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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

AKA people person. See it yet? It has to be there. It's assembling the correct people to do the jobs you require. They can be "cheap" rookies as we see with Q, who WILL be paid later. We have no locker room drama because all the players play as one,that is the succession plan besides the talent and coaching/devlopment aspect

Those are all micro level actions and activities, but they have minimal effect on the successful financial gain of the owners.

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1 minute ago, mattwill said:

But in the NFL … where the owners share the league revenue, how does the satisfaction of lifting the Lombardi affect that owner’s share of the pot?

And think the next step..... the owners share the revenue.... so always get the same share.... but only one team wins. If all 32 teams had the same revenue... but one has the Lombardi... which one is the most successful one?

Just now, mattwill said:

Those are all micro level actions and activities, but they have minimal effect on the successful financial gain of the owners.

So one owner can focus on winning because the other owners can just make the league money

27 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

We swapped DTR for Pickett and received better draft compensation. Plus DTR is under team control for an extra year. We don't know that any of them are not JAG. You are assuming that.

If they cut DT-R that team control evaporates.

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2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

But in the NFL … where the owners share the league revenue, how does the satisfaction of lifting the Lombardi affect that owner’s share of the pot?

More SB champ jerseys sold for big money. more SB hats, more fans(because people love WINNERS),more fans = more advertisers and you can add to what they pay because the network has more viewers. it's all synched

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2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Those are all micro level actions and activities, but they have minimal effect on the successful financial gain of the owners.

Welp,then there is no use trying to explain it to you

27 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

More left field than Ham

Only left field if you believe the NFL is still in the sports business.

I was born in 1972... I do not remember the Cowboys not having a Mexican audience.... that's because it was 1969. But Jerry coined " America's team" ???? I don't remember it ever not being called America's team! Jerry bought the Cowboys when I was in high school. Jerry had nothing to do with anything,.. just benefits from what was built.

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2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

If they cut DT-R that team control evaporates.

But they then have control of McCord for 4 years

27 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Because he owns the most popular franchise in the most popular league ... nothing to do with anything he specifically did

He CREATED the most popular franchise. The Cowboys were like the Libertarian Party or the Green Party when he bought them. Marginal.

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

If they cut DT-R that team control evaporates.

Correct.... if we cut anyone who isn't worthy of making the team, the team control evaporates. But why would having team control on anyone outside of your team matter?

Just now, mattwill said:

He CREATED the most popular franchise. The Cowboys were like the Libertarian Party or the Green Party when he bought them. Marginal.

Dude... put down the shovel. Go do some research. you are completetely wrong on everything you just brought up. The 70s were not a time of awareness for you

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm looking at "success" realistically. Sure, I am assigning value to what you can't see, but the players feel it. They know we have their backs, there is no drama, you can play here comfortably. I have no clue what "monetary value" that carries,but without it,you don't hoist the trophy

I don’t disagree with a thing you have said. They are crucial to the effective inner workings of the sports operation. But they have little effect on the top line realized by the owners.

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Matt is not a football fan... we found that out last night. Just the business side ... but he likes the Eagles just isn't a football fan.

I am an Eagles fan. Football doesn’t have "handles” you can grab on to. It is like the gladiatorial contests in the Roman Coliseum, or the forays in No Man’s Land in WWI, or the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza.

33 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The fans don't care what Jerry's bank balance is,not at ALL

And from a direct revenue perspective the fans really don’t matter. The networks and advertisers matter.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

I am an Eagles fan. Football doesn’t have "handles” you can grab on to. It is like the gladiatorial contests in the Roman Coliseum, or the forays in No Man’s Land in WWI, or the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza.

As we know every time you make an incorrect post about the Cowboys and after admitting not to follow the league..... that's why its ironic you claim Banner and Jones as innovators???

33 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Who is the most successful QB in football? Is it Dak since he gets the most money?

Some would say "Yes.” I’m not one of them, but I understand the validity of that argument.

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1 minute ago, mattwill said:

The networks and advertisers matter.

And without the millions and millions of fan base the advertisers would go elsewhere

34 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Great slogans, no trophies recently. Call them whatever name you choose, we hold the trophy, they keep dreaming about a come back

Their advertisers don’t have that dream. Their dreams are about sales of their products/services.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

And from a direct revenue perspective the fans really don’t matter. The networks and advertisers matter.

Yes... back in 1969 it mattered that Dallas went into the Mexican market... and became America's team in the 1970s Absolutely correct into why Jerry purchased the highly valued franchise at the time

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20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Steelers just made him a backup.. he forced his way out…to be a backup here….not even to be a starter here. It just happened last season here. Shouldn’t be anything a single fan here should argue against can’t/won’t/doesn’t happen.

LMAO he didn't force CRAP. He was a temp QB and we all knew it. Possibly T-R is also a temp we shall see who wins the QB 3 battle. The Squeelers gave him a chance and he couldn't cut it,so they cut bait,he forced ZIP. He didn;t do squat here either so we cut bait too

31 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Really??? You have done research on this???? I'd liek to see your sources that there has never been a single NFL employee that has been under a GM that wasn't office related? I very highly doubt it.

I think as a bean counter yourself... Banner is like your idol. I highly doubt that you had knowledge of the Eagles front office prior to having an orgasm hearing Joe Banner talk. and seeing a businessman try to run a football team.

But again.... YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS, YET DONT FOLLOW THE NFL??????

Come on Matt.... not looking really good there. you know all the details of 32 front offices... yet didn't know about Tom Brady and the deflated footballs? You don't know how many SBs Montana has... but you know all 32 front offices? you expect anyone to believe this? Really?

First, I’m not a bean counter … marketing, sales and customer service. But Wharton teaches all its students to "think like an income statement” and remember that "net income is bullsheet, and cash is king.”

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

He CREATED the most popular franchise. The Cowboys were like the Libertarian Party or the Green Party when he bought them. Marginal.

Matt... go make this post on other pages on this Eagles website.... EMB or whatever.... see what response you get. Throw in that Jerry coined " America's team and went into the Mexican market" See the response you get.

Just now, mattwill said:

First, I’m not a bean counter … marketing, sales and customer service. But Wharton teaches all its students to "think like an income statement” and remember that "net income is bullsheet, and cash is king.”

And this backs up your statement about Banner ...how?

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Past the left field and now you are moving into the upper deck. WTF does this post have to do with anything? The NFL is the NFL... you seem to think everything is the same... the NFL is very unique. The Cowboys don't have any comparison the the Rangers, Stars, Mavericks, Spurs, Astros or any other Texas team. The Cowboys are well beyond that... have been for decades, prior to Jones owning the team.

Not prior to Jones. They were the Good Old Boy team prior to Jones. You need to do some historical research.

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