2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Who is the most successful person in the nFL, and why is he so successful?

Depends what you measure success as?

As a fan of the Eagles... what would you like to see? What is your success?

7 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Was Brady any less the face of the Patriots franchise after he was suspended rather than before he was suspended?

I suspect that Lurie himself doesn’t do data analysis. He clearly hires people who are better than he is at what they do, and then empowers them to do great things.

Yes, the business man Lurie... not the guy who invented electricity or Microsoft office... the guy who runs the ship and looks at all the analysis etc. That guy, has done well.

Brady was the face of the franchise while he was playing in games. Before and after the suspension... not during the suspension nor during the time he was injured.

23 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Depends what you measure success as?

As a fan of the Eagles... what would you like to see? What is your success?

The answer is very simple, and unequivocal, Jerry Jones. There is no "depends"about it. And he is the most successful because he has always been a step (or two) ahead of anyone else.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

There are three CBs … two boundary and one nickel. Q and Coop only cover two of those. The third CB is definitely on the list.

Yup and I don’t see it high on the list still we will likely just plug in play the last spot Ringo, raiders DB, vet like adoree, late round guy etc.

I don’t see us spending high on another DB so agree to disagree on this one

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

Steen is in Year 3 of a 4 year contract. Having a succession plan for the expiration of his rookie contract is prudent, proactive planning. So RG is definitely on the list

Or you look to extend Steen there is a realm where Steen is just a good OL that doesn’t break the bank…. Not every OL needs to be all pro. I’d say getting a RT replacement for Lane is way higher on the priority list than drafting a RG.

This one is more likely then a DB getting drafted high just because we value the lines but still see a G as unlikely in the next year or two

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

Q was unproven. DeJean was unproven. Baun was unproven. Becton was unproven.

Some succeed, some don't. Can't really make a blanket statement that they all succeed. McWilliams is not a round 1 talent

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

And given Ham’s well established credibility issues with his posts having no citation references, why do you give any credence to "According to Ham …”. All it is is one man’s opinion.

Did you miss the laughing faces?

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

What makes you say that Blank is any different than Sweat and/or Williams? With that said, Mukuba is a Free Safety like Blank. But we don’t have a succession plan for Strong Safety in place. So Safety is definitely on the list.

Pretty sure Vic like the DC before him doesn’t really label his S preferring them to be interchangeable….And if we opt to let Blank go then maybe this changes I think we retain him. But then you have the S we just drafted, Brown who the coaches seem high on and being given an opportunity to start.

And Mukuba is listed as the primary backup to Brown not Blank….

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

We have that problem now, with four players and only three QB slots on the 53-man roster.

McCord is the "new model" T-R has some experience(not alot) but was rejected by a QB needy team(who has 6 and is still a QB needy team lol). We should see both in the upcoming pre game. One may go on the PS or just be cut

6 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

He is referring to Gardener Minshew.

Shew would have a tough time with this one

4 hours ago, mattwill said:

The answer is very simple, and unequivocal, Jerry Jones. There is no "depends"about it. And he is the most successful because he has always been a step (or two) ahead of anyone else.

I disagree. Jones is not a people person. He overpays players trying to buy a SB. Seems he has "contract issues" annually with someone. Makes for lots of headlines. Right now that issue is Parsons What worked in the 70's is not as valid, and Jones is stuck in the 70's. Lurie and Howie have evolved as the game has changed. Jones, not so much

48 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Or you look to extend Steen there is a realm where Steen is just a good OL that doesn’t break the bank…. Not every OL needs to be all pro. I’d say getting a RT replacement for Lane is way higher on the priority list than drafting a RG.

This one is more likely then a DB getting drafted high just because we value the lines but still see a G as unlikely in the next year or two

Howie finds value taking C's and making the G's. Alot of times those C's fall in drafts because they are C's, so I always peruse the C group and see if any are conversion prospects. I believe Dickerson was a C?. Maybe we look at that and make Cam the RG? Just a possible thought I'm tossing out. Need to see if Steen has what it takes. It's his job to lose

55 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Howie finds value taking C's and making the G's. Alot of times those C's fall in drafts because they are C's, so I always peruse the C group and see if any are conversion prospects. I believe Dickerson was a C?. Maybe we look at that and make Cam the RG? Just a possible thought I'm tossing out. Need to see if Steen has what it takes. It's his job to lose

We also already have couple of young guys we have drafted the last two drafts at the G/C spots the kid from Michigan… pretty sure we drafted a C from NC state, G from Boston College this year.

Definitely have some young guys for Stout to work with on the interior

I have a short list of positions I think the FO wants to be able to draft high over the next couple years.

Edge, DT, TE, OT, WR these are probably the top 5 in my opinion.

Just because I’m saying these are the most likely is not me saying we won’t draft a CB or a G or any other position if the value is right.

