5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That part is true,even so you can see Mahomes make the plays on the field. He is PASS first,run if he has too,Hurts panics too soon. he should use his legs like mahomes to move around in the pocket and lame the additional 1-2 reads instead of just running automatically after 1 read

Just not an accurate statement. Other than he isn’t Mahomes. This part is completely true. But Mahomes wouldn’t have been Mahomes…without AR.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s fantastic at running and making the decisions on RPOs. This can’t be disputed. He’s clearly not Peyton manning level QB reading NFL Ds for sure though.

Right,yet you call us haters for understanding his limitations and wanting him to improve them. We don't hate Hurts,we want to see a SB like you do. But you have to be able to take the blinders off and be realistic. Now we have a new OC who is more into the west coast passing offense. Knowing Hurts deficiencies,it will be interesting to see what plays they give him

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Just not an accurate statement. Other than he isn’t Mahomes. This part is completely true. But Mahomes wouldn’t have been Mahomes…without AR.

Oh boy do I disagree. Put Mahomes in this offense and watch us take off. We actually have the better receivers. They had Hill one year and Kelce,we have both outside guys and Goedert. There is no reason for Hurts to have to run. Now we have Bark and Hurts better not hog the ball or bark will become disenchanted

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Listen carefully- RPO=run,pass OPTION. If Hurts cannot read defenses he can't or won't change the play AT THE LINE. I didn't like the CALLED RUNS(or that many of them) YET Hurts CHOSE TO do them anyway. He really is piss poor reading defenses and making more than 1 read, has been his issue all along,because he always relied on his legs,not his intelligence reading defenses

I’ll point out one negative against Hurts that’s a huge factor in sort of helping your point: Hurts has been under a new coordinator all but one season of his college and pro career. So I do see and acknowledge how this has affected him. It’s not like the Chiefs where it’s really AR O the whole time anyway. Siri’s O mind hasn’t proven to be so ingenious.

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And Dallas always loses to the good teams at the end....like clockwork. 

Yes they do…no matter how many seasons they start out looking so strong.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just not an accurate statement. Other than he isn’t Mahomes. This part is completely true. But Mahomes wouldn’t have been Mahomes…without AR.

I will call BS and WHY we lost the SB. Let's recall the had a 10 point lead at the 1/2. Mahomes made the needed plays and we(Hurts) had no response

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ll point out one negative against Hurts that’s a huge factor in sort of helping your point: Hurts has been under a new coordinator all but one season of his college and pro career. So I do see and acknowledge how this has affected him. It’s not like the Chiefs where it’s really AR O the whole time anyway. Siri’s O mind hasn’t proven to be so ingenious.

Ok I will give you that,consistency does help,but you have all of camp to work that out. If you suck you're going to do that out of the gate not go 10-1

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes they do…no matter how many seasons they start out looking so strong.

The annual choke LOL

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again....it wasn't a question about Johnson. It was about Hurts leadership. 

It was about what needed to be done was Hurts demand Johnson be relinquished of duties and somebody with better answers and more experience he brought in. I do think Hurts failed the team on this. He just wasn’t going to do what needed to be done throwing his lifelong family friend under the bus. But you know….I respect the heck out of that.

14 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You usually are adamantly against paying the fifth year options….because it involves guaranteed full single season cap hit. 

 

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The signing bonus can’t be that big. This year on top of his cap number wouldn’t be as big if a deal. But a huge signing bonus number divided on top of next year’s guaranteed fifth year option? You’re getting into the twenties of millions on the cap then.

Ok... these two posts lead me to believe that you think Smith is getting what would have been his 5th year salary of $15.5 mil... simply because we exercised the 5th year option?

That's why you were know it about May 2...thinking that it means every player that gets the 5th year option exercised now already goes on the books for next year.  That's not the case.

Neither does it mean that the 3 years between 2026 and 2028 are exactly $75 mil of new money. 

They Eagles can absolutely pay Smith any part of that money now and next year.  Signing bonus, roster bonus or option bonus ( like Hurts)  

The terminology of 3 year extension was technically correct because they exercised year 5...but it's 4 years of an extension in reality.  

The contract is probably going to work like a 5 year $91-93 mil deal.   Starting from scratch.  Next year's 5th year option $ never goes on the books.

BTW Swift wasn't awful. Bark is better than Swift. As I said Howie has given Hurts every tool in the book. The O line we don't know about but the skills players are even better than last year. Hurts has no more excuses now. There is nothing more Howie can do for him

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was about what needed to be done was Hurts demand Johnson be relinquished of duties and somebody with better answers and more experience he brought in. I do think Hurts failed the team on this. He just wasn’t going to do what needed to be done throwing his lifelong family friend under the bus. But you know….I respect the heck out of that.

Forget friendship. It's a business. LURIES business

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He just wasn’t going to do what needed to be done

Then he needs to go away my friend

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Forget friendship. It's a business. LURIES business

The stories being reported were that Hurts was the one having issues with Johnson.   

