones does is moronic…when every season it comes down to a one game difference between the two of us.

Right you save your tongue for Hurts

At some point when the draft shifts a little in favor of the Eagles... it's not going to be pretty.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right...it's  not any GM brilliance.    The other guys NOT signing is GM stupidity. 

Sometimes...especially in business...avoiding the stupidity ends up being more important than the occasional brilliant move.

Who has been mentioning Jones contract brilliance? Oh that’s right…nobody. Carry on

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Right you save your tongue for Hurts

Best QB in our franchises history. You’ve been stuck complaining about him the whole time. 

For most of us... who see Hurts for what he is.... we still feel better about the Eagles future than the unknown of Dallas at their QB...either overpaying Dak or starting over.

I can't imagine a dude who licks his Hurts poster before going to bed every night can't think the Eagles are in way better shape?

Idk maybe they think McCarthy is such a great coach?

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