6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I may join you if here is another chair

That is your call.

We can agree to disagree I guess. But curious. Do you believe 2-2 after the bye Siris job at stake Browns game.. Siri didn’t take over? You think Siri trusted Moore with his career being that Moore was his replacement if fired? Siri career he’s leaving to the guy most benefiting from his firing? You must have a differnt take completely on things some how. No possible way fans can actually 100 percent concrete know the answer. I shared my fairly educated take on how things went down. It’s possible my assumptions aren’t accurate. Bunch of assumptions taking place surrounding everything right there too. New O, Moore or Siri, Siri facing firing, Oline came asking to run…

We learned about the Oline request to Siri. Notable it wasn’t to Moore. Whatever you get from that. New created O been confirmed happened. How much was players just not mastering enough yet? My assumption goes all the way to new Scheme not mastered yet. So scheme tweaking and adjusting after first four games on a bye….makes plenty of sense to be possible…likely I’d say. If still working on the scheme being designed? No way players mastered executing something just created days before the week 5 game.

Could be a bit of each opinion really. Never know I guess. Backing me up I also have Steelers last real regular season game and playoffs. Convinced I witnessed more going on from that game on. Maybe I need to rewatch. Watched them a few times though thinking this. Pretty sure we used plays hadn’t been used. Combined with plays dialed back coming back out.

Convinced most every circumstantial evidence pointing towards Siri took over after the bye dialing back Moore’s O. Then Moore came back Steelers game pretty obviously. Playoffs compared to week 6,7,8..? Probably need to do an exact breakdown comparing and exactly specifically reasoning. Had the Saquan Giants game. That game wasn’t Moore’s O…that was Saquan showing old team your incompetent. Pay Daniel Jones but not Saquan. Giants aren’t contending next two years probably anyway. So not very likely Saquan domination lasts long enough for their franchise to capitalize on building …something..anything..hahaha..hate the giants. But..Nabers is great. They just got super stud rookie pass rusher. Huge building block pieces. Dart works out? They could start winning big. Would say WR and pass rusher two biggest building blocks after QB. They got studs there. Whatever…wasn’t happy they drafted those two. Instead of elite stud pass rusher wished they took Shadeur Sanders. Would have been great to laugh at another terrible move. But they played things pretty actually. Call it like it is see it…even complimenting most hated team.

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

If you step back and look at that interchange objectively, you contributed your share to the Saturn debacle as anyone else did. Plenty of dirty fingerprints to go around.

When situations like that come up, count to ten before responding and ask yourself, "Am I being an elephant?”

Wouldn’t know what that means. I’m a faced with dumbest of the dumb statement? Absolutely! What can my response be that lowers anything to that? Yeah..not agreeing. Being told I’ve never seen Saturn definitely discussion killing way beyond my response or any of my statements. But..no version you chime in with…I’ve seen Saturn plenty of nights in the sky. Don’t know …anything. You accept others carrying on with several posts stating the stupid crap possible. Is what it is. You are more accepting than me of ..not why I would come to this spot. But that is all in question I couldn’t answer anyway.

Go along with the 31st draft pick was on everybodies draft board top 10. This stuff is the dumbest stuff I’ve ever heard. You can go along with whatever you wish. I’d have called that moronic when I was 5 years old. Probably earlier..

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

You might want to stop sharing your thoughts … maybe not stop but ratchet back. A lot of what you post is verbal diarrhea and/or mental mast**bation.

Yeah..thinking mine was had much more to offer than yours did. Yours was a reply too. Obviously I’m feeling like my shared thoughts have value and substance. Which has become rare here. But have your opinion. Do you. I have tried to consider everything said. But ..never going to be a moment I’m taking your advice about my thoughts and where and when I decide to share them. Take it or leave it…but..know this was the held back nicest reply to what you just said and did. I admit express g myself concisely and perfectly isn’t my strong suit. But also…you probably should consider that post and my thoughts a little more ..could be of value. You choose. I’ll choose about my thought thank you.

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I like CEO... Knoll, Johnson, Parcells, Belicheck... being able to manage the game instead of being buried in details.

I can give you a couple of times once really good understudies have been developing a HC could give their understudy more power. Belicheck kind of added a bunch of O duties on doing both sides. Bellicheck developing his OC and DC understudies for years let them do more over time also. So…give you at least coming up with one…I’ll plead ignorance on Knoll. Don’t remember enough or knew enough.

6 hours ago, mattwill said:

Ham, read your quoted post above. It comes across as the words of desperately trying to be "right.” Then if you agree that it sounds that way, think about the fact that the only person who cares whether you are right or wrong is you.

Said another way, that whole post was you talking to yourself. It wasn’t even a lecture. It was a monologue.

Some quality points shared. Lions been a team could have won last three SBs. But they are flawed and can’t and won’t. Every game isn’t equal. Number one seed.. not the same as can be a champion. Turning a bad franchise massively around celebrated. But a guy that does that isn’t the same as can coach to win championship. Goff the same. Goff is a SB winning QB.