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right,yet you call us haters for understanding his limitations and wanting him to improve them. We don't hate Hurts,we want to see a SB like you do. But you have to be able to take the blinders off and be realistic. Now we have a new OC who is more into the west coast passing offense. Knowing Hurts deficiencies,it will be interesting to see what plays they give him

Yet you bash Hurts so heavily over having a completely inexperienced OC backed up by our HC Siri. How I’ve always understood things…having played the game….the coach comes up with the gameplan…calls the plays…sets expectations and understandings to his players. Coach wants this to happen with this play…when reading this from the D..and so on. In a bad situation for each playcall clearly identified by the coach he wishes things to be changed and proceed according to his philosophies and plans. If a coach comes with a bad game plan…then is bad at playcalling….yet can’t express to his players adjustments to be made? No player will be successful.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then he needs to go away my friend

Should have been sooner…but the OC at least is gone and fired. HC still here however. Doing what? I wouldn’t know.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was about what needed to be done was Hurts demand Johnson be relinquished of duties and somebody with better answers and more experience he brought in. I do think Hurts failed the team on this. He just wasn’t going to do what needed to be done throwing his lifelong family friend under the bus. But you know….I respect the heck out of that.

It was what was going on during the games and at practice....Hurts being the cause.   Not doing things that the coaches were telling him...etc.   

I think you get obsessed with your point of view that you never open your mind to what's being said.  

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I will call BS and WHY we lost the SB. Let's recall the had a 10 point lead at the 1/2. Mahomes made the needed plays and we(Hurts) had no response

We got the ball in the first half. Chiefs got it in the second half. AR completely owned Gannon. To say Hurts had no response just loses you any credibility. Best player in the game that day. Very clearly. All proclaimed it. Hurts didn’t have a final response because the D didn’t get off the field. PI against Bradbury. Otherwise not a doubt in my mind Hurts drives us down and scores.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet you bash Hurts so heavily over having a completely inexperienced OC backed up by our HC Siri. How I’ve always understood things…having played the game….the coach comes up with the gameplan…calls the plays…sets expectations and understandings to his players. Coach wants this to happen with this play…when reading this from the D..and so on. In a bad situation for each playcall clearly identified by the coach he wishes things to be changed and proceed according to his philosophies and plans. If a coach comes with a bad game plan…then is bad at playcalling….yet can’t express to his players adjustments to be made? No player will be successful.

What is going to be the excuse now?  Are you starting your case against Moore?

AJ has been adamant about his brush ups with Hurts having nothing to do with him getting the ball.  Sirianni getting mixed up in is words talking about the issue looking like deflection to protect Hurts.    The rumors about the locker room not liking his " style " etc.    All had nothing to do with Johnson. 

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Oh boy do I disagree. Put Mahomes in this offense and watch us take off. We actually have the better receivers. They had Hill one year and Kelce,we have both outside guys and Goedert. There is no reason for Hurts to have to run. Now we have Bark and Hurts better not hog the ball or bark will become disenchanted

Still you blatantly disregarding coaching. The Cheetah was with Mahomes four years actually.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We got the ball in the first half. Chiefs got it in the second half. AR completely owned Gannon. To say Hurts had no response just loses you any credibility. Best player in the game that day. Very clearly. All proclaimed it. Hurts didn’t have a final response because the D didn’t get off the field. PI against Bradbury. Otherwise not a doubt in my mind Hurts drives us down and scores.

Mahomes was clearly better ..converting on the key downs when needed.  He was the steak....Hurts had rushing TDs...he was the fantasy sizzle. 

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ok I will give you that,consistency does help,but you have all of camp to work that out. If you suck you're going to do that out of the gate not go 10-1

But that’s exactly what we did last year. Hurts squeeeked out wins to get to 10-1. Never was a team that played a complete four quarter game. Never had things gelled and in sync. But of individuals…making individual plays…from individual playcalls. In fact….announcers clearly identified our O even way back then. Hurts will avoid the rush buying time to hit his WRs downfield. This was the O last season.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But that’s exactly what we did last year. Hurts squeeeked out wins to get to 10-1. Never was a team that played a complete four quarter game. Never had things gelled and in sync. But of individuals…making individual plays…from individual playcalls. In fact….announcers clearly identified our O even way back then. Hurts will avoid the rush buying time to hit his WRs downfield. This was the O last season.

This is your issue.  " Hurts squeaked out wins" but the losses were zero his fault.  

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Mahomes was clearly better ..converting on the key downs when needed.  He was the steak....Hurts had rushing TDs...he was the fantasy sizzle. 

Not even close. But our D didn’t make a single play…heck even make a challenge of a play.71 percent completed passing for Hurts over 300 yards. Ran for 70. Yes he finished drives by running them in. That’s a positive…not a negative. Scored four TDs. I enjoy the sizzle….can’t have a good steak without that.

Just now, joemas6 said:

This is your issue.  " Hurts squeaked out wins" but the losses were zero his fault.  

To be fair our D stepped up two second halves really impressively. Before Desai got canned.