Just now, EaglesTD123 said:

LOL that be one of the bright spots

Yeah…that’s all the bright spots I have for last seasons D.versus the Chiefs none-the-less

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah…that’s all the bright spots I have for last seasons D.versus the Chiefs none-the-less

D vs Tampa first game....D vs Miami... D vs Seattle for 59 minutes. 

O also lit up Washington both times...and Buffalo.  

Elliot probably had the best season ever for a kicker that wasn't 1st team all pro!

21 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Last year I did believe to see NFL Ds understanding much better how to defend RPOs. So think the Ds have finally caught up. Which effects us pretty big time. Already did last season.

Thus my focus on Hurts as a passer.  If teams caught up to the RPO...regardless if we call it gimmick,  high school , college or amateur style...  it doesn't matter how we feel about it.   

All that matters is can we be successful without relying on it so much.  A lot of that falls on the QB.  Regardless of  combo TDs, intangibles,  Superbowl stats...etc.

Going forward, can Hurts succeed of the RPO gets figured out?

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rushing and passing averages on RPOs were down in 2023. To back up my eyes with actual stats.

Yes...the stats backed up a lot of people's eyes for sure 

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

and their pass average from 7.19 to 4.53

Here's the issue right here

17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hard for any team to win with a one legged QB. He’s one tough dude!

Agree...Mahomes was a tough dude playing on one leg in the SB 

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But there was this factor also: 

It should be pointed out that all offensive production is down this season, not just RPOs. Scoring is down (from 21.9 points per game to 21.6). Yards per game are down (from 342.1 to 330.1). Yards per play are down (from 5.4 to 5.2). Rushing yards per game are down (from 121.6 to 109.8).

 

Rule changes bud. Bubble ball will keep bringing those down

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's the issue right here

I mean...the wildcat...the RPO...those things have a shelf life to where they get figured out and you can't use them constantly.   

But what doesn't change = your QB seeing the field and making the throws.

 

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I mean...the wildcat...the RPO...those things have a shelf life to where they get figured out and you can't use them constantly.   

But what doesn't change = your QB seeing the field and making the throws.

 

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We're haters because we see it

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

D vs Tampa first game....D vs Miami... D vs Seattle for 59 minutes. 

O also lit up Washington both times...and Buffalo.  

Seattles O wasn’t any danger. But yes on the Miami game. That was the other moment Desai shined. Completely agree on the very unexpected way Desai had the D step up there.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We're haters because we see it

Any idiot can see our QB's best trait is his running ability.   Whether speed, being tough to bring down or escaping.    Without that aspect, it's a concern.  

Do we have faith...doesn't matter.  What matters is if he performs...that's it.  If the league will limit his running...then improve all facets of the passing game.

If they take away the simple RPO reads...then learn how to mentally play NFL QB.

Ham very astutely pointed out teams figuring out the RPO league wide.   Time to evolve then... we haven't seen this yet from our QB.  But now we have a new OC...let's see how this non RPO style works

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seattles O wasn’t any danger. But yes on the Miami game. That was the other moment Desai shined. Completely agree on the very unexpected way Desai had the D step up there.

Idk about giving Desai so much credit... players were at home on a Monday night ..first night in green. Or was it Sunday night....either way.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Agree...Mahomes was a tough dude playing on one leg in the SB 

That was clearly overblown. He ran very well for crucial conversions in that game. Had no problems planting to throw or anything. But Mahomes is a tough competitor for sure.

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Rule changes bud. Bubble ball will keep bringing those down

I’d think the opposite

Brought Kool-Aid in for a visit - don't want him.

A lot of what I don't like - quick outs to Goedert, short stuff on 3rd and 7 - is going to go away with Kellen Moore. Read where he doesn't care what level of football plays come from as long as they work. Also styless - just plays with a huge playbook. Going to be rough on the new C. Should be an increase in mid and long ball. Sounds good but as long as I've been around, the further down the field, the lower the success. Would like another heavy RB, expect to see more motion and outside zone. Going to be quite a change from the vanilla we've been seeing.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That was clearly overblown. He ran very well for crucial conversions in that game. Had no problems planting to throw or anything. But Mahomes is a tough competitor for sure.

I think these guys are such elite athletes... Mahomes ,Hurts etc.. they can still move when hurt a little.   

I remember as a teenager seeing Randall live.... casually rolling to his right, dude ate up space so fast.  Charlie Garner looked like he was shot out of a cannon!  

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Brought Kool-Aid in for a visit - don't want him.

A lot of what I don't like - quick outs to Goedert, short stuff on 3rd and 7 - is going to go away with Kellen Moore. Read where he doesn't care what level of football plays come from as long as they work. Also styless - just plays with a huge playbook. Going to be rough on the new C. Should be an increase in mid and long ball. Sounds good but as long as I've been around, the further down the field, the lower the success. Would like another heavy RB, expect to see more motion and outside zone. Going to be quite a change from the vanilla we've been seeing.

The heavy RBs are a rare breed today.

Smith's cap hits combined....2024-2028 ... 5 years...are combined total of just over $61 mil. 

Can't wait to see Lamb's

Wow! I really miss watching Charlie Garner

Read where Kellen sometimes puts an OL in for where a FB would be - I'm liking this guy!

5 hours ago, mjkline1958 said:

Brought Kool-Aid in for a visit - don't want him.

A lot of what I don't like - quick outs to Goedert, short stuff on 3rd and 7 - is going to go away with Kellen Moore. Read where he doesn't care what level of football plays come from as long as they work. Also styless - just plays with a huge playbook. Going to be rough on the new C. Should be an increase in mid and long ball. Sounds good but as long as I've been around, the further down the field, the lower the success. Would like another heavy RB, expect to see more motion and outside zone. Going to be quite a change from the vanilla we've been seeing.

Why do we need another heavy RB? Bark should like it here, he can play 2 downs instead of 3 sometimes. Gains is fine as a COP back. I also expect some wrinkles using a WR in the backfield(like Hill used to do in KC)

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

Read where Kellen sometimes puts an OL in for where a FB would be - I'm liking this guy!

Mailata on a slant 🤣(sorry, but I'm not getting in his way)

https://www.espnanalytics.com/draft-predictor/  Fun to play around with

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