Yeah..out loud thinking some in it. Added the Rams as the second team could have stopped us. Pulled that one out. Biggest roadblock…we lucked out missing. Worthy of consideration in my opinion. Best team, number one seed ,only team we had to play on the road. Every single one of those factors completely against us in the game we dodged. Who knows? If you got to choose which one to avoid? We did it.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

I gave you the names of 12 HCs who follow the CEO model. That is 37.5% of the 32. So you consider .375 an insignificant number?

You heard the word "most” purely out of your imagination and because it is what you do, you kicked into "viciously annihilate” mode.

That wasn’t the statement. The statement was O and D minded coaches doing it when promoted. O mind giving up running his o as HC D mind giving up running his D when promoted.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

You insult people just for your own pleasure. Howie has done nothing to you, yet nonetheless you call him Rosie. You started calling me MattyWill long before you earned my wrath. I’ll go back and dig up your transgression. But rather than forcing a confrontation, why don’t you act like a decent person and show some respect for others.

Everywhere in life people earn or receive nicknames. MattyWill pretty weak though. I’d consider a nickname a form of acceptance and actually being included. But I don’t like MattyWill either. I was trying…kind of thought in a way for your benefit. But whatever. Seems like you believe there’s a version where I’m going you tell me how I should think, act, be as a person….i consider friendly advice meaning well. You were terribly mistaken if you believed in looking for your approval or permission to do absolutely anything. You got the wrong guy.

You keep telling me I’m at fault and guilty of what you do yourself. Forcing a confrontation would be…whatever man…is what it is. You can keep believing in your superior understandings of everything to educate my so inferior in need of your greatness assistance.

I’m not insulting most of the time…other than I guess last few days on here. Think you can tell me who and how I am..or say dumb stuff…I’m not likely to respond accepting and gracious too. I’m going to be me. Is what it is.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Reading is fundamental. I said I had never once heard him say that even once. That is a 100% accurate statement. You are carrying a grudge for ancient history. At least be honest about your own biases.

Then said I’m hearing voices. You replied to my statement replying to his statement. So you don’t know…understood…but you replied. I mean you were completely wrong…when you just replied to correct me. You messed up there. If you’re just pointing out how somebody statement isn’t right? You need to be sure you are in the right. Correcting somebody knows and is 100 percent accurate is a you problem. I was right you were wrong. Happens at times…but real dumb when you’re wrong when your only point was to correct another. Then you say I’m hearing voices…so you don’t even know…rally to correct what you don’t know about…then throw insult and shade…yet you feel fine with yourself and shouldn’t even apologize? Shame? Embarrassment? Foolish? Foot in mouth? I’ll just leave out the harsh terms.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Then get your tail out at the minicamps and punt better than the others do. That way you will be putting your money where your mouth is.

I’m no NFL P…but can P further than that shank. Interesting how you feel qualified to give me such advice. Wonder where you developed that understanding about yourself?

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Then get your tail out at the minicamps and punt better than the others do. That way you will be putting your money where your mouth is.

What do I do for a living? Trying to understand how you are qualified and knowledgable enough you feel like you could form an opinion about this and me. I’ll return some advice to you. Learn enough about something to have any reason to form your own opinion. Especially out of place when you believe you can advise another knowing so much more than yourself about the subject. Your like the janitor advising the principle about how to be a principle.

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

No, not impossible. Only impossible if all teams select using a BPA model, but many teams select based on Need.

Look at the selections and the Need picks become crystal clear.

Plus each team has its own Top 10 list of the players they consider to be a BPA. Just like voting for the year end awards. The number of players who receive votes always exceeds the number of votes each respective voter gets to include on their ballot.

It’s your teams list which you weight according to need and position value. Everybody is different. But sure…31st pick was on most teams top ten list. Also moon has a higher population than Earth. Earth is flat….yeah that’s where we are at here obviously. So let’s dig deep into that discussion. Or…it’s more likely most teams weren’t drafting him in the first round. Some might have crossed him off their board all together. We had him high…so got who we wanted. It’s not impossible we can trade for Jayden Daniels and have two elite QBs. Cincinnati could trade us Burrow and Chase.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

When did I say this??? Morons make up garbage, said it was said by someone else because they aren't intelligent enough to follow a subject line in a discussion without resorting to juvenile speaking using "kiddie" terms, so that's a moron and a schizophrenic one at that. You must have Prozac and Fanapt IV's to even function as a moron

Notice the ?…making it a question…didn’t say those were your words.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

McVay went 5-12 after their SB win. Lord help you dude when you can read and comprehend

And…you said Eagles went what in 2019 after the SB. Seems like my issue revolving around that I can read and comprehend. But sure…you don’t know when we won our first SB is my fault. Did you mess up on a test in third grade because of me too? Have you ever admitted you were wrong about anything? Ever?

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

To show you how faulty your memory is, I went back and grabbed the first two posts in the CEO interchange. The first post is you presenting your hypothesis. The second is my response, which (1) was a question to you not a statement, and (2) nowhere says anything even remotely like "most HC known for O or D genius tend to not run that side of the ball and just CEO”. Instead of pursuing the research to have a two-way discussion, you attacked.

