1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Idk that I have seen a better slot CB in quite awhile. When you need to cover the likes of JJ from the slot,there is value in being able to cover him. Howie will pay what he feels the players value is(or make the offer). At that point the player can accept or reject said offer. Sometimes it's not about money, it's about SB's and prestige and recognition which cannot be bought and even other players "like it here and we don't want to move"

If you move him outside WHO would be the slot CB that could play that position as well as he does? I'm sure he could play safety is we asked him to(and we could see that on some sets)

55 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You ever heard of tag and trade?

Nope never, how does it work with a BU QB?

It’s a tricky situation. Exactly why I’ve thought it very discussion worthy to dive all into as a subject. Lesser organizations, coaches and GMs the situation could easily be completely screwed up. But we have strength there. GM isn’t going to bend over backwards sally to please a good young player like that. HC…good at be consistent and honest ..while having most players back. The main key: Fangio. Fangio met this challenge head on. Fangio came right out to the press addressing this issue in the middle of nowhere football calendar. He wasn’t required to hold any press conferences or speak to the media one bit anywhere around that time. Takes more than X and O to be a great coach…though he checks that box with authority. Fangio got hold of any mic available to loudly applaud how outstanding DeJean is at Nickle. How he prefers him playing that position. Backs it up with a belief DeJean enjoys very much playing that position.

Ok…so first practice though…DeJean taking reps outside. So he got what he asked for. But…Fangio is one heck of a DC. Think he just might have given DeJean some glimpses. Like ..”believe in you kid…but you need more work on it.” But…how about S?

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO DeJean will be paid according to the value he brings to the team. He is doing superbly in whatever role they ask of him. Therein lies the value. Howie will pay him accordingly until such time his salary outweighs his value

Nah..think your missing it.

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Idk that I have seen a better slot CB in quite awhile. When you need to cover the likes of JJ from the slot,there is value in being able to cover him. Howie will pay what he feels the players value is(or make the offer). At that point the player can accept or reject said offer. Sometimes it's not about money, it's about SB's and prestige and recognition which cannot be bought and even other players "like it here and we don't want to move"

Or…Q moves along with the number one. I mean..DeJean isn’t covering Jefferson anywhere. Heck would say no CB really could…but Q has me believing…probably beyond any reasonable belief.

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Idk that I have seen a better slot CB in quite awhile. When you need to cover the likes of JJ from the slot,there is value in being able to cover him. Howie will pay what he feels the players value is(or make the offer). At that point the player can accept or reject said offer. Sometimes it's not about money, it's about SB's and prestige and recognition which cannot be bought and even other players "like it here and we don't want to move"

See the key here is you only can think in extremes. Just almost stupid to throw away legacy changing money that will benefit your children, parents, cousins, greatgrand children. You can’t just think about it from your own personal financial situation. Try and step in DeJean’s shoes. I’d love to make in a year what a second round rookie earns. But no relevance here. For DeJean it’s peanuts compared to his potential earnings. You are caught up in any player looking to get paid is greedy and not a team player. Just not being fair FL. NFL pay is short term. Some players get just one big contract opportunity to set themselves up for a lifetime. You are mixing up different situations pretending like it’s all the same. Example: a guy already signed his big contract after his rookie deal. Once he’s made tons of money…then it’s easier and more possible to except a few million less to chase becoming a champion. DeJean is already a champion. He doesn’t have that hole in his wishlist/resume. He hasn’t made that big money yet. Your asking way too much….to be a supposed "team player.”

In short: every player has to sign that first extension for about as large as they can go. I think the team friendly art at that point would be excepting team friendly financial structures so Rosie can massage that cap. Example: Hurts.

FL to answer your question without dodging…other Nickle options are Ricks and Mukuba. But your question was poor..in that…in base DeJean was to play outside and move inside in Nickle. You completely missed that whole key detail.

Ok…here’s the curve ball. No credit to myself…I believe it’s all the maestro Fangio. Fangio I think might have shocked DeJean putting him over his head so early outside to make the point of ‘you aren’t ready.’ But…got your back…”what I can do”(Fangio)…”and you can accel at right now is”…S. Nickle don’t get paid…but S sure do.

