22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Eventually he already is

I believe in his potential…..leave it at that.

22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

May be why Howie got the Raiders guy in here. Someone told him(see Fangio) we needed a better BU CB. Another bad game and someone could be out on the street. I said in game that Ricls got beat like a stepchild and that the coverage was too soft. Getting beat by Chase isn't a one of,he makes many look bad,but lord Ricks looked like he was too outclassed to be in the NFL. Patullo looked more than competent at his job and had McKee lighting it up

Ricks is puzzling. Some moments he looks like he has got what it takes. Others he looks way in over his head. Started to lose confidence in him now though. Inconsistency just might define his game.

22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

May be why Howie got the Raiders guy in here. Someone told him(see Fangio) we needed a better BU CB. Another bad game and someone could be out on the street. I said in game that Ricls got beat like a stepchild and that the coverage was too soft. Getting beat by Chase isn't a one of,he makes many look bad,but lord Ricks looked like he was too outclassed to be in the NFL. Patullo looked more than competent at his job and had McKee lighting it up

Let’s not go overboard on Patullo versus a bad D playing vanilla cupcake PS D. But…was a key game to get under his belt for the experience and to just do the whole job for the first time.

22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

My boy McKee looked tremendous. My boy ASmith is not out of the conversation yet. My boy MJ remains to be seen. SO as my friend Meatloaf said "2 outta 3 ain't bad"

Ainias didn’t suck. Kind of shocking in a good way. Let’s see if he can put two games together. I had buried him…but might just have been premature. Be so happy for me to be wrong.

19 hours ago, mattwill said:

We don’t know the whole story regarding that trade with the Raiders. It has been speculated that it was the Raiders general manager who contacted Howie knowing that Howie had an extra defensive tackles, and that Pete Carrroll did not like Jacori. In that scenario the Raiders would be trading a player that they didn’t value for a player they did value. if that’s the case then Howie did it right by listening and the trade was made.

Of course it’s always possible that he was the one who initiated the conversation

Believe it was on both sides. Rumor is Adoree was Rosie guy and not Fangio. Carroll and Jacori was sounding like he was on the roster bubble. Raiders kicking their big injured expensive DT left a big need for them. Pretty likely Jacori was Fangio getting his guy instead of trusted Rosie guy in Adoree. Main takeaway most likely is Ringo crapped the bed on his big chance this season. Thought he had the juice….measurables are great…but height, speed….nothing trumps football player.

19 hours ago, mattwill said:

@cunninghamtheman what are your thoughts about the Eagles Offense last night?

Not going overboard. But was a good PS one. Calcattarra drop actually one of the biggest moments. Very disappointing. Less confident we can rely on him.

47 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What is "going overboard" in your opinion? We had our 2's playing and they looked damn good?

That was NFL game simulation D really at all. Patullo checked off the boxes needed.

33 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't. Remember Foles winning the SB? Maybe after we hoist the Lombardi,not before

You passing on two second rounders?

53 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I like the kid. So believe in him getting there. We’ll see how long it takes him. NFL big boys….no shame in it taking anybody a year or two to build up to contend with grown men professionals.

Fair enough. Comparing Booker and Robinson is challenging. Booker is probably at or near his ceiling, and has NFL experience. So for 2025 we know what to expect from him. Robinson because of his six years at Nebraska is definitely not close to his floor, but as you correctly point out transitioning from college to NFL USA process, one that for Milton Williams took several years. So Booker has a higher floor, but probably a lower ceiling.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How can a couple of teams not come making offers we can’t refuse on McKee? We need a good backup. So what’s the price where you give him up?

For me it is nothing less than a Round One pick.

Ricks had a strong practice

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Fair enough. Comparing Booker and Robinson is challenging. Booker is probably at or near his ceiling, and has NFL experience. So for 2025 we know what to expect from him. Robinson because of his six years at Nebraska is definitely not close to his floor, but as you correctly point out transitioning from college to NFL USA process, one that for Milton Williams took several years. So Booker has a higher floor, but probably a lower ceiling.

Really different players and positions to be honest. Booker more Nose and short yardage. Ty possibly DE, DT.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Dillon looked good also. Is this the best RB room our Eagles have ever put together?

Top to bottom, yes. Westbrook, Staley, Buckhalter may have been a better top 3, but we never have been 5 deep like now. I am very impressed with both Powell and Johnson. Hope they both make it to the Practice Squad.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I believe in his potential…..leave it at that.

Fair enough.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ricks is puzzling. Some moments he looks like he has got what it takes. Others he looks way in over his head. Started to lose confidence in him now though. Inconsistency just might define his game.

Good assessment. That is where I am as well.

10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

For me it is nothing less than a Round One pick.

As much as Rosie nailed so much recently…think he screwed up the Pickett situation. It was a mistake to have Pickett locked in as backup over McKee last season. Didn’t cost us though. But should have kept Pickett this season because McKee is going to be traded. Just not seeing a single team making the move to grab McKee. Felt like Saints should have…and possibly still would. But now? It’s much more than just Moore seeing it.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Let’s not go overboard on Patullo versus a bad D playing vanilla cupcake PS D. But…was a key game to get under his belt for the experience and to just do the whole job for the first time.

I agree with both your caveats, but what we saw was encouraging. The RBs going aggressively out into pas patterns and the quick releases were not something I expected.

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Is sacrificing a Lombardi worth 2 round 2 picks. With the picks we already have?

I get it. But…with that extra ammo can we nail down a longer dynasty dominant push?

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I agree with both your caveats, but what we saw was encouraging. The RBs going aggressively out into pas patterns and the quick releases were not something I expected.

That was something I noticed attempted early last season but then abandoned. Both backup RBs just so good receiving it has to be featured. Having two also gives assurance that weapon can be relied on every week.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ainias didn’t suck. Kind of shocking in a good way. Let’s see if he can put two games together. I had buried him…but might just have been premature. Be so happy for me to be wrong.

From a roster management perspective it would be nice to have a return specialist who (like DeJean) can productively play a position.

26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I get it. But…with that extra ammo can we nail down a longer dynasty dominant push?

IDK we will have to cut guys with alot of potential. What is the point of adding even more guys you will have to cut with potential? It's not like we're starved for draft picks

25 minutes ago, mattwill said:

From a roster management perspective it would be nice to have a return specialist who (like DeJean) can productively play a position.

I feel ASmith or Coop can do that. They really put pressure on Avery(Williams),who really can't do alot other than a ST returner. If those WR's have another nice game it will he hard to keep Avery IMO

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Believe it was on both sides. Rumor is Adoree was Rosie guy and not Fangio. Carroll and Jacori was sounding like he was on the roster bubble. Raiders kicking their big injured expensive DT left a big need for them. Pretty likely Jacori was Fangio getting his guy instead of trusted Rosie guy in Adoree. Main takeaway most likely is Ringo crapped the bed on his big chance this season. Thought he had the juice….measurables are great…but height, speed….nothing trumps football player.

All good points. Some of it we will never know the whole story.

Regarding Ringo some folks are saying that film review of him will show one atrocious play, but (perhaps) the rest of his plays will not show horribly in the film review.

It is clearly a work in process.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So who is DT4 if not Ty?

Hall and Young are in the conversation. Sykes looked good Thursday, but only Practice Squad good.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You passing on two second rounders?

Depends on where in Round 2 those picks are.