BTW, the process of tracking down those CEO posts caused me to read every post of mine back through May 1st and the most insulting/nasty comment I made about you was calling you "a liar” when you had clearly and repeatedly lied. I also said in a parenthetical aside “(possibly a pathological liar)”. Nothing more, nothing less. Judging by your reaction it is clear that the truth hurts.

Again correcting me when you’re wrong. You made a statement I replied to. But what you brought up I posted was O and D genius continue running that when promoted to HC. Which they do. I could go back and bring up your statement to prove everything…but what would that do or change? Deny what you said…whatever…you are who you are. You even posted one of my replies that backs up my memory and against what you remembered. Furthermore…you even did all that and didn’t get the main statement. You either just failed to do what you were actually trying to do? Or..you saw what you said and realized you shouldn’t quote that terrible statement again. Either way…you really wasted time going through all that for nothing. Quote your statement then read my response…then ..we’ll actually have what you said you did..but didn’t.

2018 Rams

They lost their starting quarterback, top three receivers, four starting offensive linemen, their All-Pro defensive tackle and several other players at various points due to injury, causing the Rams to constantly promote players from the practice squad

If any facts matter. But McVay to be judged poorly about it. Already talked Siri plenty enough. O genius was what my claim was about McVay. HC not exactly the same thing. Key here…Siri best qualities being the other things difference.

Plus I can’t remember everything concerning Rams history. But didn’t they also have a couple of real older vet pickups they made just for that SB run that didn’t return the next season? Couple of bad moves/signings and losses between SB and attempt to repeat.

Rams went All All in to win the year the SB was at their home stadium,right? Think they’re the only ones accomplished that also. I have no problem with a team pushing all the chips in to win a SB. McVay’s first. First SB championship…I’d say good call by them. Fall off the next season? Totally acceptable. Not like you want it…but…become a champion…especially when everything is lined up best to make it happen. Dealing with Oline 4 started out injured and went down to third stringers even injured …didn’t like a third stringer..maybe even PS Oline had to play injured. Top 4 WR out injured. Stafford got injured.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Rams went All All in to win the year the SB was at their home stadium,right? Think they’re the only ones accomplished that also. I have no problem with a team pushing all the chips in to win a SB. McVay’s first. First SB championship…I’d say good call by them. Fall off the next season? Totally acceptable. Not like you want it…but…become a champion…especially when everything is lined up best to make it happen. Dealing with Oline 4 started out injured and went down to third stringers even injured …didn’t like a third stringer..maybe even PS Oline had to play injured. Top 4 WR out injured. Stafford got injured.

But here you go…judging McVay on only record. Does that SB repeat chance season define McVay? What did you say FL? 5 wins. Nothing else factors in been at least FL and No Mas near sole judgement of greatest coach. Defense also. To both of you McVay is very defined because that season Rams only accomplished 5 win? Got a sort of answer from FL already. He compared McVay that season to the Eagles.

They lost their starting quarterback, top three receivers, four starting offensive linemen, their All-Pro defensive tackle and several other players at various points due to injury, causing the Rams to constantly promote players from the practice squad

No details or circumstances or any other factors are considered, is that correct? All this…irrelevant judging a HC performance. 5 wins…all those losses due to poor coaching by McVay.

Do you believe 2025 Eagles setup much better to repeat than the 2018 Eagles?

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

2018 Rams

They lost their starting quarterback, top three receivers, four starting offensive linemen, their All-Pro defensive tackle and several other players at various points due to injury, causing the Rams to constantly promote players from the practice squad

If any facts matter. But McVay to be judged poorly about it. Already talked Siri plenty enough. O genius was what my claim was about McVay. HC not exactly the same thing. Key here…Siri best qualities being the other things difference.

Now really seeming like Siri has a strength surrounding injuries. Luck? Coincidence? Youth? Great combination of young athletes that go extra lengths with their bodies(diet, training, weights)? I always felt like it was as mostly luck…out of HC control…BUT Siri seems to be a factor. Think having the right players young dedicated hard working in top shape every season …is also key. Rosie really been targeting players exactly fitting this bill. Got me considering changing my thoughts about control over injuries.

GM and HC do seem have figured out key factors having their team as healthy as any coach I can think of. Acquiring talent and not suffering injuries major major factors. These two together figured out something so much more than any coach ever. Something special to be elite injury manager. Control over how quick a guy returns after injury something always been considered. Been mentioned Siri chose to limit risk with the O. Could that be true…but really talking about limiting injuries? I’m starting to believe. Obviously rushing the ball keeps the clock going. So less possessions each game. You do that for so much of the game …have the lead and completey ice the game to finish. Exactly how our season went. What Siri made happen.

We had the fourth most plays in the NFL…most time of possession

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Same successes, IDENTICAL, except McVay could not hold his team together as I have already proven. Huge fall of after their SB

Any chance you want to adjust your opinion? Wins and losses…..all due to great coaching each win.. bad coaching each loss. I wouldn’t say record doesn’t matter at all. But…there are a hundred other factors going into wins and losses.