At least DeJean at S switching to Nickle depending on package. Drafted Mukuba to be S. But his weakness is size/duarabilty. Honestly wasn’t a guy I noticed to target day two myself. But…once drafted digging in…like the tape. Or…personally just like his playing style. Another.. but….immediately got hit with doubts to begin TC. Sidney isn’t Fangio’s guy either…also durability question marks. McCollum serviceable.

So the curve ball is what if Fangio switches DeJean full time to S this season? Could argue it’s the big team need along with he’s the best option to fill that role. While Mukuba maybe doesn’t work at S afterall right from the jump..maybe never.

What position could you place a smaller DB that can cover and loves to hit and tackle? Is everybodies answer Slot?

DeJean at S and Mukuba at Slot this season. I know it wasn’t the plan…but seems to make a ton of sense for me. Guess that’s my out of the box different mindset potential theory goes down this season. Maybe Ricks at Slot. New guy from the Raiders maybe? Spitballing Mukuba right now.

44 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nope never, how does it work with a BU QB?

You maintain the rights to a player to reap the benefits of forcing the most desperate team to surrender valuable assets to aquire your contracted player.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO both TD123 and myself had McKee tagged LOOOOOONG before you,but we know it's always about you

I've never seen such an insecure person, always needs acknowledgment on every little thing. Always about himself.

This is about the Eagles... not any of us.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You maintain the rights to a player to reap the benefits of forcing the most desperate team to surrender valuable assets to aquire your contracted player.

This is jumping years ahead of a situation that’s very current instead. I’m sticking to what can Rosie can get out of somebody much much sooner. Was pretty sure you,FL, were in agreement about McKee over Pickett all along. Wanted to give you that credit. Even No Mas believing McKee was only the third stringer and after one PS game flipped to McKee trade value at franchise QB forever unstoppable now…wins out here. He’s consistent at least…consistently wrong. Also consistently gobbles up any and everything Rosie has and will ever do as CAN DO NO WRONG. No Mas being wrong this time though just makes Rosie look all the more amazing. Turning the third stringer QB into unimaginable trade returns for us. It’s a lose..win. Any which way it’s a win for us all…being great for our franchise!

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts has more trade value and we can still win the Lombardi with McKee who is playing for peanuts right now.; He even showed he can perform the tush push

Wow…love the confidence and all…but now you’re stepping beyond NO MAs extreme even. Wish I could say I was surprised or shocked you suggested reading Hurts switching to McKee. No chance…so predictably expected from the guy favoring benching Hurts for Shew. #HurtsHater until the end. Not even SB MVP bringing the parade was going to affect you being so die hard against Hurts.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts has more trade value and we can still win the Lombardi with McKee who is playing for peanuts right now.; He even showed he can perform the tush push

So you actually believe you can retain any credibility after sharing opinions such as this? Maybe it’s just more about #HurtsHate blinding you so utterly. I mean…wish I didn’t expect you’d say something exactly like this…could have practically quoted you yesterday saying this today…it’s just that pathetic and predictable. Carry on..guvna

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nah..think your missing it.

Nothing to miss,Fangio will use him where he is best suited,I guess you're missing it

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO you want to tag a BU QB,which means you pay him bigger,so teams will have to put up more to get him? That is called pricing yourself out of the market

Go back a read my statements ten or twenty times until you follow along. Or just actually read all my actual thoughts for one time…for a change. How many statements have I just made about were reading McKee soon. It’s happening. I don’t want to tag McKee years from now. I want Rosie to shine with the fantastic trade piece he’s working with. A decent GM could make a great sale on McKee right now ..or soon enough. Practically can’t even be screwed up. Let’s be more optimistic though…Rosie is going to work this situation to perfection. QB Factory is going to pay off extending our Eagles dominance into completing our Dynasty run here…extending it on top of all that even.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s a tricky situation. Exactly why I’ve thought it very discussion worthy to dive all into as a subject. Lesser organizations, coaches and GMs the situation could easily be completely screwed up. But we have strength there. GM isn’t going to bend over backwards sally to please a good young player like that. HC…good at be consistent and honest ..while having most players back. The main key: Fangio. Fangio met this challenge head on. Fangio came right out to the press addressing this issue in the middle of nowhere football calendar. He wasn’t required to hold any press conferences or speak to the media one bit anywhere around that time. Takes more than X and O to be a great coach…though he checks that box with authority. Fangio got hold of any mic available to loudly applaud how outstanding DeJean is at Nickle. How he prefers him playing that position. Backs it up with a belief DeJean enjoys very much playing that position.