Think our FO has done a pretty fantastic job at not forcing things in the draft we have had some gems come in day 1 and have success(Q) but we have also had some guys have to wait a bit before really getting there opportunity(Nolan Smith)

I'm seeing Toth is looking good at LG

Not Dickerson good, but good

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I disagree. Jones is not a people person. He overpays players trying to buy a SB. Seems he has "contract issues" annually with someone. Makes for lots of headlines. Right now that issue is Parsons What worked in the 70's is not as valid, and Jones is stuck in the 70's. Lurie and Howie have evolved as the game has changed. Jones, not so much

Matt is all about the business...not football. He isn't a football fan. Jerry has the franchise with the highest value....winning is irrelevant to Matt.. all about $$$

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I disagree. Jones is not a people person. He overpays players trying to buy a SB. Seems he has "contract issues" annually with someone. Makes for lots of headlines. Right now that issue is Parsons What worked in the 70's is not as valid, and Jones is stuck in the 70's. Lurie and Howie have evolved as the game has changed. Jones, not so much

I'm curious as to how Matt perceives Jerry Jones to be a step or two ahead of everyone else? Curious to hear how Matt thinks Joe Banner was an innovator and what guys are doing now specifically because of him?

I think clearly Lurie saw what Joe Banner lacked and what influence Howie had and made the switch. Just because someone worked under another person doesn't mean the next guy didn't have better ideas or methods. Very often working under someone you can see how NOT to do things. IMO it's clear Howie was head and shoulders above Banner. Even listening to Banner recently discussing contracts etc, he seems stuck behind the times. No wonder he couldn't build a championship roster when your hear him speak. Mind always on " value" and " escaping contracts" not understanding how to complete a puzzle, create stability and culture and that people are not just assets. Football is not a clothing store.

I know a lot of you and maybe none of you are local.... but " Hoagie gate" here in Philly was a classic with Banner's quote.... " God forbid someone brings a hoagie into the stadium" That whole issue just showed how clueless he is. Howie gets it. He gets the city, the fanbase, the idea of culture. The intangible stuff that Banner just completely whiffed.

Basically.... the difference between Banner and Howie... Banner refused to admit any mistakes or different ways to look at things.... Howie we can see change philosophy and correct mistakes. The smartest guy in the room is often the guy who understands he doesn't know everything. Huge obstacle for guys like Joe Banner. WE have a guy on here that's very similar.

Listening to Howie talk about his team and football makes you want to get a job for the Eagles.... Joe Banner was great to listen to if you were having trouble sleeping. But, I can maybe understand why that would be something enticing to accountants?

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

I'm seeing Toth is looking good at LG

Not Dickerson good, but good

Apparently we ran the ball well but struggled in pass protection or one on ones yesterday... our OL vs Cleveland DL. That seems to be the narrative from yesterday.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I have a short list of positions I think the FO wants to be able to draft high over the next couple years.

Edge, DT, TE, OT, WR these are probably the top 5 in my opinion.

Just because I’m saying these are the most likely is not me saying we won’t draft a CB or a G or any other position if the value is right.

Think our FO has done a pretty fantastic job at not forcing things in the draft we have had some gems come in day 1 and have success(Q) but we have also had some guys have to wait a bit before really getting there opportunity(Nolan Smith)

I'm going to say... the last couple of drafts have been refreshing. It doesn't seem the Eagles were stuck on position... just looking at the best players. So I'm not even going to speculate on position so much as to think they continue to draft top players. Their first two picks were LB and S ... 2 CBs last year... so who knows? I think everyone is or could be correct in their assumptions. And we all know that there are always players that develop unexpectedly... so you are absolutely correct that one or more of these young OL could step up. Who knows.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Some succeed, some don't. Can't really make a blanket statement that they all succeed. McWilliams is not a round 1 talent

DeJean was Round 2. Baun was Round 3 and had four undistinguished NFL years. So not being from Round 1 isn’t "blanketable” either. All of that uncertainty is a huge part of the interest/fun of the NFL. We simply need to ride the roller coaster … and enjoy it.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Did you miss the laughing faces?

Yes I missed them.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

McCord is the "new model" T-R has some experience(not alot) but was rejected by a QB needy team(who has 6 and is still a QB needy team lol). We should see both in the upcoming pre game. One may go on the PS or just be cut

Agreed. How would you feel if McCord is the one who is cut?

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I disagree. Jones is not a people person. He overpays players trying to buy a SB. Seems he has "contract issues" annually with someone. Makes for lots of headlines. Right now that issue is Parsons What worked in the 70's is not as valid, and Jones is stuck in the 70's. Lurie and Howie have evolved as the game has changed. Jones, not so much

Whether or not a person is a good people person can’t be quantified/measured, and even more importantly it can’t be deposited in the bank, which is the bottom-line measurement of the success of a business/businessman. Jerry has deposited more money in his bank accounts than any other owner, and it isn’t even close. And as crazy as his actions are, he understands how to entertain his audiences and keep them filling his coffers.