No excuse for that Zona field. No reasonable contradictory argument to be made it wasn’t so clearly a disadvantage to our team. Nothing but clear targeting us by Goodell trying to ban our play. Packers supplied their attempted proposal against us. Ok. NFC team clearly self interest against us. Get it. They have that right. But…why didn’t that vote happen? Only really one educated assumption to arrive at. Goodell interfered knowing that was going to fail. He utilized the full power at his disposal towards targeting us. He canvased every owner finding out what it would take to get their vote against us. Completely had to change the Packers wording as well as lobbying each owner to win votes. Packers proposal I doubt receives more than half of the league votes against us.

Goodell I don’t doubt was behind the delaying surrounding the Packers proposal against us. Full power of the leagues offices against us…that’s what went down.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Goodell I don’t doubt was behind the delaying surrounding the Packers proposal against us. Full power of the leagues offices against us…that’s what went down.

Get best wording, lobbying…who knows what Goodell promised to which owners getting 22 votes together?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Goodell I don’t doubt was behind the delaying surrounding the Packers proposal against us. Full power of the leagues offices against us…that’s what went down.

What’s the other explanation? Why didn’t the Pack proposal not just go to vote? It wouldn’t have been close to working to ban our play. Anybody believe Pack just realized their own proposal was just so terrible it had no chance? I mean…they wouldn’t have submitted what they did if so. So obvious a huge behind the scenes machine went to work against us. Wasn’t the Pack themselves. This clearly was the same powers that cheating and manipulating everything they can against us here. Field, refs…all that only got a 3 point barely denying us outcome. Fair game very likely we convincly beat them. Come back and totally did.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

What’s the other explanation? Why didn’t the Pack proposal not just go to vote? It wouldn’t have been close to working to ban our play. Anybody believe Pack just realized their own proposal was just so terrible it had no chance? I mean…they wouldn’t have submitted what they did if so. So obvious a huge behind the scenes machine went to work against us. Wasn’t the Pack themselves. This clearly was the same powers that cheating and manipulating everything they can against us here. Field, refs…all that only got a 3 point barely denying us outcome. Fair game very likely we convincly beat them. Come back and totally did.

So how else can Goodell stop us now? Doing everything short of kidnapping our players. Gotta target Eagles specifically and solely by taking away our play. Manipulate schedule. Done. Refs, stadium no hold back tampering.

Lose focus targeting Hurts fumble returned for a TD by Bolton. Shanked P. Goddell and the league are blatantly against us trying everything they can to thwart us.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Lose focus targeting Hurts fumble returned for a TD by Bolton. Shanked P. Goddell and the league are blatantly against us trying everything they can to thwart us.

Everything…

23 minutes ago, mattwill said:

63 posts in a row. Well done. Have you enjoyed talking to yourself?

With that noted, what do you think my opinion is? Not that it matters, you have already confirmed it.

I just kept giving you every chance to respond and state your case. I had more to add if there was any need. So wasn’t like I was finished even. Kept giving you every opportunity to handle that discussion however you decided to. Your response is a poor one. Because I have several times directly asked for and awaited your reply. To such levels I moved on discussing much more important subject until you chose any response to supply.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You think Ben Johnson isn’t going to be running the O in Chicago? Did Shannahan just stop running the O when he took over in Santa Clara? On and on and on…Fangio in Denver as HC…ran the D.

Which one of those won a Superbowl?

We need to get serious and motivate focusing on getting Goodell out of there. If things would have been within manipulation potential I totally believe we’d have been screwed again. Don’t want everybody to just ignore and get so lax just because we annihilated them so they couldn’t cheat us.

4 hours ago, mattwill said:

Sirianni has had a grand total of 4 Offensive Coordinators. How can you have an outlier in a data set of only four. He has had even fewer Defensive Coordinators.

One sucked....the outlier....the QB'S family friend

We deserve just a fair chance and playing field …and let things fall wherever they fall. But who here believes that’s what we’ll be getting?

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which one of those won a Superbowl?

AR won two before ours just now

33 minutes ago, mattwill said:

63 posts in a row. Well done. Have you enjoyed talking to yourself?

With that noted, what do you think my opinion is? Not that it matters, you have already confirmed it.

He isn't done yet

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which one of those won a Superbowl?

Example after example listing those names. Not the point though. Point was supposedly great O or D mind relinquishing utilizing that to instead just CEO HC.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which one of those won a Superbowl?

Weak retort. Ben Johnson is a rookie HC without even his first chance to do so. You really just come at making the point about how his first offseason Johnson hasn’t already won it all yet? Before he even coached his first regular season game.

Jordan Mailata has really matured into not only a great player, but a great teammate. Unbelievable how that trading up of two 7th round picks turned into such a great move. The young OL are in great hands, not only with arguably the best position coach in the league, but with such great teammates to work with.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

One sucked....the outlier....the QB'S family friend

Siri sucked,.,then Steichen carried him,

Steichen left. Siri sucked again…but rolled for awhile not exposing so for weeks off the back of Steichen established with his team.

2024 Siri control over scripted gameplanning produced the worst O league wide. Think about every so much less talented O teams that produced more.

The true outlier would he Siri showing him running his O being of any quality.

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

One sucked....the outlier....the QB'S family friend

No version much of anything backs up Siri was just going along with his confidence surrounding his O abilities he just took a backseat to a first rule OC he never hired…or promoted. Johnson was Rosie Florida guy on Hurts side. When everything points directly towards Hurts and Johnson having huge problems questioning Siri X and O abilities and O scheme in general.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

One sucked....the outlier....the QB'S family friend

Siri number one determine win/loss factor he’s stated as belief: big plays. Yet the 2023 completely devoid of scheme relying completely on Hurts to escape pressure and to make the big plays to AJ and Smitty were instead some other guy running things?

Such a difference between now and 7 years ago. The Superbowl hangover, getting the statue and all the celebrating all offseason in 2018, compared to now where they are all business and looking to get to work.

You listen to these guys and everyone around Novacare and they seem like they want to play a game tomorrow. It's a great vibe here. The Phillies handling business lately has also helped.

Come back after full stripping of power with Siri in 2024. Was made clear by owner and GM along with Siri acknowledging this being the case. With a straight face even the situation where Siri so much less power and supposedly even any dealings with the O…wasn’t all up involved in our O in 2024.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

Absolutely, Looks like there are 12 HCs calling Offensive plays for their teams and 4 calling Defensive plays and 16 calling neither.

Really doesn't matter... the two Superbowls are equally as shiny. The vibe around the organization is so positive right now. Opening day vs the biggest rival as the championship banner gets unveiled is great... hearing Jones call us the World Champion.... awesome. But the best part is how the team just seems so eager to get back to work!!

I mean go along with ignoring every circumstantial sign surrounding 2023 that Siri was totally in charge of the O. That was after making the SB. Big power for Siri going into 2023. That your opinion is he that season was less hands on than 2024 when he was stripped of power? No logic being applied could conclude this.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Such a difference between now and 7 years ago. The Superbowl hangover, getting the statue and all the celebrating all offseason in 2018, compared to now where they are all business and looking to get to work.

You listen to these guys and everyone around Novacare and they seem like they want to play a game tomorrow. It's a great vibe here. The Phillies handling business lately has also helped.

Totally different. Jalen Carter is say biggest reason. But 2017 was a franchise backloaded paying the next seasons to have accomplished that. Each season less and less talented roster. That’s without factoring in Wentz. 2022 team was built beggining a dynasty. Built on young talent that was sustainable.