Ok…so first practice though…DeJean taking reps outside. So he got what he asked for. But…Fangio is one heck of a DC. Think he just might have given DeJean some glimpses. Like ..”believe in you kid…but you need more work on it.” But…how about S?

WHO replaces DeJean at slot CB if he moves to S?. Who do we have right now?

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you actually believe you can retain any credibility after sharing opinions such as this? Maybe it’s just more about #HurtsHate blinding you so utterly. I mean…wish I didn’t expect you’d say something exactly like this…could have practically quoted you yesterday saying this today…it’s just that pathetic and predictable. Carry on..guvna

The last line says it all.... A Brizer wannabee

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Go back a read my statements ten or twenty times until you follow along. Or just actually read all my actual thoughts for one time…for a change. How many statements have I just made about were reading McKee soon. It’s happening. I don’t want to tag McKee years from now. I want Rosie to shine with the fantastic trade piece he’s working with. A decent GM could make a great sale on McKee right now ..or soon enough. Practically can’t even be screwed up. Let’s be more optimistic though…Rosie is going to work this situation to perfection. QB Factory is going to pay off extending our Eagles dominance into completing our Dynasty run here…extending it on top of all that even.

Why should he go back to read ... you don't do that for other people.

35 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

At least DeJean at S switching to Nickle depending on package. Drafted Mukuba to be S. But his weakness is size/duarabilty. Honestly wasn’t a guy I noticed to target day two myself. But…once drafted digging in…like the tape. Or…personally just like his playing style. Another.. but….immediately got hit with doubts to begin TC. Sidney isn’t Fangio’s guy either…also durability question marks. McCollum serviceable.

So the curve ball is what if Fangio switches DeJean full time to S this season? Could argue it’s the big team need along with he’s the best option to fill that role. While Mukuba maybe doesn’t work at S afterall right from the jump..maybe never.

What position could you place a smaller DB that can cover and loves to hit and tackle? Is everybodies answer Slot?

DeJean at S and Mukuba at Slot this season. I know it wasn’t the plan…but seems to make a ton of sense for me. Guess that’s my out of the box different mindset potential theory goes down this season. Maybe Ricks at Slot. New guy from the Raiders maybe? Spitballing Mukuba right now.

SO you want to deny "the big money" to Makuba instead?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Go back a read my statements ten or twenty times until you follow along. Or just actually read all my actual thoughts for one time…for a change. How many statements have I just made about were reading McKee soon. It’s happening. I don’t want to tag McKee years from now. I want Rosie to shine with the fantastic trade piece he’s working with. A decent GM could make a great sale on McKee right now ..or soon enough. Practically can’t even be screwed up. Let’s be more optimistic though…Rosie is going to work this situation to perfection. QB Factory is going to pay off extending our Eagles dominance into completing our Dynasty run here…extending it on top of all that even.

You said I should know how tagging a BU QB works. I do not,please educate me

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie got us there

I don’t want to discredit him. But…too simpleton thinking. Took much more than just Rosie. If we are going to credit one man the most? I’ll give it to Lurie first. But really just embarrassing you type such thoughts. At least we all can know where your opinions are coming from.

I prefer to go for a dynasty run... to become a dynasty you need that 2nd championship to start.... having a quality backup cheap QB is a great tool to win a championship. Also a great tool for sustained success in managing the salary cap.

The way the picks were flipped for Pickett and also getting another QB with an extended team control for another extra year.... works great as McKee develops into a good quality backup with 2 more years of team control. Beautiful QB factory of drafting guys and developing them at minimum $$$. Great QB factory. And then if it results into a comp pick, great bonus.

The factory of being able to draft and not having to go spend money.... a beautiful thing.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How many statements have I just made

LMAO TD123 and I have been singing McKees praises well before he was even a thought for you. Stop with the I. me, my BS. Now suddenly you are onboard, but it was all about you thinking it was your thought? Please